http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “Elderly residents offered speed guns in new road safety initiative” en Sun, 31 May 2026 14:04:50 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291652 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:15:27 +0000 crowriver 291652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Certainement! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291651 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:08:06 +0000 chdot 291651@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don’t you mean -</p> <p>"soyez réalistes, demandez l'impossible" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291646 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:46:10 +0000 crowriver 291646@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>First reference is probably bax, 6 years ago:<br /> ---</p> <p>pre-poP APRE_PoP</p> <p>68</p> <p>Under the cobblestones, the beach !</p> <p>---</p> <p>Also:</p> <p>---</p> <p>The SI was dissolved in 72</p> <p>but the PoP lives on</p> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International</a></p> <p>---</p> <p>I then responded thus:</p> <p>'My favourite Situationist slogan: "Be Realistic. Demand the impossible". '</p> <p>In the Post #POP28 thread:</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6261" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6261</a></p> <p>---</p> <p>I repeated said slogan 5 years ago, the post just above bdellar's...</p> <p>Also, 4 years ago, gembo:</p> <p>"Some googling suggests bobby appears to be a NO. Primal Scream's last album namechecked Marx, Engels and guy Debord. " in "White Paper (THE #indyref thread)":</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11722&amp;page=40" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11722&amp;page=40</a></p> <p>---</p> <p>3 years ago, IWRATS:</p> <p>"I've often wondered who would use the cycle path at the Cameron Toll roundabout. It has the look of a Situationist installation more than a piece of transport infrastructure. "</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13452" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13452</a></p> <p>---</p> <p>1 year ago, chdot:</p> <p>"Psychogeography is an approach to geography that emphasizes playfulness and "drifting" around urban environments. It has links to the Situationist International."</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15603" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15603</a></p> <p>---</p> <p>Hah! Apple autocorrect changed Debord into Debora in my post two hours ago. Little by little, the Spectacle eliminates all resistance... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291620 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:10:45 +0000 slowcoach 291620@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9687&amp;page=7#post-119437">"I'm still with the Situationists on this."</a> bdellar, 5years ago, on Leith Walk: revised plans </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291612 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:31:01 +0000 crowriver 291612@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hm, I wonder if that is the first mention of Guy Debora or the Situationists on CCE? I suspect not, though I don't have a link handy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291568 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:51:19 +0000 I were right about that saddle 291568@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.antiworld.se/project/references/texts/The_Society%20_Of%20_The%20_Spectacle.pdf">The whole life of those societies in which modern conditions of production prevail presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles. All that once was directly lived has become mere representation.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291566 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:40:48 +0000 slowcoach 291566@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"... trialled in Fife"</p> <p>Also used in <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-32712293">Highlands </a> ("first of its kind in Scotland", 2015), <a href="https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-courier-advertiser-perth-and-perthshire-edition/20140102/281595238368570">Perth and Kinross</a>, 2013,<br /> <a href="http://www.wctrs-society.com/wp-content/uploads/abstracts/berkeley/G6/189/Microsoft%20Word%20-%20WTCCRSISWJUNE07.pdf">Renfrewshire</a>,<br /> 2007?, and <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3210723.stm">East Dunbartonshire </a> 2003</p> <p>Being a pensioner doesn't seem to be a requirement for volunteers. <a href="http://www.scotland.police.uk/assets/pdf/290291/community-speed-watch">Fife </a> says 18 or over. Another place said as long as they are old enough to drive (17 or over). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291479 Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:44:49 +0000 ejstubbs 291479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting that Cllr Arthur highlights Buckstone Terrace. My personal experience is that, on the stretch between the parade of shops and the lights at Fairmilehead, it's rare bordering on unknown for traffic to move at anything closely approaching the 40mph limit (except perhaps during the night when the road is less busy). I suspect that if/when the crossing/traffic light controlled junction is introduced adjacent to the Waterfield development then there will be even less scope for people to make illegally swift progress.</p> <p>If he means the 20mph section from the junction by the shops as far as Buckstone Drive then it's a fair enough point. (Although he ought to know the detail of the road names in his constituency a bit better.) People used to take the p!ss along there, and its continuation along Braid Road as far as the Hermitage, even when it was a 30mph limit.</p> <p>Sadly, I suspect the point made in some of the comments about the risks to speed gun-wielding pensioners from entitled gammons may have some validity. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291470 Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:13:13 +0000 Frenchy 291470@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If there are willing volunteers, then let them loose! I assume (naively?) that the police would use the results to better focus officers' time and resources, as well. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19126#post-291463 Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:01:05 +0000 chdot 291463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Headline writer seems to have a problem with older people.</p> <p>(Also interesting comments by a councillor.)</p> <p> <a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/elderly-residents-offered-speed-guns-in-new-road-safety-initiative-1-4801398" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/elderly-residents-offered-speed-guns-in-new-road-safety-initiative-1-4801398</a> </p>