http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Lost key to frame lock - suggestions? en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:49:37 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-355257 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:58:58 +0000 le_soigneur 355257@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/0nVfCM8Xrgs62XAxHw0GUY?domain=youtube.com">Wafer lock picking technique</a> (there are other examples)" if you want to learn a new skill &amp; tools needed for future use releasing bikes without endangering the frame. And have the dexterity &amp; patience. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-355255 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:36:24 +0000 Frenchy 355255@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Know any Dutch teenagers? A Dutch lecturer I met once told me that after losing his key, he'd been standing beside his bike pondering what to do. One of his students walked past, and offered to help. It was open in seconds, apparently.</p> <p>"I don't think it was the first time he'd done that..." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-355254 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:33:27 +0000 LaidBack 355254@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes - have done that before from NL supplier.</p> <p>Mind you site says this... suppose if people could read a number on someone else's lock then it would be insecure.</p> <p>I'm going to see if manufacturer has a recors of lock supplied.</p> <p><blockquote>You can only order keys based on the number that is stated on your bicycle key. Unfortunately, it is not possible to order a key with the number stated on the lock or for non-AXA keys.</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-355252 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:25:53 +0000 Morningsider 355252@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is it an AXA lock - you can order new keys using the number on the lock:</p> <p><a href="https://keyservice.axasecurity.com/en-GB" rel="nofollow">https://keyservice.axasecurity.com/en-GB</a></p> <p>No idea how long they take to arrive mind. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-355248 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:11:38 +0000 LaidBack 355248@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@greenroofer</p> <p>Yes - wondered if bolt cutters might be able to get into.</p> <p>I've asked Harts Cyclery too.<br /> McLarens call out is £70 and can't do till next week. I took a frame lock in to show them - new type of lock for them. Can't drill out lock as has bits to catch drill. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-355244 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 16:40:08 +0000 Greenroofer 355244@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like frame locks because they are very hard to get at. The downside is that they don't prevent the thief carrying off the bike (although with a UA, Tern GSD/HSD or an Elephant Bike they won't get far).</p> <p>The 'hard to get at' thing will make cutting it off difficult. Might large bolt croppers be less risky? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-355219 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 12:05:55 +0000 LaidBack 355219@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This turned up when you search for 'Cutting frame lock on bike'.</p> <p>Customer has lost key for frame lock on cargo trike. I daresay Bicycle Works could lend me an angle grinder but just wondered how easy it is to remove and access the bit to cut. Assume as item is bolted to bike then it would be sound to cut at the left hand side and the steel loop will drop out.</p> <p>Then unbolt lock from frame. Never done before - a first considering number of bikes with frame locks sold. This one didn't have a record of key number. UAs do on invoice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289340 Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:34:59 +0000 Greenroofer 289340@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spent 25 minutes with an angle grinder this morning removing the defective and un-openable Hiplok Homie from my commuter bicycle. I used most of a cutting disc in the process and have filled the bike shed with ferrous dust, which is clinging to everything.</p> <p>It took a surprisingly long time to cut the chain, partly because it was slow going and partly because I was taking care to avoid cutting the bike at the same time. I imagine an angle grinder goes through aluminium bike tubes like a knife through butter...</p> <p>The multinational online shop with an aggressive tax avoidance approach from whom I bought it have agreed that they are going to receive it back in pieces. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289302 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:21:53 +0000 acsimpson 289302@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I assume you mean the Mhor. I rode the Beag earlier in the year but can't make the longer event. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289293 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 21:00:45 +0000 recombodna 289293@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Heh heh yeah you can never truly leave CCE..... my inherent fear of appearing in the rubbish driving thread keeps my senses honed on a daily basis. I do keep up to date with Laidback.<br /> Anyone doing the Bealach this year ..;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289255 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 13:00:03 +0000 Greenroofer 289255@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spent 25 minutes this morning trying to open the brand new lock on my commuter bike, using all three of the keys I have for it. No luck. Arrived very late at work on a different bike. </p> <p>I will have another go tonight. Luckily I have an angle grinder, but this is a Sold Secure Gold lock that cost over £100, so getting it off won't be trivial. Then it's going back to the shop (in pieces if need be).</p> <p>Grrr. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289244 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:54:14 +0000 SRD 289244@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>#monCCE! (you never really leave...) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289220 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 00:03:57 +0000 recombodna 289220@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This bike has now been cut free from its oppressive shackles. It required removing the rack from the bike and going in very carefully with a 1mm cutting disc. The safety guard also had to be removed from the grinder in order to gain access to the lock.<br /> All good and the bike lives to commute another day and I still have all my fingers.... . #monthebikes #monthevandrivers </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289149 Sun, 19 Aug 2018 19:55:33 +0000 piosad 289149@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks @Greenroofer @chrisfl! Unfortunately it's now at work, but I am exploring some avenues. I might get back to you if they fail and I transport it closer to home. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289100 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 22:45:47 +0000 chrisfl 289100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We also have a Angle Grinder, happy to drop round and see what we can do. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289094 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 18:18:08 +0000 Greenroofer 289094@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>...of course that assumes that the bike is locked at your house or within carrying distance of another power source! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289093 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 18:17:16 +0000 Greenroofer 289093@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have a corded angle grinder you can borrow. It's got CCE 'form', having previously been used to re-engineer Morningsider's pram... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289087 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 17:38:45 +0000 Frenchy 289087@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The tool library will have angle grinders you can borrow for free (membership by donation), instead of buying one. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289084 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:45:19 +0000 EdinburghCycleCam 289084@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was there not some place like the bicycle cooperative who would remove it for free / really cheap if you could prove it was your bike? Or am I mis-remembering..? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289072 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:38:03 +0000 crowriver 289072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Angle grinder from Argos for much cheapness. New frame lock. More hassle but costs less than locksmith equivalent. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289070 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:25:35 +0000 steveo 289070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IWRATS has on occasion been able to provide such a service, though I've not seen him around much recently. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19055#post-289068 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:20:21 +0000 piosad 289068@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So I have done the double stupid thing where I have lost the spare key to my AXA Defender frame lock AND do not have the key number to order a spare key. Random locksmiths are offering to get it dealt with for something like £60, which puts me in mind of acquiring a cheap angle grinder for half that (but being neither a homeowner or a DIY enthusiast I am not confident this will not result in the destruction of the bicycle). Any other suggestions I am missing? </p>