http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Avoiding weight gain when not cycling en Wed, 13 May 2026 04:14:14 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271675 Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:21:23 +0000 crowriver 271675@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Rosie, yeah that sounds like me for the past few years!</p> <p>Will power. The only way...</p> <p>Trying again this year, have to do something! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271664 Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:05:09 +0000 Rosie 271664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>the 5/2 is effective and doable. I do it when my trousers get tight. I find that on the 5 days you eat less and skip the work treats as you're mindful of the 2 days. </p> <p>However I only do it for a month or two, enjoy the results, then return to my old ways of beer, cheese, butter etc and the weight goes up again, the trousers tighten, and so the cycle continues. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271662 Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:26:32 +0000 crowriver 271662@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Darkerside, this programme kicked off the 5:2 thing for me and many others. Worth a watch.</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01lxyzc" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01lxyzc</a></p> <p>Main thing to remember about the "2s" is the 600 calorie daily limit (for men). And drink plenty of water...!</p> <p>Further advice here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/what-52-diet" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/what-52-diet</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271658 Sun, 07 Jan 2018 11:14:49 +0000 Darkerside 271658@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Excellent thread... :)</p> <p>5:2 sounds workable, particularly as it involves minimal disruption to other people's meals (the diet of someone trying to avoid putting on weight and that of a breastfeeding mum being pretty much opposites).</p> <p>Let me Google how bad the '2's needs to be... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271603 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:03:44 +0000 crowriver 271603@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"But we have long established that most people don’t look at the economics of <strike>transport</strike> anything particularly rationally."</p> <p>FTFY</p> <p>Exhibit A: Brexit. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271573 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 11:03:57 +0000 chdot 271573@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“it takes up no (extra) time”</p> <p>That depends.</p> <p>CCE is never ‘representative’ but there are definitely people here who choose to cycle commute quite long distances that could be done quicker by car or train (where available).</p> <p>However for general utility - shops, work, destinations of 2, 3, 5 miles (depending to a degree on geography, fitness and towncentreness) it can <em>save</em> time when factoring in finding a parking space, waiting for the bus etc.</p> <p>Add in the time spent working to pay for a car in the first place...</p> <p>But we have long established that most people don’t look at the economics of transport particularly rationally. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271572 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 10:53:01 +0000 sallyhinch 271572@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>TBH I think the main thing is to avoid a sedentary lifestyle. When it comes to health your actual weight matters a lot less compared to how much exercise you're getting. Difficult for the time poor, though, as @darkerside is finding. One of the beauties of utility cycling is the fact that it takes up no (extra) time and builds lots of good exercise into your day. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271571 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 10:41:26 +0000 Nelly 271571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"must involve considerable willpower" I couldnt do the shakes and soup thing, yuk.</p> <p>I have read about this reversing diabetes - pretty interesting stuff.</p> <p>1600 calories is pretty low for an ongoing target unless you have a small frame - when you consider that a bowl of porridge with 275ml of semi skimmed is 290 calories.</p> <p>However, if you have developed diabetes then perhaps the alternative is even less appealing? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271567 Sat, 06 Jan 2018 08:35:00 +0000 chdot 271567@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Slightly OT.</p> <p>“</p> <p>patients were put on a “soup and shake” diet for three months before being gradually introduced to food again building up to a daily diet of 1600 calories</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/health/lothian-man-reverses-diabetes-after-taking-part-in-diet-trial-1-4654775" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/health/lothian-man-reverses-diabetes-after-taking-part-in-diet-trial-1-4654775</a></p> <p>Don’t know whether that’s about type or quantity of food (or both), but must involve considerable willpower. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271558 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 23:26:55 +0000 minus six 271558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>byrne, frantz, weymouth, harrison and belew</p> <p>i reckon anyone's neighbour and spouse is likely to be not far off their entire weight combined</p> <p>we live in interesting times </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271557 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 23:21:15 +0000 ARobComp 271557@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Breast-fed babies were shown in a very large scale study in NZ/AUS to be less pre-disposed to childhood obesity. </p> <p>You could just ... No wait that's a terrible idea. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271552 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:55:52 +0000 chdot 271552@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I’m not going to make myself popular here, but I think a lot has to do with genetics, or perhaps upbringing (or both).</p> <p>There were youthful times when I drank a large bottle of sugary pop a day, plus quite a lot of chocolate, lots of milk and 3 reasonable, mother provided, meals a day + a lot of cycling and general outdoors.</p> <p>Then a shortish period of less than great self-catering, followed by a time of brown bread, brown rice, vegetables, not much alcohol (relative poverty etc.)</p> <p>Then years of reasonably diet, not much meat, too much alcohol (4 pints every day for a few periods) variable amounts of regular cycling (no ‘exercise’).</p> <p>Probably a stone or so heavier than in my 20’s (inevitable and probably good). Never (as far as I can remember) noticeably ‘overweight’.</p> <p>Fish suppers every week, not many takeaways or very much eating out - more lattes and brownies than full meals.</p> <p>Never “dieted” - and I do believe that most people who do put the weight on again.</p> <p>So apart from genetics, avoid ‘enlarging your stomach’ seems to be wise advice (and probably hard to get back from).</p> <p>So not very helpful or dealing with ‘psychologies surrounding food’ or ‘how to deal with the commercialised food culture’, or the daily ‘away-from-home-eating-options’.</p> <p>So my ‘advice’ is “eat less and stress less about it”.</p> <p>HOWEVER I do understand that some people really have ‘issues’ that can’t just be their own fault.</p> <p>In general blame the food industries and Govs’ failure to challenge them adequately. