http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Warning - potholes en Tue, 19 May 2026 03:24:42 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=5#post-361493 Sat, 18 Jun 2022 08:18:00 +0000 chdot 361493@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-airport-pothole-damaged-british-airways-jet-on-take-off-causing-issues-in-the-air-3736209" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-airport-pothole-damaged-british-airways-jet-on-take-off-causing-issues-in-the-air-3736209</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=5#post-359479 Thu, 07 Apr 2022 16:50:08 +0000 Morningsider 359479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not sure you can actually read anything into Edinburgh specific results here. 2003 people from across the UK were surveyed. Assuming a rough geographic spread of respondents, Edinburgh has about 0.7% of the UK population, that would be around 14 people. </p> <p>Not that I trust the results of an internet survey conducted by an outfit (Mortar Research) which claims to be:</p> <p><blockquote>A meeting of minds between journalists, PRs and market research industry veterans who understand the value of words and numbers working together.</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=5#post-359475 Thu, 07 Apr 2022 16:21:51 +0000 chdot 359475@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-news-motorists-biggest-gripes-revealed-as-drivers-in-capital-take-part-in-new-survey-3644522" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-news-motorists-biggest-gripes-revealed-as-drivers-in-capital-take-part-in-new-survey-3644522</a></p> <p>But of course potholes. </p> <p>‘Reality’ is that roads need properly resurfacing as (before) required. Likely to be cheaper than ad hoc (inadequate) hole filling. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-358967 Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:21:34 +0000 steveo 358967@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That road does look bad.</p> <p><blockquote>Ferrari can't go through here at all,"</blockquote></p> <p>What a shame... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-358966 Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:13:03 +0000 chdot 358966@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Rod Stewart: Video prompts pothole DIY repair warning </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-60727187" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-60727187</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-358961 Mon, 14 Mar 2022 15:31:09 +0000 Morningsider 358961@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So the cost of fixing the road maintenance backlog could be paid for by cancelling the remainder of the A9 dualling project. Road maintenance is usually delivered by small engineering firms, rather than the huge international companies that build new trunk roads, which would help boost the Scottish economy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-358944 Sun, 13 Mar 2022 23:43:50 +0000 chdot 358944@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just a reminder from upthread -</p> <p>“Is there no end to the expenditure on motors? Motors that are getting ever larger, heavier and more road-trashier” </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-358943 Sun, 13 Mar 2022 23:40:26 +0000 chdot 358943@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The cost of fixing potholes on Scotland’s roads is almost £1.7 billion, according to new data, with the City of Edinburgh Council facing a repair backlog worth just over £77 million.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/ps77m-of-taxpayers-money-needed-to-fix-citys-potholes-3609206" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/ps77m-of-taxpayers-money-needed-to-fix-citys-potholes-3609206</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354293 Fri, 03 Sep 2021 16:25:57 +0000 Tulyar 354293@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If only the Duty of Care test (to prevent harm) was more closely linked to the controlling entity for the premises, when the premises are the public highway?</p> <p>If this was a factory, railway station or shop, and a non employee was harmed by a hole in the floor, there could be a prosecution for a crimnal offence (per HSAWA 1974) as well as the civil claim</p> <p>Prosecutions for road crashes are rare, although Stagecoach were fined (£2.3m) after the Coventry bus crash, for knowingly letting a 77 year old driver who was dangerously unfit to drive, work all the overtime available when they were short of bus drivers </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354132 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 23:04:55 +0000 chdot 354132@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“pothole repairs part of the capital budget”</p> <p>Really?</p> <p>Not my understanding/assumption. </p> <p>Thought the idea was that proper repairs/resurfacing was capital. </p> <p>Filling in holes with a bucket of (maybe) warm tarmac was ‘cheaper’ <em>and</em> revenue??</p> <p>Not clear why there is a political obsession with filling potholes. </p> <p>(OK, it’s because Cllrs get lotsa complaints.)</p> <p>MUCH better if <em>prevention</em> was in the mindset. </p> <p>Like - better built roads, PROPER enforcement of utility ‘reinstatements’, less traffic, slower speeds, lighter vehicles, etc etc. </p> <p>Not such good headlines… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354126 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 21:34:41 +0000 jss 354126@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>£40 a hole?.and they are crap, A shovel full of tarmac and tar thrown inaccurately at random in the vague direction of an occasional hole<br /> Do they have long meetings discussing which one to fill and which to leave<br /> The small so called Povert road next to me down by the gore glen to Carrington usually has more craters than the moon.Eventually they get around to filling some but then leave adjacent holes unfilled.<br /> Perhaps they were having another cup of tea while discussing ,this hole or that one?<br /> Do they vote on the selection.Is it based on aesthetic grounds? Is it part of a radical traffic calming ideology? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354118 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:51:42 +0000 gembo 354118@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Where is maigrets’ moustaches? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354117 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:18:36 +0000 crowriver 354117@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>---</p> <p>Councillor Cassidy (SNP) said the salary was more akin to a big private company than the council. “We are a small council and have to remember that. pot holes cost £40 to fix and that is 1,000 pot holes we could be repairing across Midlothian for that salary.”</p> <p>---</p> <p>What does that remind me of? Och aye...</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsvLjAzozE" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsvLjAzozE</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354114 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 18:33:50 +0000 gembo 354114@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@morningsider, precisely. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354113 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:56:12 +0000 Morningsider 354113@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Except staff costs are usually part of the revenue budget and pothole repairs part of the capital budget. No easy job to move funds between the two. Still, Midlothian Councillors are only responsible for an annual budget not far off quarter of a billion pounds. Can't expect them to know this detailed stuff. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-354107 Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:33:00 +0000 chdot 354107@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Efforts to recruit a business manager for councillors were put on hold after it was claimed the salary could be used to fill “1,000 potholes”. