http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: City Mobility Plan en Tue, 19 May 2026 03:26:19 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-363986 Tue, 04 Oct 2022 09:21:53 +0000 chdot 363986@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don’t know if this link has actually been posted elsewhere. </p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/29320/city-mobility-plan-2021-2030-pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/29320/city-mobility-plan-2021-2030-pdf</a></p> <p>Prompted by -</p> <p>“</p> <p>And so delighted to pick this up on behalf on my brilliant colleagues @Edinburgh_CC #CityMobilityPlan </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/daisynmurphy/status/1575621262772039681" rel="nofollow">https://mobile.twitter.com/daisynmurphy/status/1575621262772039681</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346462 Mon, 15 Feb 2021 18:53:38 +0000 crowriver 346462@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, but what we have seen over the past year is folk abandoning public transport for their cars, coupled with an increase in working from home, where it's an advantage to have more space, plus a garden for private outdoors recreation. </p> <p>If/when people return to offices, etc. maybe some of those folk will go baclk to public transport, but many might not. Some people might choose to travel by bike or on foot. A fair number might continue to work from home for some or all of the time. </p> <p>So our roads could be a lot busier than they were in recent years, and demand for suburban living could increase thereby exacerbating car dependence. Effectively the re-emergence of the "doughnut effect" first seen in the 1970s... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346457 Mon, 15 Feb 2021 18:43:26 +0000 chdot 346457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“If our experience is anything to go by, not going to happen”</p> <p>BUT that was <em>then</em>. </p> <p>NOW is the start of the future...</p> <p>(I’m not disagreeing with you!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346447 Mon, 15 Feb 2021 16:16:19 +0000 crowriver 346447@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, if our experience is anything to go by, not going to happen. Majority of parents of kids who were friends with our kids at nursery or early primary school ended up moving to suburbs before their children went to high school. That's not the same as majority of kids in the same class, just those we had something in common with or our kids got on with each other. Should be noted that all these parents already had cars in an urban context. We did not, and do not.</p> <p>It's a small number who stay in the city if they have the <em>possibility</em> of doing the suburban thing. If their lifestyle already involves car use, then most will go to the suburbs if they can afford it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346416 Mon, 15 Feb 2021 10:27:54 +0000 chdot 346416@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“not parents of young children“</p> <p>I’m sure <em>some</em> will be. </p> <p>Traditional thing <em>has been</em> ‘oh kids, we’ll need a car’.</p> <p>Exacerbated by ‘move to the suburbs’. </p> <p>Maybe enough people will now want to resist/change(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346410 Mon, 15 Feb 2021 09:57:18 +0000 gembo 346410@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If I was a parent of young children I would sign up to this.</p> <p>A lot of the people fulminating about losing their parking rights are not parents of young children. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346406 Mon, 15 Feb 2021 09:20:32 +0000 chdot 346406@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>It’s a 10-year plan to help the city achieve net-zero carbon status by 2030, reduce the inequalities built into our transport options and improve our quality of life. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/edinburgh-can-be-shining-example-how-create-cleaner-healthier-transport-system-lesley-macinnes-3133273" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/edinburgh-can-be-shining-example-how-create-cleaner-healthier-transport-system-lesley-macinnes-3133273</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346353 Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:50:05 +0000 gembo 346353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@harts you have missed your Metier. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346348 Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:05:53 +0000 Harts Cyclery 346348@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I love the idea of up and spake Spokes.</p> <p>I can imagine DdF being the eldern knight in Sir Patrick Spens*...</p> <p>*edited</p> <p>The Lord Provost sits in Edinburgh toun,<br /> Drinkin the blude-reid wine<br /> ‘O whaur will A get a skeely skipper<br /> Tae sail this new CMP o mine?’</p> <p>O up and spak an eldern knight,<br /> Sat at the king’s richt knee;<br /> ‘Lesley MacInnes is the best convener<br /> That ever sailt the sea.’ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346249 Fri, 12 Feb 2021 12:09:41 +0000 CycleAlex 346249@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The full CMP: <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s31421/City%20Mobility%20Plan%20-%20Combined%20v2.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s31421/City%20Mobility%20Plan%20-%20Combined%20v2.pdf</a></p> <p>Full of many interesting things! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346245 Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:52:51 +0000 jonty 346245@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Positive news for the Roseburn Path - there is now an 'Option B2' for tram extension which avoids the path and goes via Queensferry Street instead. The document suggests it would actually be a better and more useful route, suggesting the original routing down the Roseburn Path was just a desperate attempt to avoid taking road space. It even says it would be cheaper, as all the bridges on the original route would have to be replaced. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-346219 Thu, 11 Feb 2021 21:31:09 +0000 CycleAlex 346219@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A page on the CEC website for the CMP has appeared: <a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/city-mobility-plan-1" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/city-mobility-plan-1</a></p> <p>Interestingly the implementation page says CEC will introduce a workplace parking levy by 2023.