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499&page=2#post-271551 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:52:47 +0000 minus six 271551@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>stay hungry</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHGUO_WgT8" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHGUO_WgT8</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271547 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:30:17 +0000 ARobComp 271547@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>**catches up on thread while supping second beer of evening** </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271525 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:46:52 +0000 minus six 271525@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I can also testify to the weight going back on when you "take a break" from 5:2</em></p> <p>three or four diligent months on the 5:2 does change your overall attitude to diet significantly enough that you can slip back to 6:1 or even 13:1 if you remain sensible</p> <p>beer does mean putting the miles in though, no escaping that </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271524 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:30:20 +0000 unhurt 271524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>See how @Iwrats feels about measuring bike rides etc.? That's how I feel about food diaries.</p> <p>@gembo Vitamin C was probably provided by the odd can of Irn Bru? Also I was 22ish and so immune to scurvy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271521 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:25:13 +0000 I were right about that saddle 271521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>part of how IWRATS's diet works</em></p> <p>That's it, my lady. Imagine a massive ginger biker sat down chasing a crisp round a tiny plate with a fork, right on the cusp of tears and you've got it.</p> <p>There's an entire novel in the episode. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271520 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:23:23 +0000 crowriver 271520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>5:2 intermittent fasting does work, I can testify to that. However you need to keep at it. I can also testify to the weight going back on when you "take a break" from 5:2.</p> <p>Psychologically I find 5:2 easier to deal with than restricting calories every single day, which is just too puritanical for me.</p> <p>Drink more water, cut out fruit juice, milk, fizzy drinks (even diet ones). Water fills you up and you snack less. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271518 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:59:14 +0000 gembo 271518@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@unhurt, not much vit C in your Billy Wizz diet? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271517 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:58:53 +0000 sallyhinch 271517@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also I imagine that the impossibility of eating crisps with a knife and fork (and beer, unless it's at the really craft end of the spectrum) is part of how IWRATS's diet works </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271516 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:57:19 +0000 sallyhinch 271516@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Keeping a food diary, weighing yourself regularly (but not obsessively) and keeping up some form of exercise will all help. Can you walk/run during your lunch break? Even if you're working accelerated hours, 20-30 minutes outside moving will be helpful. </p> <p>Depending on your workplace, doing more of it standing up might help. Also don't discount the impact of drinking lots of water and all the subsequent trips to the loo that that entails. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271514 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:43:34 +0000 minus six 271514@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>aye true that, you can't beat the lou reed for intensive weight control but bruxism wreaks such a high price over time </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271511 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:30:44 +0000 unhurt 271511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm, no one's suggested speed yet? Speed, cigarettes, instant noodles, coffee and beer: a suprisingly good diet for being skinny (when you're 22). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271509 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:25:28 +0000 minus six 271509@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>intermittent fasting or the 5-2 diet for four months, followed by a spartan ongoing diet to stay in trim</p> <p>the key here is to acknowledge hunger as a normal state and treat it as a natural ally</p> <p>holidays can be excluded, as the body tends to graciously accommodate brief interludes of outright excess</p> <p>i forsake bread rather than beer </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271500 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 18:09:28 +0000 gembo 271500@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cb, nothing about crisps in Muriel Spark, however it is the 100th anniversary of her birth. R4 going with Th Vital Spark, probably without knowing about Para Handy?</p> <p>@IWRATS, hmm, at my finishing school The Johnstone High, we learned how to make a piece on crisps. Lovely. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271496 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 17:06:19 +0000 ARobComp 271496@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I now drink stronger beer which you drink less of for the same effect. </p> <p>Amazing how I only want one 330ml can of 8% quadruple hopped Barrel aged honey-stout* </p> <p>Also I should point out in my options above - in option 1 you only need to not drink beer during the time you're trying to shrink the stomach. Although I recommend not downing beer and stretching your stomach back out. </p> <p>*not a thing </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271484 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 16:22:24 +0000 cb 271484@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You could try the <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/a-far-cry-from-kensington-by-muriel-spark-the-novel-cure-for-eating-too-much-a6788696.html">Far Cry from Kensington</a> method although it is wasteful. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271476 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 16:03:04 +0000 I were right about that saddle 271476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>@iwrats How the feck do you eat crisps off a plate with a fork and knife?</em></p> <p>How did you ever make it through finishing school? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271473 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 15:57:03 +0000 SRD 271473@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@darkerside can you run with mini/micro/nano darkerside in a buggy? I have never done this, but I see it sometimes. </p> <p>i find running is the only thing that works for me. but like you can't find time. </p> <p>i've managed to mostly cut out sweets when at home (at desk at work much harder) but booze is my bane. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18499#post-271472 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 15:55:10 +0000 gembo 271472@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@darkerside, go vegan it is so on trend now it is painful. Painful for me as I was vegan for years when hard. Very low fat diet, also lot of sweets not vegan or even veggie.</p> <p>@iwrats How the feck do you eat crisps off a plate with a fork and knife? </p>