http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Went down like a sack of spuds en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:00:54 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-274713 Thu, 08 Feb 2018 15:30:26 +0000 dessert rat 274713@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I collected it this morning.</p> <p>Feeling slightly underwhelmed, perhaps I will grow to love it in time. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-274479 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 10:32:25 +0000 dessert rat 274479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Replacement has arrived 6 weeks ahead of schedule - normal service soon to be resumed. As much fun as it was charging round on the 29er MTB, it is not really the ideal commuting machine.</p> <p>onwards </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-273806 Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:25:25 +0000 dessert rat 273806@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Omans doee get quite a few mentions on CCE, seems only reasonable that is there, add I can't see PY/notPY making it there anytime soon.</p> <p>Old bike returned, although too the wrong shop. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-273762 Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:09:33 +0000 unhurt 273762@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hurrah! Shall we wet the baby's head? (NOT in Oman's.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-273737 Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:46:57 +0000 dessert rat 273737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Replacement looks like it's sorted.</p> <p>Arriving mid-March. GT sufficiently concerned / understanding they've offered a replacement @ trade. </p> <p>So nice of them as I wasn't expecting or asking or even hinting. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272802 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 08:12:19 +0000 rider73 272802@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cromodermy? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272798 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:52:51 +0000 unhurt 272798@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You know how some people have beloved pets stuffed so they can keep them around even after death? Maybe there's a bike equivalent... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272795 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:22:17 +0000 acsimpson 272795@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think it's ok to stop wearing a black armband once you have a new N.</p> <p>while you are N-1 mourning is perfectly natural. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272738 Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:39:36 +0000 I were right about that saddle 272738@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I just checked TripAdviser and it's <em>ages</em> since anyone was killed there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272735 Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:28:37 +0000 unhurt 272735@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So we can mourn @Iain and you too after you accidentally offend a regular with your weeping? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272734 Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:17:43 +0000 I were right about that saddle 272734@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I would (will?) suffer genuine grief if my bike died. I feel your pain.</p> <p>Shall we hold a brief wake in Oman's tonight? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272733 Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:06:23 +0000 stiltskin 272733@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wouldn't mourn for it at all. It tried to kill you.. While you may have loved it, you need to realise that it was probably a cyclopath. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272729 Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:50:44 +0000 dessert rat 272729@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>GT have collected and inspected the bike, turns out the frame has suffered terminal damage also :(</p> <p>Is there a standard duration for the period of mourning when this happens ?</p> <p>we never even got to say goodbye properly ... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-272001 Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:07:19 +0000 unhurt 272001@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Elbow bruise pics plz. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271993 Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:59:00 +0000 dessert rat 271993@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - yes, I have Bellhop #1 call out every 10th stride and Bellhop @2 strikes a small triangle every 10 seconds, so I can keep a manual record.</p> <p>Below is my KOM on The Mound</p> <p><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4621/24745481167_12d2cc3dbe.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271990 Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:48:17 +0000 I were right about that saddle 271990@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Fear not though @IWRATS, I am using the mobile app in the interim.</em></p> <p>Good news chief. By 'mobile app' you mean sack barrow, yes? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271988 Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:43:09 +0000 dessert rat 271988@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ejstubbs thank you for the lovely offer - however a replacement fork is already ordered.</p> <p>UPDATE #l: GT have asked me to box up the bike and they will collect - they want to see it. So perhaps they will replace the broken bits. (maybe I should have waited on ordering the fork).</p> <p>UPDATE #2: My Garmin no longer working since the crash, so that's going back. Fear not though @IWRATS, I am using the mobile app in the interim.</p> <p>UPDATE #3: The bruise on my elbow is quite spectacular. