http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Well, stone me... en Tue, 19 May 2026 17:53:36 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297434 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:13:53 +0000 minus six 297434@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>for me it isn't drink/drug driving thats the problem</p> <p>the problem is routine flaunting of traffic signals and speed limits</p> <p>if you are off your tits while driving within legal signals and limits, its likely to be okay, far less concern than a driver who routinely speeds or ignores traffic signals</p> <p>the unacceptable blur is that, through lack of enforcement, the "otherwise law-abiding" motorist has been encouraged to regard the legal limits as weak guidelines that they can disregard as being unnecessary for a "competent" driver</p> <p>so the social norm is for ALL drivers to disregard the law, whether they've had X [drug] or not</p> <p>ie. drug driving is a red herring</p> <p>what they are really saying is, "we can break the law, but you can't"</p> <p>there's plenty legally sanctified SSRI drugs such as amitriptylin, gabapentin etc that should also cause concern, but for the widespread hypocrisy surrounding road traffic offenses generally </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297433 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:53:02 +0000 gkgk 297433@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>THe article's a bit confusing - talking about screening and percentages - this year's campaign caught 1118 drug drivers, last year 1084, year before 1028. Pretty steady. The number of tests they actually do has reduced, so the fail rates increase. Just reflects how certain they are before getting the kit out of the bag. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297426 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:03:53 +0000 gembo 297426@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chap cycling along smoking single skinner tonight at Lothian road</p> <p>The Air is often pungent on my commute, someone regular drives the route whilst partaking of The Herb, or several of them </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297419 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:32:23 +0000 crowriver 297419@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, this really does not surprise me at all. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297415 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:42:41 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 297415@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS</p> <p>Likewise, all too regularly. When it takes them about 3 seconds to go from annoyed shout to rage filled wide eyed ranting, I back off!</p> <p>When confronted by taxi drivers the first question I always ask is "is that alcohol I can smell on your breath?" its quite alarming how many of them just swear and drive off! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297410 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:12:33 +0000 I were right about that saddle 297410@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@EdinburghCycleTraining</p> <p>I've certainly been shouted at by motorists quite clearly aff their nuts. Mephedrone style. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297405 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 13:26:04 +0000 miak 297405@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>duuude ... made me smile yesterday saw a young cyclist yesterday afternoon at cramond brig having a wee rest and a drag of the old whacky baccie ......next to the water and bridge ... took me back to my youth.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19326#post-297403 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 13:22:52 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 297403@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No real surprise TBH, the general driving standards out there are really, really poor and i've no reason to believe we wouldn't see similar figures up here...</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/10/half-of-motorists-fail-drug-driving-tests-in-england-and-wales" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/10/half-of-motorists-fail-drug-driving-tests-in-england-and-wales</a> </p>