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/unfortunate-error-claim-over-controversial-ps40k-a-year-midlothian-council-post-advert-3362238" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/unfortunate-error-claim-over-controversial-ps40k-a-year-midlothian-council-post-advert-3362238</a></p> <p>(Perhaps this thread should be renamed ‘warning politics’.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-353019 Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:47:35 +0000 Stickman 353019@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It’s such an easy game for opposition parties to play - pick a number, double it and then say it’s still not enough and Something Must Be Done. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-353018 Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:33:36 +0000 acsimpson 353018@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If they stopped building new roads they could fund £200m and all the active travel schemes that could be dreamt of. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-353013 Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:05:38 +0000 neddie 353013@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>£200 million! Is there no end to the expenditure on motors? Motors that are getting ever larger, heavier and more road-trashier.</p> <p>That amount of money would active-travel-ify several cities. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-353009 Wed, 21 Jul 2021 10:10:46 +0000 chdot 353009@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19454158.scotlands-pothole-plague-spreads-fivefold-snp-tories-demand-200m-repairs" rel="nofollow">https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19454158.scotlands-pothole-plague-spreads-fivefold-snp-tories-demand-200m-repairs</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-213906 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:07:40 +0000 chdot 213906@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>CITY leaders insisted investment was at record high levels”. How often have we heard and read that statement when it comes to dealing with Edinburgh’s true disgrace – potholes?</p> <p>It was certainly trotted out four years ago when the state of the city’s road surfaces was so bad that even tourists were noticing when their open-topped buses ducked and dived from one crater to the next.</p> <p>It was said in response to tourist guides who declared the roads were “Third World” or “18th century” to match the architecture. And it was repeated in response to concerns of business leaders, cycling organisations and even despite the figures which showed that in 2011 the council had 379 claims for compensation against it because of pothole damage – up a whopping 71 per cent from the previous year.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/gina-davidson-no-u-turns-on-the-road-to-ruin-1-4058162" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/gina-davidson-no-u-turns-on-the-road-to-ruin-1-4058162</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-196590 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:52:46 +0000 Colonies_Chris 196590@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ive reported the dips at the Waterloo Place junction several times (and they've been patched several times). Ten days ago I received this:</p> <p>Thank you for contacting the City of Edinburgh Council regarding the above on the 8 August. Our Roads team is aware of the potholes at this junction and has organised temporary repairs to the area. They are currently working on plans to carry out permanent repairs to the area, however given its busy nature they need to consider traffic management for this work carefully.</p> <p>In the meantime please rest assured that this area will monitored closely and any temporary repairs needed will be carried out.</p> <p>If you would like any more information please contact on the details below.</p> <p>Kind Regards<br /> Emma </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-196574 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:42:06 +0000 chdot 196574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>@MatthewWasley: @SpokesLothian @CyclingEdin Kirkgate in Currie is a nightmare downhill since they patched the road instead of resurfacing. [1/2]</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-196536 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:44:41 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 196536@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Had forgotten my contribution to this thread.</p> <p>A few weeks before my holidays I clattered one of the big potholes between Waterloo Place and the Balmoral. Big dent in my rim the LBS said wasn't cost effective to repair (staff time cost I assume) </p> <p>I put a claim in to the council for the cost of a repair or replacement set (I wasn't both wheels to look the same!</p> <p>The claim is now with an external insurer (down south) after being passed from the legal team to the roads department to the local office (whom I'd contacted several times over many months about the state of that section of Princes Street)</p> <p>Although no positive response yet, I have not received any negative response either. The case has always been forwarded/escalated by CEC, not on my insistence having been rejected. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-196526 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:11:32 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 196526@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wonder how much attention was heeded to this </p> <p>'Its main disadvantages are that it is not suitable for all road defects (particularly structural failures) and road types. There are also potential safety issues where the system is used in urban areas (related to wind borne emulsion and propelled chippings).[i]' </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-196482 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:48:03 +0000 chdot 196482@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/47962/item_717_-_road_asset_management_-_spray_injection_patching_-_final" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/47962/item_717_-_road_asset_management_-_spray_injection_patching_-_final</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-194746 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:28:56 +0000 le_soigneur 194746@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The D Mains improvement is the cycle crossing of Cramond Road S &amp; Barnton Ave onto the NEPN Blackhall Path - more of a jug handle now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-194740 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:06:10 +0000 gibbo 194740@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wishicouldgofaster </p> <p><em>"The new cycle 'improvements?' at Davidsons Mains are another example."</em></p> <p>I live in DM and had no idea "improvements" had been made.</p> <p>The only thing I can think of is those bollards on the bridge at the east end of Corbiehill Ave. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-194727 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:20:55 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 194727@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It is just an indication as to the usual shoddy workmanship these days that we have to put up with in Edinburgh.</p> <p>The new cycle 'improvements?' at Davidsons Mains are another example. Weeks to implement minimal improvement for cyclists at a cost of approx £70K (according to a local there) and they are having to fix part of it as it's not right.</p> <p>Surely it would be better to do things properly and avoid extra costs and inconvenience to everyone. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1841&page=4#post-194691 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:06:40 +0000 chdot 194691@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/workman-s-glove-embedded-in-road-in-new-pothole-misery-1-3848692" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/workman-s-glove-embedded-in-road-in-new-pothole-misery-1-3848692</a> </p>