http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: CCE Top Up Annual Mileage Ride en Tue, 19 May 2026 19:35:45 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298559 Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:22:47 +0000 gembo 298559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@hankchief, mostly I think it tastes like beechams powders, (after the dealers have cut it with whatever they cut it with, your friend might take his cut and replace it with beechams powders, your dancing does not then improve but your headache goes away) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298552 Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:17:18 +0000 HankChief 298552@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Greenroofer - the upload delay was caused by me accidentally stopping my garmin in Blackford, so it required a little bit of IT first aid to stitch the 2 halves together.</p> <p>I get what your post is saying - I just didn't think that just a bowl of soup and a flapjack was anywhere near enough carbs going into the system for 8 hours of cycling. It will be interesting to to try out a new lower food option on future rides...</p> <p>Paddyirish - I was a bit slower than previous long rides, but it was my first long ride in 6 months and I wasn't feeling great so wasn't that surprising. My heart rate was in usual ranges. The interesting point was that neither speed nor heart rate particularly changed towards the end of the ride. Maybe as you say, I was just inside my cruising effort.</p> <p>Gembo - I have bonked in the past - Not often as I get fairly clear signals that it is coming.<br /> Not aware of having taken any amphetamine sulphate - what does it taste like? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298549 Wed, 02 Jan 2019 10:20:05 +0000 Greenroofer 298549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@HC - ah, that explains why it took so long for your ride to appear on Strava. I was beginning to think you'd blocked me.</p> <p>I think <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18857#post-283588">this post</a> from earlier in the year is relevant to your situation.</p> <p>There's a good GCN video on YouTube that explains that your digestive system is a conveyor belt that slows down when you are working hard. If you put too much in at the top when the system is running slowly, it backs-up and makes you feel ill. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298547 Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:44:49 +0000 paddyirish 298547@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@HC Looking at your average speed, it isn't your usual endurance speed - to be expected in winter. You may be travelling at 80% of maximum speed and below a carb threshold for you? You can probably keep going at that effort level and burn fat (not that you have much). </p> <p>I have a lot more blubber than you, and as a rough rule of thumb, provided I have a decent breakfast beforehand, I can do 100km on an electrolyte and an energy bar if I don't push above 20km/h - I'm in a comfort zone and don't seem to need much food. I've managed myself around 200s at 22-23 by following a sensible little and often strategy with one bigger stop, but can't maintain 25 more than a couple of hours and need to eat more during that. Speed is only 20-25% more but the effort is changing from cruising to burst and calorie intake goes up accordingly. For some reason cruising is much more appealing, but maybe to improve I have to put in more hard sessions. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298545 Wed, 02 Jan 2019 09:22:50 +0000 gembo 298545@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@hankchief</p> <p>Maybe you don't bonk?</p> <p>All that grub you have been shovelling in over thousands of mikes not necessary?</p> <p>Did you possibly unknowingly partake of a large amount of amphetamine sulphate?</p> <p>Unlikely but fausto coppi was. A big fan, Aldo Eddy Merckx</p> <p>Do you have a virus now? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298544 Tue, 01 Jan 2019 23:31:26 +0000 HankChief 298544@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Quite a lot of carols kept me going yesterday.</p> <p>I should confess it wasn't all plain sailing yesterday and it did leave me a bit broken last night - so much so that two CCE members were taking bets as to whether I would see the bells or not. I did (just) but my chat was a bit subdued for the latter parts of 2018.</p> <p>Having just read the excellent book on Griffith Pugh, (the doctor who did lots of physiology experiments on the Everest climbers to help them improve their performance at altitude) I will share the details as it makes no sense to me.</p> <p>It's a question of lack of bonking...</p> <p>I didn't sleep well and the 5am alarm meant I was decidedly groggy in the morning and only managed 1 bowl of porridge rather than my usual 2 bowls. </p> <p>On most rides I have to eat <strong>a lot</strong>, so I need to eat proper meals regularly but I'll also top it up with gels, malt loaf, flapjacks etc. as I go along. I had my bags filled with goodies all set, but I just couldn't face it - I was struggling to even drink my Electrolyte drink, without nearly throwing up.</p> <p>My legs felt okay and seemed to be working, so I ploughed on with dreams of a proper breakfast at Crianlarich, but nothing was open. After 50miles I stopped at Lochearnhead, where I had a small soup (&amp; some decent cycling chat with the barman). The next few miles were spent wondering if that would stay down. It did, but I didn't feel like anything else.</p> <p>Another 30miles later, I've still not touched any of my snacks but I find myself on the pavement next to the A9 and a service station up ahead, so I decide to stop and try to eat. I buy a flapjack and a ribena, which I manage to keep down and set off again.</p> <p>I then start to wonder why I'm not bonking. Yes, I've indulged in a ample share of mince pies and other festive goodies, but this seems bizarre compared to my usual intake on a similar ride. I carry on, whilst on the look out for the tell tell signs of bonking, but none came. </p> <p>My legs didn't feel particularly tired and whilst the wind caused some hard work, it wasn't especially worse than the rest of the ride. I even got some PBs going through Dumfermline although that may be due to the adrenaline of dicing with traffic.</p> <p>So just what does it take to bonk... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298543 Tue, 01 Jan 2019 22:59:54 +0000 sallyhinch 298543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You want the Irish blessing one</p> <p>"May the road rise to greet you<br /> May the wind be ever at your back ..." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298526 Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:52:33 +0000 dessert rat 298526@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>when solo riding for any distance my companion almost always turns to hymns.