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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Bikes are like shoes, I think http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Bikes are like shoes, I think en Sun, 19 Apr 2026 10:25:01 +0000 MediumDave on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942&page=2#post-371663 Sat, 11 Nov 2023 20:52:47 +0000 MediumDave 371663@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Altberg still make leather hiking shoes and there's a good chance any pair you but will be made in Richmond. Failing that Treviso, and who doesn't like an Italian shoe? They are indeed pricey Arellcat on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942&page=2#post-371645 Fri, 10 Nov 2023 23:01:57 +0000 Arellcat 371645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ A gravel bike would be an on-trend trail shoe. In 2021 it will look very definitely like something from 2019. It's 2023 and what we used to just call trail/walking shoes are now called 'gravel shoes'. They're basically running shoes with thicker tread on the soles. The guy that held the speed record for running around the world reckoned you could walk or run everywhere with just one pair of gravel shoes, even though they looked to me like running shoes. I put my Doc Martens in the attic a year or two ago and have sort of forgotten about them. I'm half-thinking of buying a replacement pair of lightweight walking shoes, the old fashioned kind made of leather, from when the UK still made shoes. You can't buy them new anymore, but there are some a bit like it which are really expensive now. I were right about that saddle on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-343123 Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:23:50 +0000 I were right about that saddle 343123@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Used my Yak Trax on the seat but one rubber strand broke and I am going to write a letter in green ink. Only done about 20km. gembo on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-343118 Fri, 01 Jan 2021 15:26:38 +0000 gembo 343118@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Lot of slipping above balerno today. I used my stick and vibram but crampons would have been good. wingpig on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-343117 Fri, 01 Jan 2021 14:54:26 +0000 wingpig 343117@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I was too preoccupied watching children to pay much attention to what people running around the Crags were wearing yesterday. Vibram® and careful movements are usually OK for me in most icy conditions but struggle when I have a slippy-booted child on my arm, on a slope, going down. Ordered a set of slip-on stud things the other day which appear to use the same studs as tyres, so can hopefully be refilled using my spare Schwalbe studs. Arellcat on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-343114 Fri, 01 Jan 2021 13:18:58 +0000 Arellcat 343114@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I bought a single crampon last year for my clumpy black leather shoes – the soles are different sizes which is kind of strange – but I've yet to encounter the conditions that would require fitting it. I fitted the crampon earlier this week to my smaller clumpy shoe, since the weather looked like it might make it worthwhile. I rummaged around in my box and pulled out a larger crampon that I bought ten years ago. It's gone a bit rusty, and one or two of the prongs are missing, but still feels pretty beastly, so I put that on my larger shoe. Just to see how they felt together I walked a few miles to the shops and back, and then did a longer walk yesterday. Walking with crampons is quite hard work and they make a terrible noise, but there was a lot of ice that made it worthwhile. Back in the summer, I bought my Orange 5 Pro, which is like a pair of kangaroo jump shoes. They're so much fun! Not as crazy as Powerisers, but they fit me a lot better than my tall heeled leather boots and I'm the same height while wearing them. I've worn them loads since I got them and even went to the shops in them a few times. A couple of teenagers at Sainsbury's said they looked really cool. wingpig on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317866 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:47:00 +0000 wingpig 317866@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I quite like the weird aches you get after walking quickly through snow and ice with nothing more than a pair of Vibram-soled Merrell Moab and lots of stabilising micro-movements. When I briefly go back to unclippy pedals I notice similar muscles being used to keep pedal and foot in contact. Arellcat on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317859 Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:10:41 +0000 Arellcat 317859@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Luckily you can't fit crampons to posties' steel-toecapped boots. I often prefer to walk while wearing a single crampon. It's not as bad as you think, although I can fit a pair if need be to my DMs if the weather's really bad. I bought a single crampon last year for my clumpy black leather shoes – the soles are different sizes which is kind of strange – but I've yet to encounter the conditions that would require fitting it. I'm thinking of getting sticky rubber soles fitted to my Nike Mags. They're not as good in the ice as crampons but easier to walk and run. The best ones are made in Germany, apparently. Greenroofer on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317830 Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:55:09 +0000 Greenroofer 317830@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I went to work today in office shoes...with crampons on. They seemed quite sensible on the way in, but a bit ridiculous on the way home. I think I might fit crampons to my stout brogues this weekend. Luckily you can't fit crampons to posties' steel-toecapped boots. That would make them <strike>unrideable</strike> unwearable. I were right about that saddle on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317753 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 20:46:57 +0000 I were right about that saddle 317753@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @Trixie Yes! Trixie on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317752 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 20:28:19 +0000 Trixie 317752@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Surely the hire bikes are bowling shoes? Arellcat on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317717 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:30:11 +0000 Arellcat 317717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40771000/jpg/_40771000_recycle203ok.jpg"> I think this also neatly illustrates Tulyar's Brompton. crowriver on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317711 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:10:56 +0000 crowriver 317711@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Are hire bikes like ice skates?" Roller skates. I were right about that saddle on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317694 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:20:55 +0000 I were right about that saddle 317694@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The SUNLIT Uplander is something like an old pair of rugged adventure shoes that some insane cobbler has fitted comfort soles to. And waxed cotton laces. And gaiters. And then polished them. ARobComp on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317693 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:12:55 +0000 ARobComp 317693@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Are hire bikes like ice skates? Specialised shoes you pay to use once in a while, never that comfortable, and you are looking forward to getting away from them again, but they do the job. sallyhinch on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317686 Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:53:12 +0000 sallyhinch 317686@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I am comforted by the fact that I have the same number of bikes as I have pairs of regularly used shoes. Now trying to decide which is which out