http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Do we need a royal wedding thread en Sun, 31 May 2026 14:44:49 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283415 Fri, 25 May 2018 14:53:52 +0000 unhurt 283415@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bax, @iwrats that is pretty cool! (what happened to the sherry?)</p> <p>Re: video - I almost hurt myself laughing at that part of T2. But then I used to have a house equidistant between two East Belfast band pubs... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283387 Fri, 25 May 2018 10:34:40 +0000 wingpig 283387@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A colleague has just noted that his GDPR email from ScotRail was late for the deadline, sent at 00:30 this morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283386 Fri, 25 May 2018 10:27:29 +0000 acsimpson 283386@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I guess they should be glad they didn't send the email today. They could have been the first GDPR breach. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283374 Fri, 25 May 2018 08:27:18 +0000 I were right about that saddle 283374@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yesterday I got one of those GDPR e-mails with the subject 'We Are Keeping Your Data Safe' but they'd sent it out to everyone so we could all see each other's e-mail addresses. One of them was for a guy I was at school with and it did trigger a bout of Google stalking. He's a lawyer in London and the best looking girl in school is a university administrator in Bournemouth and the girl who had pink hair writes novels and reviews for the Guardian and the captain of the hockey team is a Kirk minister and uses a wheelchair now but none of them seem to have risen to CCE.</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvO7HNQPFRI" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvO7HNQPFRI</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283363 Fri, 25 May 2018 07:13:47 +0000 gembo 283363@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IWRATS been touting his Aberdonian roots on here for years but one mention of the nun Sister Pope and suddenly We are putting the band back together. Makes you wonder about statistical probability </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283357 Thu, 24 May 2018 23:36:48 +0000 LaidBack 283357@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That. Is. Amazing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283356 Thu, 24 May 2018 23:14:53 +0000 minus six 283356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>above confirmed by pm</p> <p>all power to the glory of CCE</p> <p>bigger than farcebook or fiends reunited </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283329 Thu, 24 May 2018 20:42:05 +0000 minus six 283329@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@iwrats, i'm astounded that you know sister pope</p> <p>went to the grammar myself, not far from harlaw / albyn vibe</p> <p>you might be near my vintage, by the sound of it</p> <p>childrens home, late 1970s</p> <p>many now dead and gone</p> <p>higgins, wyness etc</p> <p>did you know wee johnny mackell ?</p> <p>i stole a crate of sherry, he drowned in a pond</p> <p>god bless his soul</p> <p>lena martell was playing at the capitol</p> <p>i cannnot shake these memories </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283295 Thu, 24 May 2018 15:48:44 +0000 LaidBack 283295@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>His titles will be Duke of Sussex, Earl of Dumbarton and Baron Kilkeel.</em></p> <p>Sure the good citizens of Dumbarton will be very pleased. Expect he'll drop by soon.</p> <p>Kilkeel sounds nice too - a large fishing port on the Irish Sea. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283269 Thu, 24 May 2018 10:44:18 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 283269@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.discourses.org.uk/History/TheAberdeenIncident.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.discourses.org.uk/History/TheAberdeenIncident.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283268 Thu, 24 May 2018 10:21:06 +0000 paddyirish 283268@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My Dad's parents were Plymouth Brethren. The only book allowed in the house was a bible. Dad wasn't allowed to do PE at school and a friend ended up taking his kit home and washing it for him. His father attended neither of his sister's weddings as they married men who were Baptists (just not up to scratch) and when Dad married Mum who was a mere Methodist, it must have been a slap in the face...</p> <p>My grandfather died before I was born, but when my Gran died, Dad didn't want to expose either my sister or myself to the funeral service (I remember him raging that they claimed her as their dear sister despite the fact that they had kicked out for falling asleep in one of the services).</p> <p>Not a lot of love for any Church, but I have less time for that one in particular. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283260 Thu, 24 May 2018 09:31:18 +0000 Frenchy 283260@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've now spent half an hour reading about the Brethren and related village churches, and have discovered the reason my granny went to the church ten miles away rather than the one five miles away is a bit more complicated than I'd ever have guessed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283259 Thu, 24 May 2018 09:08:45 +0000 I were right about that saddle 283259@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I was wee there was whispered talk of one of the Macduff branch of my family who joined and was never heard from again.