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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Portobello Road surprise infra</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2026 04:48:11 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>crowriver on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 14:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@toomanybikes, happens more on the eastbound approach (other side of road towards Jock's Lodge junction). Often encounter cars in the (on road, painted) cycle lane just after the junction, immediately before segregated lane starts. Usually possible to enter segregated section, but I recall a couple of times after facility had just opened, having access completely blocked.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Other issue westbound is cars turning left into side streets. Need to be super alert at Piershill Terrace (a favourite of rat-runners avoiding traffic lights further west) and the access to Morrison's car park.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Despite these issues it's still far preferable to the sections of road further east, by Eastern Cemetery and along Moira Terrace. Lots of impatient and/or speeding drivers trying to overtake at junctions, with oncoming traffic too close, or before pedestrian refuges. Not nice! I prefer to avoid these bits of road westbound if at all possible. Eastbound just about tolerable because of bus lanes and better line of sight at junctions.
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<title>toomanybikes on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 12:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There's a gap in the double yellows there on both sides, bit of paint (official or otherwise would fix 99% of problems) . In theory you can sneak in on the bike (e.g. In your photo). But add a bus in the stop...
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<title>chdot on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 12:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I &#60;em&#62;think&#60;/em&#62; car was moving, but if cars park there then yes. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As they would be ‘blocking’ an access, presume ‘illegal’ already. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Enforcement…
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<title>toomanybikes on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 12:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Need to ban parking where that black car is in the photo. access is so often obstructed.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(happens in both directions in equivalent places)
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<title>crowriver on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2022 14:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I go this way several times per week. Some problems with how it's been implemented, but overall it is very useful and means I cycle on the main road (until Fishwives Causeway) rather than taking the circuitous Restalrig Path/Seafield Path route.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They just need to extend this cycle infrastructure further eastwards, and reduce the speed limits for motor vehicles too.
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<title>chdot on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2022 12:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Only only used this for the first time on Monday. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curate%27s_egg&#34;&#62;Curate's egg&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51986370874_3bc4e4b0a9_z.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51985076627_dd5e38100e_z.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51986635605_a73231de6c_z.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I stopped to take this after &#60;em&#62;almost&#60;/em&#62; missing the ‘turning’ - missighted by the opaque bus stop. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wasn’t going &#60;em&#62;that&#60;/em&#62; fast. )
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<title>CycleAlex on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;They've added a good chunk since I last went past. 300+ metres eastbound now. Amuses me that the biggest bit of segregated infrastructure in recent years has come from a roads project rather than active travel.&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;img src=&#34;https://i.imgur.com/51VGjas.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Plus this somewhat adorable mini-resurfacing machine:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;img src=&#34;https://i.imgur.com/ispU4Bq.jpg&#34;&#62;
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<title>gembo on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@acsimpson, did your Pop's measuring system do depth of water in Fathoms?
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>I were right about that saddle</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Milli, aye. Molten brain syndrome. In my defense I have been mostly trying to get several hundred inverted commas in the right place today.
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<title>acsimpson on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Now your mixing metric and FFF. Perhaps that's allowed, I'll need to check.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I assume you mean Milifurlongs though as micro is pretty tiny.
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<title>amir on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;The Fibonacci sequence is quite useful as a quick converter between miles and kilometres.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hah - early bits more approx.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I struggle with any arithmetic after 200km or so, despite my job. Still, it keeps those riding with me amused.
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What size are your wheels? Old school mountain bike, mate. Three microfurlongs.
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<title>Frenchy on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The Fibonacci sequence is quite useful as a quick converter between miles and kilometres.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I know you all have the Fibonacci sequence memorised...
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<title>neddie on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;A more accurate (&#38;amp; easy) conversion between miles and km is divide by 5, multiply by 8, or vice-versa.
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<title>EdinburghCycleCam on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I've been trying to convert from miles to kilometres, mostly because I've got Strava set to metric. Thankfully a yard and metre are roughly the same, at least, and 1 mile = 1.6 km, which is reasonably easy to convert between...
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<title>Rosie on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think in miles and yards still. The next generation in my NZ family haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.
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<title>Rosie on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@acsimpson - US recipes with cups for measuring quantities both dry and wet make me furious.  Also tablespoons for butter. Don't those guys own scales and measuring jugs with lines on them?
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I like the sound of your dad.
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<title>acsimpson on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm sure I've mentioned before that my dad had a fun measuring system the fortnight/furlong/firkin. All other units are expressed in fractions of multiples of such things.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For instance an elephant is approximately 1/32 furlong long and weighs around 40 firkins.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Meanwhile Wales has an area of about 512,000 square furlongs and the top speed of Whale is just short of 2 million furlongs per fortnight.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's all a little confusing but hopefully IWRATS's micrometer can be calibrated to assist with it.
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There is a Metric Martyr in my office and I have instructed her that if she wishes to use Imperial measurements she has to use the lot. Cubits, grains, furlongs.
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<title>acsimpson on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;US volume is a far riskier business. Although it seems that a &#34;metric&#34; cup (240/250ml) as sold in British shops is a very similar in size to it I generally google the weight of such measurements. Most recipes are only a guideline anyway so imprecise cups don't matter.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Don't make the mistake of assuming a US pint is interchangeable with an imperial pint though.
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh, yes. It will be US.
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<title>gembo on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 13:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;in US recipoes I often see the advice to add a cup of flour and a cup of Sugar?
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<title>acsimpson on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 13:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Are you sure it's imperial not US? Although at a difference of a few hairs per 0.9144m it's irrelevant.
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh I love how this hi-tech gives results in Imperial measures.
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<title>CycleAlex on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Nothing as cool as that unfortunately! On newer iPhones you can scan an area with the phones camera and then, using 'augmented reality technology', measure distances. More: &#60;a href=&#34;https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208924&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208924&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It can be very accurate but it was pretty dark this morning.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Did a rough measurement with my phone&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Genuinely intrigued. Laser?
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<title>CycleAlex on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 08:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;@cycleAlex Can you confirm the width?&#60;/blockquote&#62;Did a rough measurement with my phone - initial width is ~1.75m increasing to ~2.1m at the bus stop. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;First layer of resurfacing has been done so doesn’t look like there’ll be any more segregation for now.
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I guess what really needs to change is for road engineers to be told, in no uncertain terms, that their purpose is to make using a car to travel through the centre of the city a lot harder. If anything, actively make traffic flow worse (for anything other than buses, trams and bikes).
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<title>chdot on "Portobello Road surprise infra"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“Improving the standard of traffic engineering is probably much more efficiently delivered by pressure on their elected managers rather than piecemeal comments on consultations“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Still not efficient enough though. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There must be plenty of traffic engineers who began their careers when ‘how to do things differently/better’ was at least talked about. But the impact on their employers (officials and politicians) seems to have been minimal. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Too many clearly think ‘priority car’. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In Amsterdam some things got going when the officials decided to do stuff without (apparently) actually telling the public or politicians too many details. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here in Lothian Region days the top two Highways officials kept designing roads after councillors told them not to on the basis that ‘those councillors won’t be around for ever’. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Officials had to be persuaded to take early retirement. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That was FORTY YEARS AGO. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A whole generation of road engineers since then...
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