http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: parking on the meadows... en Tue, 19 May 2026 13:52:57 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-312001 Sun, 04 Aug 2019 18:22:41 +0000 gembo 312001@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The cricketers were all parked on the grass too. Sponsored by the excellent restuarant Roti. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-311979 Sun, 04 Aug 2019 13:25:08 +0000 neddie 311979@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I see that the sugary-palm-fat-emporium has taken to parking in the middle of the Meadows, engine running continuously...</p> <p>Instead of the usual spot on the hardstanding behind the cafe / playpark, which was bad enough for poisoning children with fumes and sugar.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2gNkdFV"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48438352691_209f3d2162.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2gNkdFV">Untitled</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/bonsai_bonus/">Ed</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298673 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 12:09:59 +0000 Frenchy 298673@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Morningsider - Ta! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298671 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 12:02:34 +0000 SRD 298671@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>two or three years ago, my new year's resolution was to count and report all the vehicles i saw in the meadows on my commutes through. I gave up after 4 months. too much. too depressing. no action. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298670 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:51:06 +0000 Trixie 298670@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sounds like a job for the twitters if the van has a logo on it. </p> <p>On a similar theme, the dog walker van at Seafield/Porty seems to have a key for the vehicle gate*. How? Why? </p> <p>*I did not witness them go through but they stopped smack in front of the gate (blocking the right hand gap), I tutted and weaved round. When I looked a few mins later, they were on the other side of the closed gate. Perhaps it was never locked or maybe they apparate. They still should not be there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298668 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:29:35 +0000 Morningsider 298668@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Parking a motorised vehicle in an Edinburgh park, without Council permission, contravenes the <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/62/management_rules_for_parks_and_greenspaces.pdf">Park Management Rules</a>. Enforcement is a matter for the Council, although the powers available under the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982 are feeble. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298664 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 10:49:40 +0000 Frenchy 298664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I don’t know if police can be involved unless asked by CEC.</p> <p>Even then I’m sure they would be reluctant. </em></p> <p>In theory, I'd've thought they should be able to respond to a complaint from any member of the public. In practice, they can't be bothered/don't have the resources*.</p> <p>Perhaps better to complain to the council, who may hope to get an extra few pounds/week by convincing the fitness folk to park in a Pay &amp; Display bay?</p> <p>*Delete as appropriate. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298659 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 10:32:38 +0000 gembo 298659@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, friends of the meadows? Very against barbecues but never heard them on illegal parking before?</p> <p>I would have thought the army simulators would force you to carry the kit from their vans. The issue is less in the carrying and more in the fact they will have to pay to park. </p> <p>A better thing would be for them to cycle using an urban arrow or similar and then we would be happy. Friends of the meadows might be less happy? They are mostly concerned with the vegetation or the keeping of the space as a green area (both concerns of which I am supportive).</p> <p>Widening the discussion only very slightly, I find it dispiriting that any time there is any chance of a bit of illegal parking then someone will do it. So the little pavilion cafe had multiple vehicles for a time at the meadows and the leamington lift bridge had regular repeat offenders. Widening slightly further we get my gentleman farmer outside the boozer and then slightly further we get all the vans illegally parked at roseburn.</p> <p>This cheeky parking is often ignored or even admired by some. Whereas I would want clamping or towing for repeat offenders? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298658 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 10:26:04 +0000 neddie 298658@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think it's the carrying of the gear that's the issue.</p> <p>It's the "I can park here for free" instead of paying £2/hr (a cost which they should really pass on to their customers) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298657 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 10:24:51 +0000 chdot 298657@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well played Frenchy. </p> <p>Sensible question. </p> <p>I don’t know if police can be involved unless asked by CEC. </p> <p>Even then I’m sure they would be reluctant. </p> <p>It’s <em>possible</em> CEC has given permission. </p> <p>Might be worth contacting <a href="http://www.fombl.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fombl.org.uk/</a> they will know what <em>ought</em> to happen, and will be unhappy/concerned about unauthorised parking - and some of the permitted events. </p> <p>Membership is only £5 - <a href="http://www.fombl.org.uk/FOMBLleaflet.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fombl.org.uk/FOMBLleaflet.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298655 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 10:21:59 +0000 ejstubbs 298655@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a degree of irony in the very existence of "fitness" instructors who are too bloomin' lazy to carry their gear a few hundred yards from a legal parking place to the bit of public space they want to temporarily co-opt for their business.</p> <p>Although I do rather wonder whether these folks aren't at least <em>supposed</em> to operate there under some kind of permit? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298652 Fri, 04 Jan 2019 10:11:43 +0000 Frenchy 298652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I realise the thread derailment has a significant tailwind, but I'm interested in the original question...