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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: &#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;</title>
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<title>druidh on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Westbound side had been done by 18:30 tonight. It's rough, but no bone-breaker (says he with the 26x2.1 tyres).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Fountainbridge was also &#34;closed&#34; to cars entering from Home Street/East Fountainbridge and heading towards Gardners Crescent - all traffic being funneled down Semple Street. Simple enough to get past on two wheels (though too narrow for a trike).
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@nearefare - I was going West this morning and East in the evening. Maybe they've only done eastbound side, or maybe indeed I was earlier? Certainly gave me a good boneshaking and wish it had been closed or obviously signed.
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<title>nearefare on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;kaputnik&#60;br /&#62;
you must have been earlier than me, I hit it this morning going east and it was dire, closed from the lothian road turn off this evening.
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;Roads Contractor Idiocy Warning&#60;/strong&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Category: Severe&#60;br /&#62;
Location: Fountainbridge / Gardner's Crescent roundabout replacement works&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Synopsis: The contractor doing the works here has decided that today was a good day to scrape the surface of the road back to the hardcore. It was &#34;fine&#34; (as in, a poor attempt at a temporary surface was present) this morning. This evening it's been left in a very rough, scraped state, with c. 1 1/2&#34; steps (no temporary tarmac ramps) on the boundary with the unscraped road surface. Manhole covers thereby standing proud of the surface by the same 1 1/2&#34;. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Big surprise to hit this section with no warning and no visible attempt to smooth the transition in and out this section. I'm sceptical that they'll manage to resurface it by end of tomorrow before snow and freeze forecast.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Dangerous in this state when you &#34;can&#34; see it. Wouldn't like to hit it unexpectedly with a layer of snow obscuring it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Clever.
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<title>chdot on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/dg/dg_forecast_warnings.html&#34;&#62;Met Office warnings page for Lothian and Borders&#60;/a&#62;. Lots of variety of warnings out for Thursday. &#34;Be prepared&#34; is their status for L&#38;amp;B area.
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<title>chdot on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;I'm not sure what the message is.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;'expect 20cm' (west of S.)
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<title>wee folding bike on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There is something funny going on with the Met office over Thursday. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've been getting email warnings since Sunday. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They have a &#34;Be prepared&#34; status for Thursday.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The weather prediction says &#34;Light snow shower&#34;.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm not sure what the message is.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I suspect I'll get the trike out again and slap some Green Oil on the chain.
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<title>cb on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;They should get a fairly thorough test of their new plan on Thursday then.
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<title>chdot on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Scottish government outlines weather response changes&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11988076&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11988076&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Back on my usual LB bike &#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yes, I had to do a double take when I came out of TBW and so you locking up an upright bike! Kinda threw me.
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<title>LaidBack on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Been out to Bike Chain from 'my' shop and back and traffic was fairly static. Leith Street was pretty backed up.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Back on my usual LB bike with Kojaks - zero tread = less resistance = stay away from edges!&#60;br /&#62;
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<title>chdot on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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It's only 4.20 are there is already gridlock in Morningside/Comiston Roads! (Posted 5 days ago)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Pretty solid from Holy Corner by 15.45 today!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Two wheels best...
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<title>Arellcat on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;It's only 4.20 are there is already gridlock in Morningside/Comiston Roads! (Posted 5 days ago)&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It was the same this evening, too.  Being on three wheels today rather than two left me few opportunities to filter because of the huge piles of snow at the side of the road, and my journey out along Comiston Road took ages.  Bus passengers wouldn't have been on time, either.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The roads around the Merchiston-Bruntsfield wedge are far less treated than you might expect, too.  The clear tarmac is only one vehicle wide, which makes for slow going.
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Don't trains have a hair drier and some WD-40? &#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Careful what you wish for folds, it might come true;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2010/12/13115721&#34;&#62;Scotrail to use heated &#34;skirts&#34; to defrost trains&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>wee folding bike on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Corrugated ice was the main limiting factor for me this morning. I actually started to get cold legs because I wasn't pedalling hard enough to generate heat. It was sometimes easier to drop the nearside and front wheel onto the soft snow.
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<title>chdot on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;M8 Update J1 to J5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;packed snow &#34;like driving on cobbles&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;txtr to Radio Scotland
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<title>chdot on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It's only 4.20 are there is already gridlock in Morningside/Comiston Roads!
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Not to mention trams being trams. I'm sure our shiny new trams will be frozen solid come their first winter.
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<title>Stepdoh on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Stepdoh</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;well, the lidingo-a-go-go was running on repurposed 1940's-50's tram units, so there may be something in the new softie bit :)
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Either way, in them days spades were spades and trains were trains.
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<title>wee folding bike on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Wiki says the last 126 ran there in '83 but I remember being on a train you could see out the front of in the summer of '84 when I was working in Glasgow.
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;remember the diesels in Ayr running all the time&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Class 126. No air suspension. Manual slam-doors. Mechanical transmission. Each car produced it's own air supply so less likely for supply lines to freeze up. All-in-all hardier than the modern softie units.
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<title>wee folding bike on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I remember the diesels in Ayr running all the time, even at night. The line to Ayr has been electric since 1986.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Don't trains have a hair drier and some WD-40?
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The North Berwick service &#60;em&#62;is&#60;/em&#62; Electric, but the units are stabled over in the west as there's no facilities for them in the east. So probably couldn't make it over here to ply their trade as there were iced-up diesels blocking them in. A bit like the gritters and ploughs not being able to go down roads littered with abandoned cars.
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<title>Stepdoh on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;ahh, west coaster here, used to the SPT network and forgot that not all the country is run on the magik electrick stuff.
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<title>kaputnik on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I did a spot of lunchtime googling. Current thinking is that the blame lies in the pneumatic system which in a train controls the braking and suspension (and the doors). Some units use pneumatic throttles and gearboxes too. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The air in the system will be at atmoshperic humidity. If it then freezes, ice will form in the air lines and the various check valves in the system, which effectively siezes it up and all control of the unit is lost. Once a train is up and running, it will generally keep running, it's starting them up from cold seems to be the tricky bit. Of course, they are also diesel engined and it's nearly been cold enough to freeze diesel. Big diesels apparently not the most co-operative at starting in extreme cold. &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-11947787&#34;&#62;A bus operator in the Borders has cancelled all services because the diesel froze overnight&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So perhaps it's Scotrail's fault for not leaving all their trains idling overnight!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Subsequent inability to co-ordinate an emergency timetable service and provide passengers with reasonable information can likely be blamed on administrative failure. Or maybe the management couldn't drive in to work?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Austrian railways largely electrocuted I think (along with the lindingobanana)
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Problem with working form home when remoting into virtual PCs is that most people do still work in an office and it's only the travelling sales people that get to do this on a regular basis, most managers want to keep their employees where they can see (and hear) them, have team huddles and &#60;em&#62;motivational posters&#60;/em&#62; up around the place.&#60;br /&#62;
So when more people remote in than usual it slows the service down and the critical users get trouble.&#60;br /&#62;
If only they had a &#60;em&#62;motivational poster&#60;/em&#62; in their home beside the router they have to reboot repeatedly...
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I know when I was in Stockholm last year even funny old little lidingöbanan was running fine and it was hammering it down with snow.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObbdO5GymNw&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObbdO5GymNw&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The lidingöbanan is a world of awesome though. Maybe we need some sort of railed transport option in Embra?
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<title>ruggtomcat on "&#34;Public warned to stay off roads&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I wonder if the trains in snowy Austria are running?
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