http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Avoid York Place: tram cable down. (chaos) en Tue, 19 May 2026 22:48:30 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282492 Sun, 13 May 2018 22:54:49 +0000 Arellcat 282492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Construction (Design &amp; Management) Regulations; and the Health &amp; Safety Commission (the Health and Safety Executive is the enforcement authority for the Commission). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282489 Sun, 13 May 2018 22:44:30 +0000 chdot 282489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.hse.gov.uk/construction/cdm/faq/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hse.gov.uk/construction/cdm/faq/index.htm</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282488 Sun, 13 May 2018 22:40:14 +0000 Frenchy 282488@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>HSC? CDM? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282487 Sun, 13 May 2018 22:34:58 +0000 Tulyar 282487@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A vehicle with an extending boom left the site with the boom exceeding the 6 metre height of the OHL (knitting) Somehow oblivious to this the driver managed to carry on onto York Place with the results seen.</p> <p>Given that all trucks &amp; buses have to clearly display the vehicle height when TRAVELLING in the cab PLUS the requirement for the vehicle's movements to be especially controlled when the vehicle height exceeds 4.88m (the height above which bridge heights are not posted (as 16ft is the limit of the envelope for normal trucks &amp; buses - double deck buses are 14'6" - maximum - a UK derogation most of mainland Europe has 4 m limit)) </p> <p>HSC will be looking closely at the St James's site gate controls &amp; CDM documentation on dispatch of vehicles on to the public road - checking that vehicle is not overloaded or has load which is dangerously exceeding width, length or height limits for safe travel, &amp; for variable height loads (eg excavators) the actual height is known &amp; displayed to the driver, and the load is secured to prevent any jib or boom from rising up during the journey.</p> <p>If, as I'd suspect this was a mobile cherry picker platform, travelling with the boom extended to over 6 metres, means no outriggers extended and pads down to keep the unit stable, and this is not a safe method of operation. If the wires hadn't yielded that truck would have toppled and the outcome might have been far worse. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282421 Sat, 12 May 2018 10:54:04 +0000 jdanielp 282421@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm guessing it wasn't wearing hi-viz? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282383 Fri, 11 May 2018 16:39:03 +0000 Snowy 282383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The cause of the accident has been deemed to be insufficient situational awareness on the part of the cable. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282327 Fri, 11 May 2018 08:31:01 +0000 crowriver 282327@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I hope the construction company are sufficiently insured to compensate Edinburgh Trams for the costs of repairing the damage and income lost through disruption. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282326 Fri, 11 May 2018 08:17:11 +0000 I were right about that saddle 282326@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Apparently Nicola Sturgeon's down there now with a toolbox. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282322 Thu, 10 May 2018 23:13:07 +0000 chdot 282322@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From an eyewitness-</p> <p>“</p> <p>Terrible mess up there.  The York Place bus stop at the church was closed for roadworks anyway, and now there are works vehicles all over the tram bit.  Loose cable visible, now anchored to the ground, but must have been dangerous when it snapped.  Hope they get it fixed soon, this part of Edinburgh is feeling increasingly cut off what with all that mess up there.....</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282321 Thu, 10 May 2018 22:14:31 +0000 chdot 282321@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282314 Thu, 10 May 2018 21:26:49 +0000 bacam 282314@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are no crossovers between Shandwick Place and York Place, so unless they're prepared to drive on the wrong side of the road they can't go any further. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282312 Thu, 10 May 2018 21:01:53 +0000 chdot 282312@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>A spokesperson from Edinburgh Trams said: “We can confirm that part route running to and from Edinburgh Airport and West End (Shandwick Place) will continue until the end of service tonight (Thursday, 10 May).</p> <p>“</p> <p>So not able to isolate power to shorter sections? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282307 Thu, 10 May 2018 20:13:34 +0000 Klaxon 282307@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The trams company has very clearly laid down process for working around the OLE: <a href="http://edinburghtrams.com/community/working-around-trams" rel="nofollow">http://edinburghtrams.com/community/working-around-trams</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282305 Thu, 10 May 2018 20:04:34 +0000 wingpig 282305@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It was already down to one lane eastbound when I went through at fourish, so there would only have been 2/3 of the potential chaos possible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282301 Thu, 10 May 2018 18:59:13 +0000 Stickman 282301@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/york-place-tram-cabling-snaps-in-collision-with-works-vehicle-1-4738018" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/york-place-tram-cabling-snaps-in-collision-with-works-vehicle-1-4738018</a></p> <p><em>"...cables above the stop on York Place came apart from the supporting pylons <strong>after a collision with a construction vehicle </strong>...</em>"</p> <p>I hope we get a full investigation to find out if the cable was to blame for the collision. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282298 Thu, 10 May 2018 18:10:13 +0000 Klaxon 282298@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The wire snapped somewhere over the junction</p> <p><a href="https://imgur.com/UnThyZm"><img src="https://imgur.com/UnThyZmm.jpg"></a></p> <p>Given at this point it is not a running wire, it should be easy enough to repair in situ with a joint. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282297 Thu, 10 May 2018 18:07:16 +0000 Klaxon 282297@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/943933166015803392/jvjasD7v_400x400.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282292 Thu, 10 May 2018 17:27:50 +0000 chdot 282292@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“I'll go for a snoop”</p> <p>Ah, at first I took that to be a technical term - a variation on droop, perhaps...! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282290 Thu, 10 May 2018 17:21:01 +0000 Klaxon 282290@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ouch, hope it wasn't a clean break. Lots of tension on the cable and if it was that'll have been a hell of a ping when it went.</p> <p>I'll go for a snoop </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18821#post-282288 Thu, 10 May 2018 17:05:22 +0000 SRD 282288@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>from twitter: </p> <p>"Tram cable down at the tram stop at York Place. Avoid that route if possible as the route to town side of York Place is closed and traffic severely backing up down Leith Walk and London Road." </p>