http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: The future is bright. The future is automatic. en Wed, 13 May 2026 01:48:34 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-301318 Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:47:07 +0000 Rosie 301318@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>More and more bizarre:-</p> <p>"The Dutch government is working with Germany and Belgium on establishing “truck platooning” – where one human-driven vehicle leads a convoy of autonomous ones — on major roads.</p> <p>Under the plans, about 100 driverless trucks would drive the “Tulip corridors” at night – from Amsterdam to Antwerp, and from Rotterdam to the Ruhr valley – fully maximising the routes through which the Netherlands distributes its goods using 5G technology and 1,200 smart traffic lights."</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/13/bikes-put-spanner-in-works-of-dutch-driverless-car-schemes?CMP=share_btn_tw" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/13/bikes-put-spanner-in-works-of-dutch-driverless-car-schemes?CMP=share_btn_tw</a></p> <p>When I was wee I'd make a line of chairs and drive the front one making choo-choo noises. I was pretending to be a - a -a TRAIN!</p> <p>"But a report by the professional service company KPMG highlights a major problem for Dutch ministers in introducing the technology to urban centres, where the bicycle is increasingly king.</p> <p>Driverless cars detect other road users using a variety of cameras or laser-sensing systems to ensure that they stop if an object is detected in their path.</p> <p>But the varying sizes and agility of cyclists, with their sudden changes in speed and loose adherence to the rules of the road, present a major challenge to the existing technology."</p> <p>Guerrilla cycling discourages the driverlessmobile. That's encouragement to the lawless among us. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-275365 Sat, 17 Feb 2018 10:59:51 +0000 Rosie 275365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Self-driving cars - the all purpose transport solution. Built on Silicon enthusiasm and easy money.</p> <p><a href="https://amp.ft.com/content/80db549c-111c-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277?__twitter_impression=true" rel="nofollow">https://amp.ft.com/content/80db549c-111c-11e8-940e-08320fc2a277?__twitter_impression=true</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-273794 Sat, 27 Jan 2018 12:47:24 +0000 crowriver 273794@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@unhurt, "If we want walkable urbanism (and we should), we will have to make a stand."</p> <p>Yep. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-273789 Sat, 27 Jan 2018 12:29:00 +0000 crowriver 273789@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS, "“[The speech] was literally artificial intelligence,” said an official from an EU country."</p> <p>The driverless Prime Minister is proof that the whole thing is a bad idea. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-273777 Sat, 27 Jan 2018 09:31:53 +0000 Rosie 273777@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's always daft to predict the shape of the future via new inventions. The digital revolution has changed our lives dramatically (eg posting here) but not turned us into cyborgs getting our nourishment via pills. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-273771 Fri, 26 Jan 2018 23:15:01 +0000 unhurt 273771@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Did anyone link this already?</p> <p><a href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/17/destroying_the_city_to_save_the_robocar/">Destroying the city to save the robocar: The fight for our public space</a></p> <p>"Dealing with pedestrians safely is difficult, expensive, and culturally alien to the nerds building the cars; Melissa Cefkin at Nissan is a rare anthropologist in the business.</p> <p>"The randomness of the environment such as children or wildlife cannot be dealt with by today's technology," admits Volvo's director of autonomous driving, Markus Rothoff. The driverless car can't hear you scream. Tests are not being conducted in real pedestrian-congested conditions.</p> <p>The cheat is: just get rid of the people around cars, so you don't need to solve these problems." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-273726 Fri, 26 Jan 2018 17:06:10 +0000 Rosie 273726@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's always the technical fix, never the political decision.</p> <p>I see that Christian Wolmar's <em>Driverless cars: On a road to nowhere </em> is coming out in February. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18550#post-273725 Fri, 26 Jan 2018 17:00:08 +0000 I were right about that saddle 273725@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is the future the prime minister would like us to be excited about;</p> <p><a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/theresa-may-davos-speech-audience-unconvinced/">Imagine a world in which self-driving cars radically reduce the number of deaths on our roads.</a></p> <p>Haud me back somebody, please. </p>