http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Scottish Budget 2020/21 en Sun, 31 May 2026 09:25:34 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-351912 Tue, 22 Jun 2021 15:01:32 +0000 chdot 351912@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From link </p> <p>“</p> <p>The full terms of reference for the review will be published in due course. The review is expected to consider how the devolved government can shift spending towards better maintaining existing roads rather than building new ones </p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-351908 Tue, 22 Jun 2021 14:01:29 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 351908@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/22/welsh-government-to-suspend-all-future-road-building-plans" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/22/welsh-government-to-suspend-all-future-road-building-plans</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-351515 Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:31:37 +0000 Frenchy 351515@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>We're doomed... </em></p> <p>I think you've just made a convincing case for putting your girlfriend in charge of the world. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-351514 Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:22:32 +0000 MediumDave 351514@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A while back the electrical plant in my girlfriend's stair suffered a big fault. Big enough for an alarming quantity of blue sparks, a tremendous buzzing and all the lights in the building flickering. My girlfriend shut off her power and told her neighbours to do the same. A surprising number of them reacted exactly as @Arellcat describes: "But then I won't be able to watch the telly/make tea/..." </p> <p>Once SSEN had been and fixed the fault, they sent in their loss adjusters. Total damage in my girlfriend's flat: 1 transformer for some low-voltage lights. Damage in flats with the power left on (owners out or intransigent) included entire boilers, fridges, freezers, washing machines, some elaborate culinary devices and a whole pile of extremely expensive Apple hardware. </p> <p>We're doomed... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-351512 Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:29:06 +0000 Arellcat 351512@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Imagine coming home to find water seeping through your ceiling and ruining your floor, and deciding the best thing to do is set up some buckets to measure how quickly it's dripping, commission an architect to calculate if your ceiling is likely to collapse in the next few years, then spend a couple of years talking with your entire family to devise a target for how much you dare turn off the water at the mains, and a few more years trying to get the agreement of everyone else in the stair to turn off their water too.</p> <p>Meanwhile the architect has some friends from university who are now Professors, and who say everyone in the stair really ought to turn off the water right now, but no-one does because they can't have a bath or shower, and anyway the stopcock is behind a panel that looks lovely but the kitchen fitter who did upstairs tiled over it and didn't leave an access panel, and the owners really don't want to have to take their kitchen to bits. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-351511 Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:02:13 +0000 Morningsider 351511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Stickman - and by "decisive action" the Minister means passing the buck to local authorities. As far as I am aware, only two authorities (Edinburgh and Glasgow) have expressed an interest in even considering the introduction of the Workplace Parking Levy. That leaves 30 local authorities who are either actively opposed or indifferent. </p> <p>This isn't how you react to a climate emergency. Imagine coming home to find your house ablaze and deciding the best thing to do was to "authorise" your neighbours to throw buckets of water at it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-351501 Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:15:17 +0000 Stickman 351501@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/workplace-parking-charges-a-key-tool-to-cutting-car-use-as-levy-takes-next-step-to-introduction-in-scotland-3269540" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/workplace-parking-charges-a-key-tool-to-cutting-car-use-as-levy-takes-next-step-to-introduction-in-scotland-3269540</a></p> <p><blockquote>Mr Day said: “It has never been more important to take decisive action to tackle climate change - and Scotland is leading the way by committing to reduce the number of kilometres travelled by car by 20 per cent by 2030.</p> <p>“Workplace parking licensing has the potential to be a key tool for local authorities to help us reach this ambitious goal, by encouraging the use of more sustainable travel modes, reducing congestion and tackling harmful emissions.</p> <p>“As the net revenue generated must be committed to support policies in local transport strategies, this policy is also intended to finance improvements in public or active transport, making it more attractive and thus encouraging individuals to leave their cars at home.”</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323483 Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:12:19 +0000 chdot 323483@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/2020/02/scottish-budget-20-21/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/2020/02/scottish-budget-20-21/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323410 Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:04:49 +0000 crowriver 323410@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I bought four books of child city singles plus two books of child day tickets before the price increase. Eldest is currently bussing to school five days per week, plus goes into town certain evenings for activities (hence day tickets). I can't see the single tickets lasting beyond the end of March, but the day tickets might just last a teensy bit longer. Hopefully by then the weather will have improved and then can start cycling to school some of the time... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323405 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:28:29 +0000 neddie 323405@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Creating a hedge fund of Child Singles. I’ve heard it all now! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323399 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 20:11:34 +0000 crowriver 323399@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Reports I've seen indicate new free bus scheme coming in January 2021. So city singles and child day tickets until then... