http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Transport and Travel in Scotland 2017 en Sun, 31 May 2026 14:03:40 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290293 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:52:57 +0000 chdot 290293@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-accused-of-green-window-dressing-as-scottish-government-reveals-programme-1-4794344" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-accused-of-green-window-dressing-as-scottish-government-reveals-programme-1-4794344</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290287 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:25:20 +0000 chdot 290287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Very alarming but depressingly familiar complacency from government as per usual.”</p> <p>Yep, </p> <p>It’s ‘understandable’ that they play to their voting base, but it certainly doesn’t show understanding/leadership by a Gov that pretends it cares about Climate Change. </p> <p>It’s pure (road building) ‘business as usual’ without any concern about cost benefit analyses, public health issues, NHS demands due to unhealthy population, induced demand etc. etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290286 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:16:52 +0000 chdot 290286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.bikebiz.com/landscape/walking-and-cycling-key-to-tackling-poor-air-quality-in-birmingham-says-sustrans" rel="nofollow">https://www.bikebiz.com/landscape/walking-and-cycling-key-to-tackling-poor-air-quality-in-birmingham-says-sustrans</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290285 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 17:11:03 +0000 Frenchy 290285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Micht stull be some bitties o it far a fishin boatie wid beat yir fowre be fowre, bit they're fyow an far atween. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290282 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:50 +0000 I were right about that saddle 290282@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Frenchy loon, I've thocht on't an yer richt. Nae wye. Fae the golden streets o' Bieldside tae the hippy commune o' Fitty Aiberdeen's jist Motor City. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290280 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:29:07 +0000 Frenchy 290280@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Far wid it nae? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290279 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:12:15 +0000 I were right about that saddle 290279@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@sallyhinch</p> <p>Aberdeen is extraordinary. If a brand new white 4x4 stood for election to the council it would win in most wards. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290274 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:40:20 +0000 sallyhinch 290274@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I hadn't realised quite how bad the AWPR was but it's actively endangering a formerly safe route <a href="https://pedalonparliament.org/want-safer-cycling-in-aberdeen-demo-this-sunday/" rel="nofollow">https://pedalonparliament.org/want-safer-cycling-in-aberdeen-demo-this-sunday/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290273 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:35:42 +0000 crowriver 290273@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's something deeply wrong with transport priorities and policy in Scotland. Very alarming but depressingly familiar complacency from government as per usual. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290266 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 14:45:02 +0000 Morningsider 290266@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well, nothing new for cycling and walking in the <a href="https://www.gov.scot/Resource/0053/00539972.pdf">Programme for Government</a>. Quite noticeable puffery for the £17m for electric vehicles, charging points etc. While quickly skirting over the £7,000,000,000 on three road schemes (AWPR, A9 and A96 dualling) and the impact these will have on the viability of public and active transport. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290262 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 14:24:40 +0000 Roibeard 290262@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>&lt;Shrug&gt; Trends in "how did you used to travel and how do you travel now?" (table 10) continue with minor variations. You could switch the tables from any of the last three annual reports and they'd look the same.</p> <p>Those that drive, continue to drive; those that didn't drive are most likely to switch to driving, even car passengers!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290245 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:42:48 +0000 neddie 290245@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"We" keeping shouting about it. But the government keeps doing the opposite: <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19083" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19083</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290243 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:38:43 +0000 gembo 290243@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Carmageddon </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19086#post-290242 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:27:45 +0000 I were right about that saddle 290242@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Surely this;</p> <p><a href="https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/43105/sct08183658301.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/43105/sct08183658301.pdf</a></p> <p>and @Morningsider's summary of it;</p> <p><em>highest ever volume of road traffic<br /> highest proportion of all trips by car<br /> highest ever number of licensed vehicles<br /> 66% of car trips were single occupancy<br /> lowest ever proportion of trips on foot<br /> lowest ever number of recorded bus journeys<br /> highest ever number of air passengers</em></p> <p>merits a thread?</p> <p>Should not all active travel campaigners (including me in my small way) fundamentally rethink their ideas and practice in light of these figures? What we are doing is simply not working. It could even be argued that what we are doing is exacerbating the problem. </p>