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271862 Tue, 09 Jan 2018 11:13:59 +0000 ejstubbs 271862@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><strong>@Iain McR</strong>: I've just realised that you have (had?) a CX bike with cantilever front brakes. I have a Specialized carbon fork with canti bosses which you'd be welcome to have if it would fit your bike. I switched to a disc front brake a couple of years ago so the old fork is redundant. It's in excellent nick (and dates from <u>after</u> the time when Specialized had the problem with their carbon forks which forced them to do a major recall). PM me if you'd be interested. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271844 Tue, 09 Jan 2018 01:07:03 +0000 gkgk 271844@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's a pity forks don't come with a 2mm internal cable wire connecting the compressor top cap to the underside of the fork. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271785 Mon, 08 Jan 2018 15:35:54 +0000 I were right about that saddle 271785@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Now that's why I thought it was maybe a quilled steerer that had snapped. </p> <p>Can we get them there pics, Iain? I'm intrigued. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271782 Mon, 08 Jan 2018 15:08:01 +0000 dessert rat 271782@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Cyclingmollie - as far as I can tell, its an aluminium steerer tube that's pressed into the top of the forks. </p> <p>I have other pics if you wish. It is presently on display at the Elec Cycle Comp on Granton Rd. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271749 Mon, 08 Jan 2018 10:57:43 +0000 Cyclingmollie 271749@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can't work out what broke, from the photo. There seems to be an aluminium element within the steerer tube. What is that? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271736 Mon, 08 Jan 2018 10:07:36 +0000 IanE 271736@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>re: bike shops offering MOTs, I don't think there's a shop in the land would want that liability!</p> <p>You would need some sort of ultrasonic scanner or something (and the training and skills to use it) to try and detect flaws that led to that ^ fork failure.</p> <p>The only pragmatic approach is to try and use rule of thumb/estimated lifespans, we do this for mechanical services in buildings, but it means we end up recommending thousand of pounds worth of replacement equipment because CIBSE say that the existing stuff has reached end of life, no prizes for guessing what the clients do with those recommendations!</p> <p>commiserations OP, I would have offered you a free replacement fork but it's bright pink and creaks a bit, which is why I now use it as a glorified toilet roll holder :D </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271668 Sun, 07 Jan 2018 15:12:02 +0000 ejstubbs 271668@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><strong>@Ed1</strong>: <em>I see on line that aluminium bars can have catastrophic failure</em></p> <p>That's a key difference between steel and aluminium. Fatigue failure in steel can be usually be detected before the component actually fails by inspecting for cracking. Aluminium has a nasty tendency to let go without warning. That, in simple terms, is why airframes (which you alluded to) are certified for a fixed number of takeoffs and landings. Vulcan XH558 is now permanently grounded because its aluminium airframe has exceeded its lifetime load cycle limit (the Vulcan to the Sky folks were also starting to have problems keeping enough engines serviceable, but that wasn't the main reason for the end of flight - they are still doing high power ground runs.)</p> <p>It would be hellishly difficult to come up with a similar set of rules for bikes. It's basically not possible to put together retirement criteria for alloy bike frames because it's not practical to keep track of the loadings they're subjected to in normal use. On the road there's impacts from cobbled streets, sleeping policemen, potholes - even kerb-hopping, if you indulge in that sort of thing. The list is even longer for off-road riding. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271645 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 21:54:52 +0000 LaidBack 271645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bad one. Glad you are OK. I see a few of these at Bicycle Works. Some big name brands too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271638 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 20:41:29 +0000 HankChief 271638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Eek. Glad it wasn't a heck of lot worse. Heal well. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271634 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 20:25:33 +0000 Snowy 271634@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just read it - yikes! Fair to say that's one of my nightmare scenarios. Glad you're ok. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498&page=2#post-271628 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 20:13:38 +0000 I were right about that saddle 271628@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>think I got off lightly</em></p> <p>You did. My testicles spontaneously retracted when I read your original post. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498#post-271626 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 20:10:49 +0000 dessert rat 271626@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>a few pains and bruises today - esp right elbow.</p> <p>Keep thinking other scenarios - think I got off lightly.</p> <p>New fork ordered. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18498#post-271478 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 16:12:31 +0000 chdot 271478@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“I conclude that the welds are good, which they certainly were, but are they still?”</p> <p>Clearly, but it’s not just welds that fail.</p> <p>On steel frames, tubes can fail next to the lug, or even pull out of lugs if not enough brass used.</p> <p>I had a Dawes Galaxy frame collapse once. The downtube sheared where it connected to lug joined to headtube.</p> <p>Fortunately I wasn’t going fast (on Union Canal towpath) and even more fortunately the toptube didn’t fail as well.</p> <p>I assume the framebuilder had put too much heat into the braze. </p>