</p> <p>Point being that faith, or lack of it, should be a private and not a state matter embodied in the sovereign. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283255 Thu, 24 May 2018 08:44:31 +0000 Frenchy 283255@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You'd better tell us which side of that divide you stand on, then.</p> <p>Edit: I hadn't heard of the Plymouth Brethren, but I've just realised that it is the same "Brethren" that has a fairly significant presence in the village nearest to where I grew up. That village is well known as being incredibly religious, but even amongst the other villagers, the Brethren had a particular reputation. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283254 Thu, 24 May 2018 08:37:51 +0000 I were right about that saddle 283254@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I grew up near too many like the clientelle of that establishment.</em></p> <p>I went to the only school in Aberdeen that offered Catholic RE, given by a nun called Sister Pope. We were so far out of the orbit of the sectarian death star that no one thought that was funny. Saw my first Orange march in my twenties. Still struggle to comprehend that people actually take this stuff seriously when everyone knows that the real divide is between the Open and Exclusive assemblies of the Plymouth Brethren. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283251 Wed, 23 May 2018 22:41:13 +0000 minus six 283251@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>aye, the PIN gag was truly exquisite </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283250 Wed, 23 May 2018 22:21:56 +0000 paddyirish 283250@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - brilliant - I grew up near too many like the clientele of that establishment.</p> <p>The PIN gag at the end of that was my favourite clip of the whole film. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283193 Wed, 23 May 2018 08:32:35 +0000 I were right about that saddle 283193@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In case anyone hasn't seen this rather glorious satyre on the Act of Settlement;</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQCpQbUrzI" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQCpQbUrzI</a></p> <p>Nothing more sectarian in it than in the law of the land as currently enacted. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283170 Tue, 22 May 2018 20:02:10 +0000 gembo 283170@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Facebook post for The Original Louden Tavern of Duke Street for the day of the last old firm game had various rules (yous remember tae drink yer bottles of Buckie before comin tae the pub et cetera)</p> <p>Looks like they lock you in whilst the other tribe comes along the street.</p> <p>Would be close to a deep circle of hell to be trapped therein? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283162 Tue, 22 May 2018 19:01:34 +0000 Nelly 283162@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"both louden and bristol pubs have been attacked past couple of weeks, one of them set alight"</p> <p>Shame......</p> <p>I always envisage the Louden as a more frightening (to the likes of me) version of the The Rangers club in Trainspotting 2. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283159 Tue, 22 May 2018 17:51:58 +0000 minus six 283159@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo</p> <p><em>I was outside the louden tavern on Sunday pm. It looked closed for business</em></p> <p>both louden and bristol pubs have been attacked past couple of weeks, one of them set alight </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283036 Mon, 21 May 2018 12:56:14 +0000 I were right about that saddle 283036@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think the financial drain of the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas is the most important element of the damage we enable them to do.</p> <p>What really bothers me about them is the conflation of wealth, religion, militarism and heredity.</p> <p>This damages them by forbidding them freedom of conscience, damages the country by both privileging one religion over others and promoting violence and damages us by instilling the belief that our own children can never be good enough to be head of state. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283035 Mon, 21 May 2018 12:06:11 +0000 crowriver 283035@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"So pretty similar set-up to UK really. "</p> <p>Not that similar at least in terms of scale.</p> <p>I hadn't realised that the UK civil list was abolished in 2010 as part of austerity. Instead revenues from the Crown Estate are put into a sovereign grant paid to the royal household which is around £42 million a year. They also get funds from the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall, over £30 million a year. Also the Queen has private wealth used for "personal expenditure" - her fortune is estimated at some £340 million though the exact figure is not publicly known.</p> <p>See here for details:</p> <p><a href="https://www.royal.uk/royal-finances-0" rel="nofollow">https://www.royal.uk/royal-finances-0</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283033 Mon, 21 May 2018 11:42:39 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 283033@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think the Danish monarchy is quite what you think it is, CR.</p> <p>"As of 1 April 2017, the Danish Civil List grants the royal family £800,813, a month, or £9.6 million for the year. Prince Henrik, the husband of Queen Margrethe, gets 10% of this, while Princess Benedikte, the Queen's sister, gets 1.5%</p> <p>The money covers the cost of the Queen's activities and the royal household's operations as well as some more private expenses.