http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Day time lights en Tue, 19 May 2026 13:15:00 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314865 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:06:35 +0000 gembo 314865@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Frenchy yes unless there is a white taxi parked on double yellows further down at the dropped kerb taking you on to the meadows path. Which there was. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314851 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:31:56 +0000 Frenchy 314851@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>the Ratckliffe Tce bike lane had nothing parked on the double yellow</em> </p> <p>That's one of the signs of the apocalypse, isn't it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314849 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:26:34 +0000 gembo 314849@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No lights on today and no trouble. In astonishing news the Ratckliffe Tce bike lane had nothing parked on the double yellow </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314835 Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:42:18 +0000 gembo 314835@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today i was driven at by a van coming out of Allan Park heading for the codfather/dominos. If only i had my lights on the driver would have seen me. Oh wait, yeah I did have my lights on, made no difference. Straight into the yellow box he went perpendicular to direction of the other vehicles including me and there he stayed until some seconds later the lights changed and he could leave the box.</p> <p>There is of course no way of identifying drivers who are corrected in their rubbish manoeuvres by bike lights. I think small per cent. I think a bigger per cent just cant see and drive badly all the time and then i think a bigger per cent do see you or at least the car behind you. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314761 Tue, 24 Sep 2019 09:39:04 +0000 I were right about that saddle 314761@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Slowing down and stopping pedaling until they had stopped turning right was what I did</em></p> <p>I endorse this technique. Might even have stolen it from you. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314760 Tue, 24 Sep 2019 09:36:13 +0000 gembo 314760@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Driver tried to right hook me at the Riccarton Arms junction this morning. Even though I had gone for the staring them in the eyes, I was a bit far away, think I better start running lights during daytime, Oh wait I did have my lights on this morning as it was a bit dull</p> <p>Slowing down and stopping pedalling until they had stopped turning right was what I did</p> <p>Lot of bad driving, bad cycliong and bad pedestrians in the light rain this morning </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314755 Tue, 24 Sep 2019 07:10:47 +0000 wingpig 314755@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"...will they also have a radar ping broadcast to all nearby robots?"</em></blockquote></p> <p>Unless it was an April Fool, wasn't there a potential thing where Volvos would warn their drivers of nearby cyclists using the appropriate app, or vice versa? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314753 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 23:00:38 +0000 acsimpson 314753@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I seem to recall an earlier discussion where someone said all new cars must know have DRLs.</p> <p>As said above this is addressing the symptom and risks opening the door to victim blaming. Well we see a future where bikes are required to have DRLs and if so will they also have a radar ping broadcast to all nearby robots? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314750 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 21:16:19 +0000 the canuck 314750@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>i use daytime lights in a car all the time--the human eye sees light, then movement, then colour. lights can give oncoming drivers several extra seconds of reaction time.<br /> so on a less than optimum day, i'm happy to have them on my bike--especially in the rain. it's less for drivers and more for other cyclists, as i'm often on the paths and i notice how many of us have our heads down in the rain.</p> <p>"My usual lights have a day mode (bright double flash every so often) - no idea if they help but I’d like to think they might be useful at catching people’s eye at roundabouts/junctions"</p> <p>i think i've seen these, and they're really weird. i noticed it the first time because i thought there was a bike heading towards me at dusk, and then it disappeared--on a path! suddenly, very near me, the light flashed again. i've seen these since, and find the gap between flashes counter-intuitive and difficult to guage how far away the light source is. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314746 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:24:51 +0000 gembo 314746@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cyclealex, I like to catch people’s eyes with my eyes at junctions. Long hard Paddington stare to stop them driving at me </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314741 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 16:46:15 +0000 sallyhinch 314741@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I see enough drivers who clearly have the sun in their eyes to keep my dynamo lights on all the time now. It's slightly sobering to realise how invisible even a car is, if you're squinting at it into the glare, especially if the road is wet. No substitute for drivers ensuring they can see properly, obviously, but with a hub dynamo it's no noticeable additional effort for me (in fact it's a tiny bit more effort to turn them on and off all the time). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314739 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 16:30:53 +0000 splitshift 314739@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I drive all vehicles with lights on , 24/7 they work ! If the light changes for an unforeseen ( no joke) reason, such as a shadow on a tree lined road then the light makes a difference !! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314737 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 16:29:49 +0000 CycleAlex 314737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My usual lights have a day mode (bright double flash every so often) - no idea if they help but I’d like to think they might be useful at catching people’s eye at roundabouts/junctions </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314736 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 16:18:31 +0000 Morningsider 314736@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Daylight running lights do seem to be becoming "a thing". I was thinking about this the other day. At first I thought "they must work, after all I did see them." Then I thought "...but then I've never NOT seen a cyclist while out on the road during daylight (or darkness)".</p> <p>They aren't for me, but if daylight running lights are what it takes for someone to feel safe enough to saddle up then I say good luck to them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314720 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 13:55:34 +0000 gembo 314720@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It was a lot simpler in the 1970s, the lights then could only be seen at night - PIFCO, Everready etc. People had to look in the daytime?</p> <p>No one looks anymore? </p> <p>Putting lights on to ameliorate this addresses the symptom but not the problem.</p> <p>Today was dull/foggy so OK, but Saturday was bright and clear and I saw a couple of people with lights on (one in peloton) other on own </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314717 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 13:33:21 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 314717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have used front and rear flashing lights 24/7 year round for years. Just do.</p> <p>I have only ever been hit deliberately.</p> <p>This morning was a thick pea souper, so the spokes lights went on too. Princes Street commuters must've thought the Xmas parade had come early. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314716 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 13:03:43 +0000 amir 314716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My car has day running lights. But I don't approved of them (I don't think I can turn them off). It puts those with such lights at a disadvantage, such as pedestrians. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314715 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:53:05 +0000 Juanito 314715@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have a bontrager day time light I use. I'm not sure that I notice any difference from drivers, but I quite like how I just put it on whatever the conditions. Perfect for a dull morning where a normal light wouldn't be bright enough. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314709 Mon, 23 Sep 2019 12:29:42 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 314709@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Seriously wondering these days if an eyesight check is still part of the driving test! If it is dull I usually put my very bright light on flash in the hope that drivers will actually see me and give way! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19862#post-314669 Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:01:57 +0000 gembo 314669@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In the last year they have become much more prominent. </p> <p>Same as cars now being driven in day time with lights on</p> <p>This used to be pointless as the lights did not show up. But now with the super bright lights you can see them,</p> <p>Will this help the unobservant be observant?</p> <p>Will judges now be asking in trials where poor cyclist has been driven into Was the cyclist sporting day time lights? </p>