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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: OT: Mark E Smith</title>
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<title>gembo on "OT: Mark E Smith"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@crowriver, probably only mark saw any money at the time. Lawyers fees would exceed returns for the others.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I was dancing to a live version of Totally Wired by an Italian riot grrrrrl backed by three old geezers. Was ok. I did have to show the young Italians the elbow moves. The band was called Kurtz. Their Cramps Iggy and Dead Kennedy numbers better.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They were sandwiched between a very original band The Leg (you can wiki them and also Paul Vickers and The Leg) and the act I introduce with my short stuff (to stop them playing over the top of me if I go on too long). They are called Land of Cakes, named after a bakery in Dundee.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@bax, ah yes off course. I bought that album on cassette: no record player in my student days (There re-purchased it on CD in the early zeroes when I was earning some money. So Mark et al got 2 x a few pennies from me in royalties). Somehow it mind melded with Bend Sinister  in my conscious memory (also purchased on cassette back in the day and then re-bought on CD 15 years later). Couple of great albums both!
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<title>Cyclingmollie on "OT: Mark E Smith"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2019 12:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That's right the mascara snake, fast and bulbous.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@bax, yes but Bend Sinister was both fast and bulbous
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<description>&#60;p&#62;it was the centrepiece of This Nation's Saving Grace, but no matter Crowriver, as those early to mid 80s albums were firmly holographic in both character and intent, while showcasing significant musical diversity
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<title>crowriver on "OT: Mark E Smith"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ah yes, a classic. From Bend Sinister if I recall? The dulcet tones of Brix at the end.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;HEY MARK &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://thequietus.com/articles/05559-this-nations-saving-grace-the-fall&#34;&#62;WHY CAN'T I LIVE IN ENGLAND&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxT6a0PavTo&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxT6a0PavTo&#60;/a&#62;
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Good Mark E documentary on BBC 4 last night or catchup.  Bizarrely Mrs Garto did not immediately insist on it being put off.  Walters Is dead. Mark E favoured Walters, tells amusing anecdote (a three beer session with Walters being a sip) never that keen on peel?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Mark e stages an argument with the band. He is in schoolteacher mode. One of them says , why do you go to the pub and leave us, Mark E says Don't you say that to me etc.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;it pays to talk to no one&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;this is the summer of malcontent &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;it is the winter of your mind&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjrslHUgUa8&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjrslHUgUa8&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2018 20:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@bax, no effete middle class digital types at that wake?
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Brawl erupts at Mark's funeral&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;I've got to say, it was just like a Fall gig, some strange people there, and it kicked off.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;The wake, however, didn't last half an hour before bottles were thrown and drinks poured over people. Total disrespect, he’d have loved it.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/mark-e-smith-funeral-wake-14266255&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/mark-e-smith-funeral-wake-14266255&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2018 21:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;hey mark&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;you're spoiling all the paintwork&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxT6a0PavTo&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxT6a0PavTo&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2018 20:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;caught in a trap&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;no turning back&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuKXYeRCUzI&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuKXYeRCUzI&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>gembo on "OT: Mark E Smith"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 08:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@bax I hear you telephone thing listening in&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Shepherd's Bush 8055 where was the delay in the Mike Read era Phone in- Is this Matt Bianco? Yes. Ah, then you are a bunch of w@&#38;amp;!errs
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<description>&#60;p&#62;how dare you assume i want to parlez-vous with you&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzAOiA4dH_o&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzAOiA4dH_o&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
.&#60;br /&#62;
&#34;i'm tapped&#34;
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<description>&#60;p&#62;no takers&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ah well it was this&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/36/Multi-Coloured_Swap_Shop_Titles.jpg/250px-Multi-Coloured_Swap_Shop_Titles.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;r.i.p keith chegwin
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;shepherds bush 8055&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;challenge offered to decipher that reference
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<description>&#60;p&#62;G-0-H-0-H-0-9-0
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<description>&#60;p&#62;what's a computer&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;eat y'self fitter&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFCOt6wbm80&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFCOt6wbm80&#60;/a&#62;
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@gembo, not doubting that. From that interview though it sounds like he would be reading in the Advocate's Library or the old Royal Infirmary Library of an afternoon before embarking on a round of boozing in various bars.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;He did educaate himself through the municipal galleries and libraries of Greater Manchestah
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<description>&#60;p&#62;More likely the Central Bar, Leith.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;ENews taking tenuous connections to the extreme!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don’t know if the leader of the Fall – the band’s sole continuous member, the hirer-and-firer, the musical director who once implored his quaking new guitarist, “Play it like a fookin’ snake!” – frequented the Central when he lived in Edinburgh but I wouldn’t be surprised.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/aidan-smith-mark-e-smith-a-legend-of-the-fall-and-city-libraries-1-4676601&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/aidan-smith-mark-e-smith-a-legend-of-the-fall-and-city-libraries-1-4676601&#60;/a&#62;
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Never heard of him....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;EDIT: &#34; &#60;a href=&#34;https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/24/mark-e-smith-lead-singer-with-the-fall-dies-aged-60&#34;&#62;frontman of Manchester post-punk band the Fall&#60;/a&#62; ... &#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've just about heard of The Fall.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;They say them cellars were evil black&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But I know they're wrong&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Think it's one&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Been&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Living Too Long
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sometimes life is like a new bar&#60;br /&#62;
Plastic seats, beer below par&#60;br /&#62;
Food with no taste, music grates&#60;br /&#62;
I'm living too late
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Crow's feet are ingrained on my face&#60;br /&#62;
And I'm living too late&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Try to &#60;a href=&#34;https://genius.com/The-fall-living-too-late-lyrics&#34;&#62;wash the black off my face&#60;/a&#62;, but it's ingrained&#60;br /&#62;
And I'm living too late&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2lXmimrnic&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2lXmimrnic&#60;/a&#62;
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Edinburgh: &#34;They're too tight to knock the buildings down, y'know...&#34;
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<description>&#60;p&#62;if you ended up in the pub with mark after the gig, he would just shamble around at closing time with everyone else. no flash taxis, airs or graces. lovely guy, down to earth manc geezer
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<description>&#60;p&#62;edinburgh:  &#34;its the poor man's san francisco&#34;
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