</p> <p>Slightly less impressive is "Some arterial routes will be used for mass commuting by bike" by <em>2030</em>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-323991 Thu, 05 Mar 2020 22:51:10 +0000 chdot 323991@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://en-gb.facebook.com/OurKirkcaldy/posts/2628076070649146" rel="nofollow">https://en-gb.facebook.com/OurKirkcaldy/posts/2628076070649146</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-323497 Thu, 27 Feb 2020 21:53:32 +0000 Rosie 323497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thus spake Spokes. An excerpt:-</p> <p>Spokes very much welcomes the overall objectives of the plan, particularly the target of net zero carbon emissions from transport by 2030 and the aim to increase trips made by healthy and sustainable travel modes. Taken together with the City Centre Transformation and City Plan 2030, this represents a major step forward in planning for a more sustainable and people-friendly City and we congratulate the Council on its publication.</p> <p>Infrastructure</p> <p>Spokes welcomes the completion by 2022 of currently planned segregated routes: CCWEL, Meadows-Canal, West Edinburgh Link, Bioquarter to Dalkeith Rd, Leith Walk, Meadows-George St (May 2023). </p> <p>We strongly support the proposals to build cycling facilities on all arterial routes. The norm for such routes, and any other main roads, should be segregated provision. </p> <p>However the plans for arterial road cycleroutes should be completed by 2022 rather than the 2025 suggested in the draft Plan, so that implementation can follow on immediately from the current cycleroute projects which are due for completion by 2022. Delaying the start of implementation until 2025 would be very disappointing.</p> <p>Constructing proper facilities for cyclists at the West End junction is recognised in the Plan to be a priority. We emphasise this point, in view of the tramline-related cyclist’s death there, and the continuing tramline cyclist crashes. This junction also remains a significant barrier for cyclists travelling between south and north (in either direction).</p> <p>We support the ‘to not through’ city centre proposals, provided that cyclists can continue to be able travel through the city centre.</p> <p>We support the creation of goods micro-distribution hubs, particularly for the city centre where distribution by bike is an ideal option. Spokes compliments the Council strongly for its cargo bike scheme for local deliveries on Leith Walk during the tram works, and we look forward to this being used as a pilot and example for other areas of the City, particularly its centre and its local town centres.<br /> Maintenance. The other major infrastructure issue affecting uptake of cycling is the condition of the roads - potholes!<br /> The Mobility Plan does not make any reference to this issue. However, maintaining good road surfaces is vital for active travel and should be covered in the Plan.</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2002-Edinburgh-Mobility-Plan-Spokes-response-final.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2002-Edinburgh-Mobility-Plan-Spokes-response-final.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-322219 Sat, 08 Feb 2020 12:11:24 +0000 chdot 322219@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>We’ve committed to achieve a carbon neutral Edinburgh by 2030. That means we must change the way we manage and develop growth in the city for generations to come. Give us your views on our #CityPlan2030 proposals to help us achieve this: bit.ly/2S7xQph #futureedinburgh</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/edinburgh_cc/status/1225814433064275976" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/edinburgh_cc/status/1225814433064275976</a></p> <p>SO</p> <p>That’ s 20 years of massive increase in cycling provision and motor vehicle reduction</p> <p>OR</p> <p>Business as usual? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-322207 Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:21:46 +0000 gembo 322207@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good person </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-322206 Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:14:08 +0000 I were right about that saddle 322206@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I answered the actual questions seriously. Big up bring it on don't put EV infrastructure in. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-322204 Fri, 07 Feb 2020 19:33:40 +0000 gembo 322204@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@iwrats, the consultation looks like a game changer if we can build on it. The questions after the consultation should be no comment et cetera if you are seeking to save energy. Those who have to compile such data will presumably move errant data to the no comment sector rather than deleting your pertinent comment due to latter answers which contradict or do not compute.? </p> <p>Assume largely white male atheists of aged nature will respond? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-322197 Fri, 07 Feb 2020 17:45:38 +0000 chdot 322197@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The high level of risk pedestrians and cyclists face is a major obstacle to encouraging more people to cycle and walk between the places they live work and visit. We need to think about how we use our road space and how we travel to keep people safer.</p> <p>“</p> <p>CEC City Mobility Plan p5</p> <p><a href="https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/city-mobility-plan/user_uploads/city-mobility-plan---draft-for-consultation-1.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/city-mobility-plan/user_uploads/city-mobility-plan---draft-for-consultation-1.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-322196 Fri, 07 Feb 2020 17:43:21 +0000 I were right about that saddle 322196@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Done. This time I am a 75+ male lesbian Hottentot/Inuit member of the Exclusive Brethren. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20080#post-322194 Fri, 07 Feb 2020 17:06:53 +0000 gembo 322194@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.connectingedinburgh.com/city-mobility-plan/city-mobility-plan-1?documentId=6&amp;categoryId=2" rel="nofollow">https://www.connectingedinburgh.com/city-mobility-plan/city-mobility-plan-1?documentId=6&amp;categoryId=2</a></p> <p>Maybe does not work</p> <p>I have replied that the 2025 Plan is good to go NOW - ditch the 2020 plans they are too weak and then bring the 2030 plans forward to 2025 </p>