http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Today's rubbish being a human en Sun, 31 May 2026 08:38:47 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=3#post-361086 Wed, 01 Jun 2022 10:51:27 +0000 MediumDave 361086@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This morning, about 0725 at the junction of Grange Rd and Causewayside. Me heading west, thinking about my upcoming swim session. I slow and stop in the ASL. </p> <p>On the Salisbury Place side of the junction, next to the map library, an incident is taking place, which takes a moment to register. </p> <p>A dishevelled and gammony-looking article (on foot) is getting right up in the face of a lady on a bike stopped in the ASL. Really, really close. I was about to intervene but she saw him off with a splendid stream of &lt;rule 2&gt; invective.</p> <p>You go girl. </p> <p>What this absolute weapon thought he was playing at attempting to intimidate lone women like that...*despairs* </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=3#post-360686 Fri, 20 May 2022 21:10:42 +0000 acsimpson 360686@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote> I know how daft they can be.</blockquote></p> <p>The owners? My pet peeve is when they desperately try to get their poorly trained pooch to run across the path in front of you. Of course the pooch always waits until the last possibly moment to do so. If the owners would just let it be or better step across the path themselves everything would be hunkydory. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=3#post-360683 Fri, 20 May 2022 20:50:48 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 360683@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It always amuses me that when I slow down to a crawl a lot of dog owners think I am scared of their dog. I am just being careful not to injure it because I know how daft they can be.</p> <p>One of my favourite cycles is along the Fife coastal path via the Limekilns shared path. Really narrow though with lots of blind corners and full of dog walkers after 8am. :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=3#post-360665 Thu, 19 May 2022 22:18:02 +0000 Yodhrin 360665@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My favourite genre of dog walkers are the ones who give you a sustained dirty look when you slow down as you approach their frolicking off-leash critter, as if you're somehow reproaching them rather than just trying to avoid squishing the dog or coming off the bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=3#post-360664 Thu, 19 May 2022 21:41:13 +0000 gembo 360664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hope he is OK and back to his best on the bike soon as.</p> <p>Lot of dogs off leashes and humans on phones these days</p> <p>I could have taken several out this week if I had not come to a complete halt </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=3#post-360662 Thu, 19 May 2022 20:51:49 +0000 SRD 360662@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>micro-srd came off into a patch of nettles because rubbish human let their dog run at him on the canalpath :( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-360577 Sun, 15 May 2022 15:51:30 +0000 Tulyar 360577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presumably your building owns the road solum outside to the centreline?</p> <p>I've always wanted to find some clear cases to apply for a stopping up order, where the road is not required for the passing &amp; repassing of traffic, and the use of the land reverts to the land owners. With a keen legal trainee there could be some fine potential to cut down on road pavements that are not required for moving traffic (ie almost permanently blocked by parked vehicles), and repurposing them as local mini-parks. </p> <p>A few examples in Glasgow include Renfield Street (North of Renfrew Street) taken over by SMG as their private parking and setting down area, Park Drive (312 feet deleted from Glasgow list of roads and converted to a car park for Glasgow University, as they own all the frontaging buildings, &amp; there is no justification for its use as a road between 2 places). University also own &amp; manage parking spaces on University gardens (Council only owns &amp; manages the carriageway) plus the West end of University Avenue. </p> <p>The University also owns/owned the extension of the West End Park (West of the River Kelvin) created when the railway company paid to re-site Glasgow University to Gilmorehill. The lower ground provided sites for Glasgow Exhibitions (including 1901 that delivered Baghdad on Clyde Art Gallery), and in 1914 the Avenue known as Kelvin Way was created (as a carriage drive in Kelvingrove Park) which appears never to have been on the city's list of Roads, &amp; until 1980's had a 20mph speed limit &amp; ban on HGV's </p> <p>Anyone checked through Edinburgh's list of Roads? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-360530 Thu, 12 May 2022 18:16:54 +0000 LaidBack 360530@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD - you should tell Graeme Hart to instruct customers on correct Tern GSD bike use! I'm sure some UA owners are not blameless. Many in Amsterdam are fed up with cargo bikes now (why do they need such large bikes etc. Same argument people have about cars)</p> <p>I get complaints at LB if bikes are parked badly on pavement. Thats' why pallets go to Bike Works as just too narrow and cars are bumper to bumper (on road and parked!) so people find it hard to go round. I do try and move to allow people freedom to walk round.<br /> Nearest bike racks are at bridge.</p> <p>I parked my large shop cargo bike in residents space outside shop other day. Had to move of course to let neighbour in! Did point out that if I had a car I wouldn't have been so happy but they wouldn't have asked.<br /> You can never be totally right with a bike. Bigger bike, bigger problem ;- </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-360529 Thu, 12 May 2022 16:33:54 +0000 SRD 360529@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Colleague at work again parked their e-cargo bike so that I could not get my bike out of bike cage. (they parked perpendicular to the others, against our back wheels, blocking at least two of us in, potentially 4). Tern GSD with back carrier; front carrier etc. Immovable. </p> <p>Had to get someone to come help me lift my bike over three others so I could get home. </p> <p>NOT impressed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-360522 Thu, 12 May 2022 12:23:14 +0000 LaidBack 360522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When someone shouts an insult at you in the street it's natural too reciprocate.