http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “ ‘Walkers are middle aged, hikers are cool’ “ en Sun, 31 May 2026 12:05:43 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-312892 Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:47:34 +0000 acsimpson 312892@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Should this be posted in the Sentient Beings thread too?</p> <p>I hope the machinery has good eye sight. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-312665 Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:30:50 +0000 gembo 312665@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The bush walker could have corrected dependant to dependent too? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-312659 Sun, 18 Aug 2019 11:47:43 +0000 bill 312659@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Minor edit</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2gZxJNQ"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48565276812_d220bb63aa.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2gZxJNQ">Bushwalkers</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/147968794@N07/">Bill Harriman</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310773 Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:44:31 +0000 Rosie 310773@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bill - individual sandflies do seem to be bigger and nastier than midges (cf rugby teams) - however midges go about in clouds.</p> <p>@steveo - terrifying thought, mutant sandmidges. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310770 Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:04:16 +0000 steveo 310770@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As long as they never interbreed! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310769 Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:02:50 +0000 bill 310769@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Rosie in a battle of sandflies vs. midges which do you think would win? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310760 Tue, 16 Jul 2019 01:54:11 +0000 Tulyar 310760@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'll just stick with ma wee daundering aboot . </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310741 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:10:15 +0000 gembo 310741@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You flanneur </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310738 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:34:02 +0000 I were right about that saddle 310738@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>But I frown upon this.</em></p> <p>Indeed. The correct verb for moving around the Scottish landscape is 'to stravaig'. Locally this can become 'to realm'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310737 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:17:22 +0000 Morningsider 310737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I love it - "...a five mile hike". I've walked further then that to reach the start of "a walk". I suppose it's all good though - I love being outdoors and its good to see young people doing likewise, even if their need to photograph everything is a bit tiresome. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310728 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:16:05 +0000 Rosie 310728@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>(joins in shaking her head at the younger generation)</p> <p>“Hiking” i.e. long walks, was popular with young people in the 1950s. Often involving youth hostels.</p> <p><a href="https://www.advertisingarchivesprints.co.uk/john-bull/john-bull-1958-1950s-uk-holidays-hiking-walking-7071493.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.advertisingarchivesprints.co.uk/john-bull/john-bull-1958-1950s-uk-holidays-hiking-walking-7071493.html</a></p> <p>“Hiking” now to me has American connotations of doing the Appalachian trail, carrying sleeping bags and food.</p> <p>We did tramping in New Zealand, which means walking through the bush for several days with supplies, staying in huts or camping. When I described hill-walking to New Zealand tramping friends, they said, But what is there to see? Meaning, that there were no trees. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310713 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:22:09 +0000 crowriver 310713@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Hillwalking has a typically British understated connotation"</p> <p>Yeah that might be why the instagram selfie takers featured in the Graun article don't like the term. I'm imagining that they don't "do" understatement, instead Everything Is Overstated With Exclamation Marks And Totally Inspiring!!! I note also that most of the brand and marketing references in the article were fashion industry centric, save for a couple of key <strike>lifestyle</strike> mountaineering/hiking gear brands. Oh and somewhat anachronistically, the Ramblers Association gets a plug.</p> <p>Is this a bit like that moment when young people started getting into beards, wooly jumpers and smoking pipes? (Well maybe not that last one). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310702 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 10:26:30 +0000 steveo 310702@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah I suspect its the <strike>American </strike> internet influence. </p> <p>Hillwalking has a typically British understated connotation though, a month long trek across Scotland, 'bagging or a wander in the Pentlands traditionally comes under the same banner.</p> <p>With the internet and international forums and simple written communication I think comes this drive to label and define every aspect of a past time. Touring has split into bikepacking, road touring, cc touring etc. I think it just saves time to use one word to fairly accurately bucket everything.</p> <p>The marketing people do push this too of course. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310701 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 10:15:10 +0000 bill 310701@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Before I moved to Australia I thought that 'hiking' was the right word to use to describe my activity of walking, which involves climbing up and down. Then I learned that in Australia you 'bushwalk' and I became a bushwalker. I found it very amusing to learn that people here 'hillwalk' (but it makes sense). Now I say go on walks. 'Hike' to me sounds American and carries a message that it's a tough activity for tough people (when it usually isn't).</p> <p>I noticed recently that Mr Bill started saying 'hiking' when talking to other people about our walks. He reckons that it gives people better idea of the sort of walks we do. But I frown upon this.</p> <p>One of the Blue Mountains bushwalkers and a member of the volunteers rescue team runs a <a href="https://lotsafreshair.com/">blog</a>. When she was analysing search data, it turned out that 'hiking' was definitely a more popular search word than 'bushwalking'. So to get more exposure she uses now both... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310682 Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:10:33 +0000 crowriver 310682@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo, except you can charge a fair bit more for "craft beer". Presumably that's also the difference between "hiking equipment" and whatever "walkers" use.</p> <p>Then it's marketed to young people as the essential difference that sets them apart from uncool oldies... I suppose the narcissistic impulses set in train by social media are easily fed by this approach. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310680 Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:32:40 +0000 gembo 310680@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Same as difference twixt craft beer and real ale (nowt) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19725#post-310674 Sun, 14 Jul 2019 12:55:32 +0000 chdot 310674@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jul/14/hiking-walking-younger-generation-ramblers" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jul/14/hiking-walking-younger-generation-ramblers</a> </p>