</p> <p>'<em>we plough the fields and scatter</em>' and '<em>all thing bright and beautiful</em>' etc.... </p> <p>No clue why, was dragged to church until I was 15 but rarely been inside one since.</p> <p>also - sterling effort HC. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=5#post-298524 Tue, 01 Jan 2019 09:03:11 +0000 steveo 298524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My companion sings less and less of the song depending how steep the hill is down to repeating single bars. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298522 Tue, 01 Jan 2019 00:47:32 +0000 I were right about that saddle 298522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have ridden alone for days at a time and that is all I have to say about that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298520 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 23:39:01 +0000 acsimpson 298520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sally, your companion sounds stranglers like mine. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298517 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 19:53:07 +0000 sallyhinch 298517@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I always find when I ride by myself that the 'chat' consists of my companion repeating the two-thirds of one verse and a line from the chorus of whatever song has got stuck in her head for the day. I hope the quality of your own internal conversation was better. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298516 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 19:44:01 +0000 HankChief 298516@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Crianlarich, Lochearnhead, Comrie, Braco, Gleneagles/ Glen Devon &amp; Knockhill.</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1079794453026664448?s=19" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1079794453026664448?s=19</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298515 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 19:35:09 +0000 Frenchy 298515@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nice. Which way did you go? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298513 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 18:45:39 +0000 HankChief 298513@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Home safe. 114miles &amp; great chat </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298497 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 13:25:36 +0000 gembo 298497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just spotted Gareth and Roddy from fietsclub Balerno returning maybe going out chatting anyway at slow pace and wearing SUMMER Jerseys and shorts </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298496 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:46:36 +0000 HankChief 298496@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Gembo- my route choice and the wind direction is purely coincidental ;-)</p> <p>Currently in Lochearnhead having an early lunch. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298490 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 10:38:55 +0000 gembo 298490@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@hankchief, wind feels fresh for the blow back </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298486 Mon, 31 Dec 2018 08:23:43 +0000 HankChief 298486@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Impressive figures Amir.</p> <p>Being the only person in my carriage to Helensburgh, the chat is quite subdued... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298471 Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:50:06 +0000 amir 298471@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The chat is better on my tod anyway ;-)</em><br /> A typical audaxer insult :) </p> <p>I've just reached my target of 7152 miles (set in retrospect) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298462 Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:49:05 +0000 HankChief 298462@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Fairy nuff...</p> <p>The chat is better on my tod anyway ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298460 Sun, 30 Dec 2018 09:56:29 +0000 dessert rat 298460@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@HC - think I'm out, have over-cycled in the last 10 days. Need a few days off b4 next year's Strava target chase commences. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298456 Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:29:02 +0000 HankChief 298456@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's a shame Cliff. Hope you are back on your feet/pedals soon.</p> <p>I will contemplate the Darlington jaunt... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298451 Sat, 29 Dec 2018 20:51:39 +0000 themightysimmonite 298451@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sadly I am going to have to give it a miss. Been laid up since the Sunday before Chrimbo when I had to bail on a planned Century.<br /> Suffering with a horrible lurgy that has wiped me out.<br /> Just booked a 200km Audax down in Darlington on 20 Jan. Driving down with Dalgety Dave on the Saturday with the night in a local Premier Inn. Space in car for one extra bike &amp; person..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298447 Sat, 29 Dec 2018 19:15:34 +0000 HankChief 298447@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Whats the plan big man?</p> <p>Looks like a bonnie day for a bike ride...</p> <p>Any other takers? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298052 Wed, 19 Dec 2018 14:41:50 +0000 HankChief 298052@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not cycled there before so all good.</p> <p>Just give us an meeting point/time and I'll be there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-298050 Wed, 19 Dec 2018 14:36:51 +0000 dessert rat 298050@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gala.... ?</p> <p>that's what I will now be planning</p> <p>all welcome </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-297690 Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:34:17 +0000 dessert rat 297690@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>we could just cycle to Gala and back - Borders Railway close if weather is too grim or legs give up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-297683 Fri, 14 Dec 2018 19:56:29 +0000 HankChief 297683@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Drat. All the cycle spaces have gone for both the 29th &amp; 31st...</p> <p>Does anyone have a car that could drop us off in Arrochar at 7am?! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18399&page=4#post-297372 Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:50:43 +0000 HankChief 297372@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Split ticketing might be the cheaper option and would really annoy the train staff if they thought 3 bikes were getting off &amp; on at every station. </p>