<br /> Yesterday I didn't and a conversation followed...</p> <p>I was on the twin recliner heading east towards Rankeilor St. The road beomes a cut through and guy was walking in front right in middle on way to Toucan crossing. So I tinged my bell slightly and said I was going by.<br /> Guy in 40s half looks round and says I can stuff my bike etc.<br /> I said 'that's interesting' - quite funny really and read it as not really aggressive but just 'one cyclist too many syndrome'.<br /> He turns round and continues dishing out how I look with my 'stupid red helmet' and 'stupid flags' on bike etc. But he's sort of locked in to dialogue. So I just said I did have a life off the bike and the world's a crap place often. I accepted I was bike entertainment and he wasn't in the mood. Having an off day but my response did make him laugh.<br /> Suspect that's the case with others.<br /> Example how conflicted shared use spaces 'bug' pedestrians. Of course the road is full but people target cyclists on pavements (as they see it).<br /> Was a negative then positive encounter - people carry a lot of anger with them. Upshot of course is I'm the one more likely to modify behaviour. In shared use paths I know bikes are seen as annoying to many - always try and avoid conflict now. That's why we need segregated space if numbers rise. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357861 Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:47:40 +0000 neddie 357861@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bill</p> <p>That's terrible behaviour from the motorcyclist, basically bullying - it definitely needs dealt with by the long arm of the law. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357857 Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:58:36 +0000 bill 357857@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ejstubbs @Murun @LaidBack Thanks for your feedback. This morning I finally managed to memorise the plates number. He did say something to me today but I couldn't work out what that was. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357530 Sun, 12 Dec 2021 11:12:55 +0000 SRD 357530@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't spend as much time in the park as I used to, but in almost 15 years in the area, i've never had such an unpleasant encounter. Neither of my kids that keen on dogs in the abstract (exceptions made for known dogs) and we've not had problems in the park (towpath a different matter). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357525 Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:06:31 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 357525@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD as a local, I dislike many of the Harrison Park dog posse. Absolutely no need to encourage or allow dogs to run across paths. Frankly, the fenced-off allegedly dog-free bit (or an equivalent) should be the only place dogs are allowed off leads and the rest of it should be lead-only - that’s what they do in many French parks </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357521 Sat, 11 Dec 2021 12:54:58 +0000 SRD 357521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>cycling my christmas tree through harrison park (as you do), group of people standing in the middle of the path throwing balls to dogs on both sides of the path. fast moving dogs. I think they'll have the sense to stop? but no terrier comes bowling along at top speed. i scream and slam on brakes and avoid hitting it. </p> <p>suggest to people that i'd rather not break my hip right now and the dogs should not be chasing across the path.</p> <p>bloke says blah blah dogs too.</p> <p>'lady' tells me to stop screaming and take more care. </p> <p>i thank her for her empathy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357483 Thu, 09 Dec 2021 19:25:43 +0000 LaidBack 357483@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bill - that's like stalking / harassment. He must have issues as motor bikers <strike>love</strike> understand risk and generally just go round everything. </p> <p>Slowing down he is threatening you. You didn't give him him a hand signal? </p> <p>I think you need to report. Make of motorbike or any details. Motorbikes aren't always about plain utility and often adorned with panniers, fairings etc. Owners often have clothes with distinctive stuff. eg Ride position head down with hands dropped race style?<br /> Motorbike traffic is half of bike traffic on many roads. He will be one of only a few using this road at that time. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357475 Thu, 09 Dec 2021 16:20:07 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 357475@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bill saw this on Strava. It's worrying behaviour and more so if it's continued today. I think footage would be helpful to (a) ensure a appropriate police response (do police stations still have stairs for perps to fall down?) and (b) for him to know any future interactions will be recorded. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357473 Thu, 09 Dec 2021 16:13:05 +0000 ejstubbs 357473@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I would say take his number and report it as threatening behaviour, especially if it's been more than one incident with the same person. I have had a reasonably positive response in the past when reporting motorist aggression, but they always say they can't do anything if I don't have the registration number (which is entirely understandable). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-357470 Thu, 09 Dec 2021 15:25:01 +0000 bill 357470@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have used A71 several times in the past couple of weeks because of the ice/frost on the backroads. There is a motorbike rider who doesn't like it. Every time he sees me he shouts something. Last week he slowed down to ride along me and tell me some things. I can't really hear all that much what comes through his helmet but I did get "what's wrong with you" and today's "F-&lt;rule 2&gt; O-&lt;rule 2&gt;".