http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “Major resurfacing works are to take place between Newington Road and Hunter Sq” en Tue, 19 May 2026 22:48:14 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-284417 Sat, 09 Jun 2018 18:14:50 +0000 chdot 284417@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1743/41792069175_99d64a8ed2_o.jpg"><img src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1743/41792069175_7b7626be86.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-284041 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 17:20:34 +0000 gkgk 284041@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I hope they keep the argos island. Great bike lock zone for when picking up orders. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-284016 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 15:22:21 +0000 jonty 284016@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Actually come to think of it the Blair Street one that's having the pavement widened was four lanes too (although I think it's going down to three.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-284014 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 15:18:54 +0000 Snowy 284014@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Indeed the Toucan crossing of Clerk Street (Gifford Park to Rankeillor Street bike route) is 4 lanes in one go, and doesn't even take long to trigger.<br /> Edit: can't be sure it's a Toucan, my mind might be playing tricks. But it's at least a Puffin, and defo 4 lanes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-284012 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 14:53:17 +0000 Frenchy 284012@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Not sure where you heard that.</em></p> <p>Thought it was in an email from a council officer, but I can't find it now, so might have been said at a consultation event.</p> <p>The crossing at McEwan Square has been there for at least six years (from Street View), so the policy might have changed since then. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-284011 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 14:36:32 +0000 Klaxon 284011@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Not sure where you heard that.</em></p> <p>A line repeated regularly and loudly by CEC officials in defense of the Picardy Place scheme </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-284001 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 12:58:54 +0000 neddie 284001@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Crossings of roads with four or more lanes can't be single stage</em></p> <p>Not sure where you heard that. The fairly recently installed toucan at the Western Approach Rd and McEwan Sq crosses 4 lanes in a single stage. You have to wait for days for the lights to change, mind.</p> <p><em>Move the Tron...</em></p> <p>I like it. Move a whole church to accommodate motor vehicles. No one can imagine the motor vehicles not being there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283990 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 11:55:37 +0000 chdot 283990@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1738/28568217068_d64884cbff.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283986 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 11:40:12 +0000 paulmilne 283986@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Now if they could only move the Tron west by about 10 metres... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283985 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 11:40:09 +0000 jonty 283985@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was talking about the pedestrian crossing outside Argos, yeah. I'm not sure the four lanes restriction is in place anymore - see <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/j5cxQ2KeVwC2">here</a> and <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/NtxLPv3skbL2">here</a> further along the road. You'd think North Bridge with its good visibility and 20mph limit (which at that point isn't *too* theoretical, at least going uphill) would be a reasonable place for one.</p> <p>The North Bridge/Royal Mile junction does have two pedestrian phases like the George IV one, but only if the button is pressed during the preceding traffic phase. (I assume that's the case for both.) During most of the day this means there's usually consistent double pedestrian phases. However, when waiting to go south off North Bridge you occasionally realise with entirely selfish satisfaction that none of the (usually 10+) people waiting to cross have actually pressed the button, meaning you immediately (and totally unfairly) get a green light. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283979 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 11:05:10 +0000 Frenchy 283979@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>You mean where pedestrian lights are green on all 4 crossings at same time?</em></p> <p>I thought they meant the pedestrian crossing further up, outside Argos.</p> <p><em>But then I thought there were two pedestrian phases on a full cycle. Pretty there was only one last week when I passed.</em></p> <p>Might depend on the time of day/how often people push the button etc, but I don't remember this junction having two pedestrian phases/cycle. The one at George IV Bridge/High Street definitely does though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283977 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 10:50:47 +0000 chdot 283977@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“could it be going single stage?”</p> <p>You mean where pedestrian lights are green on all 4 crossings at same time?</p> <p>I thought it was.</p> <p>But then I thought there were two pedestrian phases on a full cycle. Pretty there was only one last week when I passed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283976 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 10:49:52 +0000 Frenchy 283976@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>could it be going single stage?</em></p> <p>Doubt it. Crossings of roads with four or more lanes can't be single stage, and it's unlikely that they're reducing the number of lanes on North Bridge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283974 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 10:44:09 +0000 jonty 283974@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They are definitely widening the pavement <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/5DJFQ8Fxb4L2">here</a> from crossing to the junction with Blair Street, levelling up the pavements so that there's no longer that unpleasant thing where the outside lane on one side is opposite the inside on the others so vehicles sometimes change lanes obliviously. Presumably the southbound bus/parking lane will start later as a result. </p> <p>They also seem to be doing something with the North Bridge pedestrian crossing - could it be going single stage? That would be nice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283632 Wed, 30 May 2018 14:17:28 +0000 crowriver 283632@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"they're using a temporary order in the meantime"</p> <p>Very possible.</p> <p>"the current layout doesn't actually conform to the 'legal' layout and they're using this opportunity to correct it"</p> <p>That would be interesting if the case.</p> <p>Presumably if the redetermination does not affect parking/loading bays or bus lanes then it can be done under a temporary RSO/TRO (which requires no public consultation), then advertise a permanent order as a fait accompl, objections being "set aside"i later (see Leith Street for a recent example of this) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283630 Wed, 30 May 2018 14:08:34 +0000 jonty 283630@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's what I thought, but at the pedestrian crossing and the junction with Blair Street it really does look like the kerbline is being moved out. Perhaps there's some sort of exception for slight changes like this, or they're using a temporary order in the meantime or something like that? It's very possible I'm just totally misinterpreting the situation. </p> <p>The other possibility which occurs to me is that the current layout doesn't actually conform to the 'legal' layout and they're using this opportunity to correct it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283621 Wed, 30 May 2018 13:40:58 +0000 Klaxon 283621@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Any sort of pavement widening scheme needs an RSO </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-283620 Wed, 30 May 2018 13:38:10 +0000 jonty 283620@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presumably as part of this scheme the pavement on South Bridge looks like it's being widened, at least on the western side, just in time for the Fringe!</p> <p>I knew 'some improvements' were going to happen within the limits of what was possible during a resurfacing but I thought this sort of thing needed legal approval. Have any plans been published? Do we know what else is coming? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-279634 Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:36:07 +0000 neddie 279634@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also mentioned here:</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12296&amp;page=3#post-273988" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12296&amp;page=3#post-273988</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-279608 Fri, 06 Apr 2018 09:14:40 +0000 gembo 279608@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Trixie's has posted a vid-ay-oh of a very long jam that starts at this piece of road. On frustrated motorists thread. Stuck in a jam with four spare seats and no one to talk to except illegally on your phone. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-279598 Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:37:15 +0000 I were right about that saddle 279598@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Minto Street was done not that long ago, but the gas main replacement was done in a hurry, joints left unsealed and substrate not compacted so now it's falling to bits. This will be the same.</p> <p>Segregated bike lanes last much longer because they don't have HGVs in them. Taxpayer should therefore be delighted to see them installed in this vital transport corridor. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-279597 Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:31:54 +0000 paulmilne 279597@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Perfect opportunity to build world class cycling infrastructure on this major stretch of busy capital road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18713#post-279583 Thu, 05 Apr 2018 22:32:53 +0000 chdot 279583@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/major-works-to-close-one-of-city-s-busiest-roads-1-4719189" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/major-works-to-close-one-of-city-s-busiest-roads-1-4719189</a> </p>