</p> <p>The royal art collections belong to the Queen in her capacity as sovereign and a private person, although large parts of the collections are on show in galleries and museums for the public to see. Some of the royal palaces are privately owned by the royal family, while some are the property of the state."</p> <p><a href="https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/this-is-how-much-money-europes-royal-families-get-from-their-taxpayers-a3603431.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/this-is-how-much-money-europes-royal-families-get-from-their-taxpayers-a3603431.html</a></p> <p>So pretty similar set-up to UK really. UK Royal Family explicit costs per capita less than any European monarchy other than Spain? But then they only got there through Franco... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283026 Mon, 21 May 2018 10:28:19 +0000 crowriver 283026@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@acsimpson, aye maybe executing the lot of them is a tad harsh. I'll drop those demands if the House of Windsor stop rubbing our collective noses in their wealth and we stop subsidising their family dos to the tune of millions of pounds.</p> <p>If the populace want to retain a constitutional monarchy (put it to a referendum) then fair enough. A republic should be an option on the ballot though. If a constitutional monarchy is what people choose then I'd settle for nationalising their private wealth and abolishing the civil list. Bucks Palace, Windsor, Sandringham, Balmoral, etc. can all become museums like the Hermitage, Versailles etc. Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster become state owned worker's co-operatives. A Danish style monarch on a bicycle, paid a diplomatic service salary for state visits etc. would be acceptable. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283014 Mon, 21 May 2018 08:35:37 +0000 gembo 283014@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was outside the louden tavern on Sunday pm. It looked closed for business. Celtic were playing Ireland at football for Scott brown's testimonial. We were on way back from Arran and dropping someone off at the match. That is certainly the louden tavern's credo. Bizarre given closeness to Parkhead but nevertheless, true.</p> <p>Markle a baptist tho not a kafflik </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283011 Mon, 21 May 2018 08:03:07 +0000 I were right about that saddle 283011@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It is objectively true that some of the happiest countries in the world are constitutional monarchies. This is of course an excellent argument for the UK of GB&amp;NI to join their ranks.</p> <p>Although I am a committed republican, when the time comes if people want a monarch in this country I won't lose sleep over it provided we chose our own. The present outfit is every bit as sectarian as the Louden Tavern on a Saturday afternoon;</p> <p><em>And it was thereby further enacted That all and every Person and Persons that then were or afterwards should be reconciled to or shall hold Communion with the See or Church of Rome or should professe the Popish Religion should be excluded and are by that Act made for ever incapable to inherit possess or enjoy the Crown and Government of this Realm and Ireland and the Dominions thereunto belonging or any part of the same or to have use or exercise any regall Power Authority or Jurisdiction within the same. And in all and every such Case and Cases the People of these Realms shall be and are thereby absolved of their Allegiance And that the said Crown and Government shall from time to time descend to and be enjoyed by such Person or Persons being Protestants as should have inherited and enjoyed the same in case the said Person or Persons so reconciled holding Communion professing as aforesaid were naturally dead.</em></p> <p>'Naturally dead' is a nice touch. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283010 Mon, 21 May 2018 08:00:04 +0000 Nelly 283010@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>To bring a touch of levity back...........</p> <p>Thought this was tres amusing - and wont offend anyone</p> <p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=66x4XhU0muk">Meghan Glasgow Style</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283006 Sun, 20 May 2018 23:18:11 +0000 minus six 283006@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wee folding bike</p> <p>excellent segue sir, well played </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18840&page=2#post-283005 Sun, 20 May 2018 23:18:09 +0000 Rosie 283005@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Constitutional monarchies work pretty well as a form of government - Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Holland, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark still have a royal head of state, however irrational this look like on paper. It's this kind of razzmatazz that makes it look sillier than it is. I avoided the shindig yesterday however saw the 3 minute highlights to catch Megan's very becoming dress.</p> <p>Don't mind people partying for this kind of patriotism as it's a light-hearted affair, and everyone likes a wedding. </p> <p>The last one I was cycling in England - staying in Saffron Walden with a friend. We went out for a cycle and the pretty villages looked very jolly hung with bunting, there were Maypole dances and Union Flag iced cakes and it was cheery and good-tempered. In the end we were miffed we had not joined in with the local street party and drunk beer and eaten sausages with the neighbours. </p>