</p> <p>Is it worth trying to spot and remember his number plates and report it or do I need some footage? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355605 Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:21:08 +0000 gembo 355605@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@canuck, not sure what to say? The person on the pedestrian crossing is cycling on it . Is it one that has a green bike light…? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355603 Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:11:33 +0000 the canuck 355603@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In this case, I'd decided that walking across the junction was preferable to making a right turn when the light went green, while a group of kids had just started moving through the zebra crossing.</p> <p>Her youngest (6? 7?) saw me walking out through the crossing, and sensibly slowed so he didn't run into me.<br /> Instead of congratulating him on his awareness, she yelled out, "keep going! she's not allowed to do that!"</p> <p>I asked why not, and she said it was illegal... I was a bit too shocked and too far into the junction to continue. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355568 Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:34:13 +0000 gembo 355568@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, people feel free to comment on cyclists and other out groups as often as they like whilst thinking little of the terrible parking or driving of the in group.</p> <p>The response is Why don’t you get yourself a bike if you are so interested in cycling, you sound bike curious? E bikes are a nice stepping stone,</p> <p>If my Zen is with me I take this line. If m6 Zen has deserted me it is a bit more vulgar. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355565 Mon, 11 Oct 2021 10:37:19 +0000 chdot 355565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“this is in fact illegal“</p> <p>Why do people believe this?</p> <p>AND strongly enough to confront others over something so trivial (even if it was illegal)?</p> <p>Do THEY obey ALL laws (including the ones they made up)??</p> <p>More importantly, do they berate people who park on pavements, drive through red lights etc etc??? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355561 Mon, 11 Oct 2021 10:05:24 +0000 MediumDave 355561@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@davidsonsdave No he didn't - maybe there are 2 of these clowns on the loose? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355527 Sat, 09 Oct 2021 20:44:07 +0000 the canuck 355527@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I walk around corners/through crossing lights all the time, if I think it's worth it. I have also been told (by someone cycling her kids through a pedestrian crossing) that this is in fact illegal, and I replied that it certainly wasn't.<br /> This became rather awkward as we often used that same junction at the same time, and her friend's child would stare at me until I stared back. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355498 Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:42:35 +0000 davidsonsdave 355498@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@mediumdave Did the bloke in your encounter offer to show you his Strava? Seemed rather forward to me. I normally don't look at anyone's Strava until at least the third date ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355497 Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:35:59 +0000 davidsonsdave 355497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@srd I think it was 1 in 5 drivers admit to going through lights on red and 87% admit to speeding in a 20mph zone. </p> <p>Amusing that a cyclist acting legally results in such behaviour, when I would bet that he didn't say a word to whoever gave him a lift when they invariably broke the speed limit. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355492 Fri, 08 Oct 2021 13:00:16 +0000 SRD 355492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I get such dirty looks when i do this at King's junction (if I arrive just after the lights have changed). </p> <p>always amused that people seem far more aggrieved than if I had just pedalled through </p> <p>(or like the cars yesterday, driven through on full red, when I had full green) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355489 Fri, 08 Oct 2021 11:39:51 +0000 MediumDave 355489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@davidsonsdave I think I may have had an encounter with this bloke (in Newington some years ago). </p> <p>I invited him to get out of his car and push if he wanted to join in the light-avoiding fun.</p> <p>He said he "had a camera" and would show it to the polis. </p> <p>As "OK boomer" wasn't a thing back then I did the handbags-at-dawn gesture, suggested the polis might enjoy a good laugh as much as anyone then cycled off. </p> <p>Maturity. Nailed it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20091&page=2#post-355488 Fri, 08 Oct 2021 11:13:21 +0000 davidsonsdave 355488@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I came into my office this morning for the first time since January 2020. Took my wife's open framed ebike and got caught at the lights on South Bridge so stopped before the line, got off, pushed the bike around the corner on the pavement &amp; back onto the road Chambers Street past the pedestrian crossing &amp; hopped back on again. </p> <p>If you were the bearded man who got out of the passenger side of a car and who took offence at my actions and who wished me to decide whether I was a cyclist or a pedestrian, please know that it is possible to transition between the two, just as you did when you got out of the car. When I am sitting on my bike, I am a cyclist and when I am walking next to my bike, pushing it, I am a pedestrian. </p> <p>Being that the bearded man cycles every day [excluding today, when he was getting dropped of by car], I fully expect that he will be a member of this group. We all have personal opinions &amp; personal preferences on how things should be done. Before shouting at someone in the street, ask yourself, is this just my opinion, or is it actually dangerous/illegal [it's not]. </p>