of a Brompton and a touring bike versus my trainers and my DM biker-style boots. wingpig on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317656 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:36:22 +0000 wingpig 317656@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Walking boots; proper ones, where the soles, D-rings and laces can be replaced. acsimpson on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317646 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:52:53 +0000 acsimpson 317646@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ My commuter is a pair of well worn Clarks lace ups. The soles have been replaced several times, likewise the lhe laces. Any sore spots can be fixed with new insoles. Occasionally they look like a toe is about to come through but all they need is some TLC and a good polish to make them carry on through another winter. My mountain bike is like a bridesmaid's shoes. More expensive than you'd care to admit and only taken out on rare occasions before being cleaned and hung back up. The Helios meanwhile is a set of matching Christmas <strike>jumpers</strike> slippers for me and the kids. Snowy on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317638 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:35:02 +0000 Snowy 317638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ My CX bike is now wearing crampons. Trixie on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317625 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:51:04 +0000 Trixie 317625@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ My hybrid is hiking shoes. Suitable for almost all conditions and can run in them if needed. My aged MTB is a pair of broken-in vintage Docs. My e-bike is those kids' trainers with the wheels in the heels. Heelys? I were right about that saddle on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317624 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:20:13 +0000 I were right about that saddle 317624@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ an elderly pair of adidas Sambas Smile starting. can't bring yourself to throw out for sentimental reasons (or possibly just mental reasons). Smile complete. Morningsider on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317622 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:03:14 +0000 Morningsider 317622@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ My Gazelle is a pair of fur lined, steel toe-capped rigger boots. Comfy, practical and weather proof. Not made for running. My rigid mountain bike is an elderly pair of adidas Sambas, sturdy, unflashy and will outlast the human race. My Giant road bike (actually size S - but you know what I mean) are those high-end running trainers that you blew a fortune on years ago, ran into the ground but somehow can't bring yourself to throw out for sentimental reasons (or possibly just mental reasons). LivM on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317618 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:48:41 +0000 LivM 317618@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ My ebike is my pair of closed toe sandals that I've been wearing everywhere since I bought them, regardless of style. They are comfortable and don't hurt my feet. On a few inclement occasions where I have to wear other shoes I'm grumpy and uncomfortable. I should probably get rid of some of my other pairs of shoes now that I hardly ever use them since I got the sandals. nobrakes on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317595 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:46:36 +0000 nobrakes 317595@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I have too many pairs of shoes. My Crosstrail is a pair of walking boots. My Tarmac is a pair of high end running shoes. My Fuego recumbent is a pair of Goretex trail boots My Sprint trike is a pair of wellies My M5 recumbent is a pair of not yet invented winged mercury shoes Our Quetzal recumbent tandem is 2 pairs of waders :) fimm on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317583 Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:42:42 +0000 fimm 317583@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ My TT bike is like my cross country spikes - very good at what they do but totally impractical for anything else, and you can take part in triathlon/cross country perfectly well without owning such things. Arellcat on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317566 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:59:29 +0000 Arellcat 317566@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I think a velomobile would have to be Marty McFly's self-lacing Nike Mags. My recumbent bike is very much like a pair of trail/walking shoes. They're well over ten years old and you've done a lot of walking in them, so they've had new insoles once or twice, and they've been resoled once too. The Goretex lining doesn't really work anymore, but the uppers are so well broken in that you just keep wearing them. Matilda the Elephant Bike is a pair of late-90s clumpy black leather loafers. Muckle heels and soles, fairly comfortable, but you can't run in them and they are definitely on the sturdy end of fashionable. My Brompton is like my Keen sandals. Works in all weathers, though you'd probably get wet doing so, and as they are practical-stylish, you tend to take them anywhere and inevitably wear them with whatever clothes fit the occasion. My crank forward bike is like a pair of oxblood Doc Martens: funky and cool, people notice them, and you know you should be able to knock about in them quite happily all day every day, but somehow they're just not as comfortable as everyone says, and so they spend too much time sitting under the bed gathering dust. My old mountain bike is a pair of tall heeled leather boots that you bought ages ago when they were the height of fashion. You wore them all the time at first but eventually realised they were just ridiculously unsuitable for your later lifestyle (see trail/walking shoes), but you have too much history invested in them that you just can't bring yourself to throw them out. This narrative may in fact be based upon a pair of leather boots I own and never wear anymore. Greenroofer on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317554 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:36:32 +0000 Greenroofer 317554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @crowriver - Yes! That's much more like an Elephant Bike. I were right about that saddle on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317552 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:03:13 +0000 I were right about that saddle 317552@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The Scaffolding Bike RIP; <img 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crowriver on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317550 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:43:18 +0000 crowriver 317550@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "An old 3-speed" That is the pair of comfy old brown brogues. "commuter bike" More like a pair of "urban" trainers of the sort office workers wear while walking to work. Then change into office shoes stored in desk drawer or locker... "My Elephant Bike is a pair of wellies." I'd say more a pair of workwear safety boots or shoes, the type worn in factories or by posties in a sorting office or depot. Possibly with steel toe caps and robust, heavy as hell. BMX is a pair of Vans. Traditional touring bike is a sensible pair of leather walking boots or "stout shoes", the sort you rub dubbin on and last for decades. Audax bike a lighter weight version of the above, with more technical features, made by a specialist manufacturer. MediumDave on "Bikes are like shoes, I think" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19942#post-317548 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:26 +0000 MediumDave 317548@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ An old 3-speed like tartan slippers, maybe ones that have been lovingly chewed up by a terrier. An urban arrow perhaps like Crocs? I think my "hipster" fixie most resembles a single battered Converse found hanging from a phone line. It may or may not smell faintly of cheese.