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323398 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 20:02:35 +0000 Frenchy 323398@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wingpig - Melanie Main saying on Twitter that you're likely to have till early 2021. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323395 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:28:45 +0000 wingpig 323395@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wonder how long I will have to use up the two books of child City Singles I bought before the price increase? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323394 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 18:49:32 +0000 I were right about that saddle 323394@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Frenchy</p> <p>Dinnae be ower modest loon. At wis you eens at did at. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323393 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 18:39:03 +0000 toomanybikes 323393@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The government has also agreed to review plans to upgrade the Sheriffhall roundabout on the Edinburgh bypass, although ministers have rejected calls from the Greens to scrap works on the A9 and A96."</p> <p>Sherrifhall could be great news if the money goes to ECC</p> <p>A9 still utter &lt;rule 2&gt; </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323392 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 18:27:33 +0000 Frenchy 323392@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sheriffhall apparently now paused for a "review" too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323390 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 18:15:53 +0000 toomanybikes 323390@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>£15m more for cycling is on top of the previous £5m increase, which took me a while to find out. £100m in total= £20 a head before councils' matching/ top up. Although not all will go on infrastructure, (they need to advertise the current death trap painted lanes).</p> <p>A bit disappointed they didn't get them to double it to £160m. But being over 18 and with no kids, I guess I would be. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323388 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:55:24 +0000 I were right about that saddle 323388@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Needs an RFID-enabled ID card for under 19s. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323387 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:54:51 +0000 chdot 323387@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/free-bus-travel-for-scotland-s-18s-and-under-as-snp-strikes-budget-deal-with-greens-1-5096099" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/free-bus-travel-for-scotland-s-18s-and-under-as-snp-strikes-budget-deal-with-greens-1-5096099</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323385 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:49:08 +0000 Stickman 323385@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Reading the fine print, this is just an initial sum of money for preparations to introduce free travel <strong>if possible</strong>. Let’s wait and see if it actually happens. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=3#post-323384 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:47:29 +0000 steveo 323384@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Okay, maybe need quite a few % raise on the fuel duty, TFL claim they raise ~5bn from fares.</p> <p>Lothian buses has a more manageable £153m revenue (2017 annual report), presumably most of that coming from the fare box. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323383 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:46:50 +0000 I were right about that saddle 323383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hovercraft. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323381 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:43:33 +0000 steveo 323381@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tricky to get to/from Leith is a bit tricky without going through town. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323380 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:42:04 +0000 I were right about that saddle 323380@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@steveo</p> <p>I was thinking cross as in across the centre. Baberton to Leith freestyle driving. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323379 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:39:08 +0000 steveo 323379@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>according to <a href="https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/797042/190424_SS19_Direct_effects_of_illustrative_tax_changes_BULLETIN_FINAL.pdf">this</a> a 1% raise on fuel duty would generate £200m not sure what percentage rise would be needed to nationalise the UK's bus services but I bet it wouldn't be that much. Chuck a few quid on VED and you'd be golden. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323377 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:34:41 +0000 steveo 323377@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No sure on across town, but into town yeah there is precious little need. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323374 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:26:16 +0000 I were right about that saddle 323374@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@acsimpson</p> <p>Yup, I'm for simple prohibition of cross-town traffic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323373 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:21:34 +0000 acsimpson 323373@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Steveo, I definitely agree. Just look at the cost of taking a family on holiday by train/bus compared to driving.</p> <p>It doesn't even have to be financial. Remove the option to drive across town and suddenly the bus looks more attractive. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323372 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:12:26 +0000 steveo 323372@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Up road tax/fuel duty to pay for it, I've said it before if the value proposition of the car vs bus was very different more people would take the bus. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20075&page=2#post-323371 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:07:19 +0000 I were right about that saddle 323371@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not the case in Dunkerque;</p> <p><a href="https://www.challenges.fr/entreprise/environnement/a-dunkerque-l-incroyable-succes-des-transports-publics-gratuits_676087" rel="nofollow">https://www.challenges.fr/entreprise/environnement/a-dunkerque-l-incroyable-succes-des-transports-publics-gratuits_676087</a></p> <p><em>la fréquentation des bus a ainsi augmenté de 85,5% sur un an et, parmi les nouveaux usagers, 48% prenaient auparavant la voiture pour se déplacer.</em></p> <p>Bus use up 85% of whom 48% had previously driven. </p>