</p> <p>Who <em>is</em> responsible for enforcement of parking on the Meadows paths? Police? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298637 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:03:01 +0000 gembo 298637@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@arellcat, yes rules beyond rules 1 and 2, rules that nobody else knows.</p> <p>I did like when we played Morningside Crescent </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298636 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:51:33 +0000 Arellcat 298636@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gembo is the type of person who could play Mornington Crescent and probably win, if it weren't also for chdot who could play Mornington Crescent and outmanoeuvre Gembo by way of actually knowing all the rules and using them to advantage. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298635 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:23:49 +0000 chdot 298635@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>CCE Rule 9c applies. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298634 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:20:56 +0000 gembo 298634@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I thought it was IWRATS who derailed the thread then </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298633 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 19:07:15 +0000 chdot 298633@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"the most CCE thread of the year award"</p> <p>CCE Rule 9b excludes threads where gembo is implicated in deviation.*</p> <p>*This is because impartial judges can’t be expected to rule on whether the deviation is deliberate or inevitable. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298631 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:58:26 +0000 chdot 298631@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Maybe not”</p> <p>No no, you were right first time - <em>everything</em> links up in your mind. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298630 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:47:05 +0000 gembo 298630@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I thought there was a link between the illegally parked fitness instructors on the meadows and the illegally parked gentleman farmer outside the boozer? Maybe not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298629 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 18:41:49 +0000 miak 298629@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was lost half way through my own post ... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298624 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:57:35 +0000 dougal 298624@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thread "drift" implies a certainly meandering separation from the original topic. Even "derailment" implies the train of thought is at least near the tracks. This was more of a thread "space launch", blasting as far and as fast away from the original point as possible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298622 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:25:41 +0000 ARobComp 298622@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I see we're getting early entries for the "the most CCE thread of the year award" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298613 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 14:02:25 +0000 gembo 298613@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No, apparently the skinny banker spilt the pint of the prop forward who props up the bar near the door. The skinny banker being landed gentry did not feel inclined to replace the pint given general hustle and bustle in the bar but the prop forward insisted.</p> <p>@iwrats let us sit by the fire and plot revolution one winter's night in Kay's.</p> <p>The bar has those handy wee hooks fur yer jaiket which the Young ones with me were most taken with. This was lucky as I was boiling in my cold weather tweed suit. It is lined so warmer but less itchy than my regular tweed suit which would have made me suffer terribly for my art. As it was too hot even for the itchy one. I did have some success in persuading the lovely bar staff to switch off the feckin heater above the door given the heat emanating from the coal fire.</p> <p>The bar was open until one am on Hogmanay. I could have stayed but had to pick up the tab at chez Jules where I also picked up the terrible priest/Xmas tree joke which was so bad my rubbish French was able to comprehend. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298610 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 13:26:09 +0000 I were right about that saddle 298610@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>works for RBS big tall skinny cyclist. (Last person to have a fight in Kay's bar</em></p> <p>A razor fight with balaclavas? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298608 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 13:15:45 +0000 gembo 298608@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ragingbike, nah, you have to be able to Witness The Fitness to park illegally like that.</p> <p>I was in my favourite wee stage set Edinburgh new town boozer Hogmanay. The mighty if tiny Kay's Bar. The bar staff were incredibly interested in my shirt but it turned out my brother in law had bought them both a drink. He had got there first.</p> <p>Anyway, I arrived and was somehow immediately mistaken for a merchant banker by guy called Guy who is a gentleman farmer. He had a massive and incredibly clean four by four parked outside the bar. I assume illegally as he was out often enough checking for the wardens and smoking tabs. I am guessing once they clocked off for Hogmanay the parking would be free for several days. Guy also claimed that the four by four had been on the farm at 5 a.m. And had just been cleaned. I admired the cleanliness tremendously. Guy starts chatting about a bloke I know who works for RBS big tall skinny cyclist. (Last person to have a fight in Kay's bar). Turns out just same occupation and same name, different bloke as my cycling buddy is not landed gentry.</p> <p>About 25 years ago in the Oxford Bar I was mistaken by a group of small business people as the person responsible for developing the Gyle Centre. Maybe the same guy? That night I kept up the pretence for a long time and ended up with various business cards for people who actually wanted a space in the gyle shopping centre, you cannot give them away now. Maybe I am a bad person? Not as bad as my doppleganger tho. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19366#post-298606 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 12:31:22 +0000 miak 298606@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I cycle past 'fitness instructor 'vans parked on the meadows, sometimes on the grass, sometimes on the hard top. I was wondering if everyone is permitted to park there now or is it just if you are hard enough? </p>