http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Edinburgh without the Festival en Thu, 21 May 2026 05:09:57 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=3#post-375291 Mon, 03 Jun 2024 18:59:43 +0000 gembo 375291@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not sure why 8n always new this would be an arts venue for ten years then redeveloped to flats Whilst other people seem shocked?</p> <p>The entirely minimal changes to the site suggested little cash was spent making it a venue.?.? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=3#post-375288 Mon, 03 Jun 2024 10:36:41 +0000 chdot 375288@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This seems to be the right thread for this -</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/03/summerhalls-sale-could-devastate-edinburghs-arts-scene-say-creative-leaders" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/03/summerhalls-sale-could-devastate-edinburghs-arts-scene-say-creative-leaders</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=3#post-336796 Tue, 01 Sep 2020 14:24:08 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 336796@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Radio 4 had a section the other night from James Naughtie on the Festival's absence. There was about two sentences in it that acknowledged that not all Edinburgers welcome the festival with open arms even in normal times. I'd say a lot of Beeboids are missing the free access to the Festival/Glasto/whatever. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=3#post-336793 Tue, 01 Sep 2020 13:25:41 +0000 steveo 336793@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But did it improve your life? Can't say it made the slightest bit of difference to me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=3#post-336792 Tue, 01 Sep 2020 13:18:42 +0000 crowriver 336792@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I miss the festival. There is no buzz just now, it is sad. The Royal Mile is a different Edinburgh just now, it's an Edinburgh for locals."</p> <p>Thus concludes an Angie Brown article on the Aunty Beeb web site. And yet, the only folk she interviews - apart from street performers and restaurant/shop owners are.....wait for it.....tourists from England.</p> <p>Shurely shome mishtake? (Ed.)</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-53946873" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-53946873</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=3#post-328251 Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:46:03 +0000 crowriver 328251@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo, looks like it. No snogs under the mistletoe unless from same household, everyone spaced out two metres apart. Doesn't sound like great fun TBH. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-328247 Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:13:02 +0000 gembo 328247@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowrriver we will all be up the tron again at midnight then find nowhere to go? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-328231 Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:56:22 +0000 crowriver 328231@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What I'm seeing in this article is a mix of hubris (tourism is <em>not</em> the biggest industry in city), denial (things <em>will</em> have to change) and dawning realisation (winter festivals may have to be curtailed so restaurants survive). Will winter festivals happen at all this year?</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-has-devastating-impact-edinburghs-tourism-sector-2546764" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-has-devastating-impact-edinburghs-tourism-sector-2546764</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327972 Sun, 19 Apr 2020 14:32:09 +0000 crowriver 327972@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I note in the appendices to this council report that consultations on Edinburgh's Winter Festivals and Green Spaces strategy have been "suspended until further notice" due to COVID-19 outbreak...</p> <p><a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s23847/7.3%20Consultation%20Planning%20Report.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s23847/7.3%20Consultation%20Planning%20Report.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327575 Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:53:27 +0000 crowriver 327575@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>BBC's Douglas Fraser bats for the tourism industry team here, apparently no dissenting voices to the vested interests allowed. Fraser and tourism lobby turned up, other team banned from the field.</p> <p>Yes, some businesses (especially those with chains of premises) will suffer, others may not survive despite all the help offered. But surely we need to take the opportunity to re-think how our economy functions, not just wait for the return of "business as usual"? Especially Edinburgh, but arguably also the Highlands economy needs a big re-think. Pivot to local, sustainable, and away from global or even rUK tourism...</p> <p>---</p> <p>When the tourists don't turn up</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52264733" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52264733</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327539 Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:38:59 +0000 chdot 327539@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Linehan is under no illusions, though, that the festival can simply return to the status quo before the crisis. He’s aware of the tide of criticism and anti-festival feeling – mainly directed at the ever-growing Fringe – that has been rising in Edinburgh during the recent years of hyper-tourism; and he believes that even before the coronavirus crisis, Edinburgh and the world’s other major arts festivals were facing profound questions about their future. </p> <p>“Over the last 30 years or so, it’s been easy to be drawn into a world in which the arts are framed as part of a wider economic regeneration agenda that’s all about tourism and never-ending growth. But now, I think there is a real change of political mood under way; and we’re recognising that that old approach is no longer sustainable either environmentally, or in terms of the real value of the arts, which are so much more than just a branding exercise. The Edinburgh International Festival has always had an international mission, of course. But it shouldn’t be beyond the wit of man to make it both a festival for the wider world, and a festival for Edinburgh and all its people; and I think that after a year in which, for once, we don’t have to produce a festival on a tight schedule, none of us are going to have any excuse for not coming up with some brilliant new thinking about what an international festival might look like, in those new times. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/interview-edinburgh-international-festival-director-fergus-linehan-why-its-time-rethink-citys-cultural-celebration-2536910" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/interview-edinburgh-international-festival-director-fergus-linehan-why-its-time-rethink-citys-cultural-celebration-2536910</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327401 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 23:48:02 +0000 acsimpson 327401@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Kim,</p> <p>EdFoC setting the trend which other's are now following. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327398 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 23:22:32 +0000 I were right about that saddle 327398@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>EdFoC on acid? I'm available. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327395 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:56:36 +0000 minus six 327395@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>c'mon now Kim lets get with the zeitgeist</p> <p>Edinburgh Festival of Cycling will be RAMPED UP for 2021</p> <p>RAMPED UP TO THE MAX </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327394 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:29:37 +0000 Kim 327394@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There won't be an Edinburgh Festival of Cycling this year either, should be back next year, if anyone is interested... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327391 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:15:34 +0000 crowriver 327391@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Attila still got an edge I see. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327375 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:28:45 +0000 gembo 327375@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just had post from old time fringe act Attila The Stockbroker - he says Stay At Home This weekend 17 million of you managed it the last time you were asked to vote. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327057 Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:40:11 +0000 crowriver 327057@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>For its size, Edinburgh has an impressive roster of cultural venues. That is certainly down to the festival making these venues more viable, at least as far as the theatres and performing venues are concerned. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327041 Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:22:01 +0000 gembo 327041@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does edinburgh not have year round venues and infrastructure for the arts?</p> <p>Maybe I would go along with better infra or level of infra in August year round. But we would all be exhausted.</p> <p>Edinburgh does well as a small city with a douce and sometimes dour populace and some poor and grim areas beyond.</p> <p>I shall seek sponsorship to guide a cycling tour beyond Douglas to Muirkirk </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327037 Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:01:57 +0000 I were right about that saddle 327037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Zaktly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-327025 Mon, 06 Apr 2020 17:21:08 +0000 unhurt 327025@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was at an event where someone made the interesting point that most cities would have leveraged a festival of this scale &amp; age to get year-round venues &amp; infrastructure for the arts for the city. Whereas, Edinburgh... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326986 Mon, 06 Apr 2020 12:52:11 +0000 Rosie 326986@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver - I do like the laissez-faire approach but I agree it does look like Something Must Be Done. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326972 Mon, 06 Apr 2020 11:43:54 +0000 crowriver 326972@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Lottery would be fairest, I'd guess, but that of course wouldn't stop The Deaf Toners putting on their musical version of Wolf Hall in an old warehouse. without advertising on the website."</p> <p>Unless you needed a council permit to put on a production. And those were only available to acts listed in the Fringe programme...</p> <p>Most European cities would have controlled the hell out of something like the Fringe, but we seem to have this laissez-faire approach. Time for a rebalancing methinks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326900 Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:44:36 +0000 Rosie 326900@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - there is no actual quality control is there? No filtering? No-one says, "This group is rubbish so we won't put them on the website?" I don't actually know how it works. I assume that you pay for your own listing, and that's you in, with your Waiting for God-route where Vlaidimir and Estragon fill in loads of consultancy submissions and TROs.* </p> <p>I have seen dire things in the past and yet I'm glad that hopefuls had a chance of being dire.</p> <p>So I wonder how you cut quantity unless by (a) first come first served; (b) lottery; (c) some kind of panel which decides whether you can come or not. </p> <p>Lottery would be fairest, I'd guess, but that of course wouldn't stop The Deaf Toners putting on their musical version of Wolf Hall in an old warehouse. without advertising on the website. </p> <p>*Feel free to steal this idea. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326894 Sun, 05 Apr 2020 15:21:51 +0000 I were right about that saddle 326894@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>how could it possibly be cut back?</em></p> <p>By limiting the programme and website listings? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326874 Sun, 05 Apr 2020 13:37:01 +0000 crowriver 326874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Rosie, well for a start the temporary marquee venues can be banned - Spiegeltent, Underbelly, Book festival, Lady Boys of Bangkok, Chinese State Circus, etc. No tents on the Meadows, in George Square, or Charlotte Square. This is not Glastonbury, we're not in the middle of a field.</p> <p>Book festival can move to an indoor venue where the environmental impact will be minimal. Enough of this faux English village fete charade. If all other aspects of the Fringe are required to be held indoors it will change the character, but is a relatively simple way of constraining the size of the event. There could potentially be exemptions for genuine street performers (though personally I'm not a fan). And whatever else happens, GET RID OF THE SILENT DISCOS. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326873 Sun, 05 Apr 2020 13:35:37 +0000 jdanielp 326873@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It will be nice to see the castle without the ridiculous grandstand, and also to be able to see from the esplanade this year. I stopped off theretowards the end of my cycle today to enjoy the view. There was one other person on a bicycle, two people jogging, and one person walking a big dog. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326866 Sun, 05 Apr 2020 13:23:45 +0000 Rosie 326866@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver - agree it's way too big, but how could it possibly be cut back? Anyone can put on anything they like if they can find a venue. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326863 Sun, 05 Apr 2020 13:13:42 +0000 crowriver 326863@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Past few years been mostly to Official Festival stuff - usually a very interesting programme, and as gembo says good value. Fringe too bamboozling with massive array of things to wade through, often cannot be bothered. Last year was not very inspired by EIF programme and didn't go to see <em>anything</em>.</p> <p>Hope EIF regains its mojo in future years and puts on more challenging work. As for Fringe, needs a diet anyway, should be about half its current size. Less stand-up, more quirky acts would be more in the true Fringe spirit. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20162&page=2#post-326861 Sun, 05 Apr 2020 12:46:11 +0000 gembo 326861@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Down the Wireworks behind the ticket office</p> <p>Group called Stutz Bear Cats , I am going to google</p> <p>Same day as 18 year old Gemboid discovered that the Cockney rhyming slang for a pint of cider was a lemon.</p> <p>We could play a coronavirus guess why but think too tricky also not true</p> <p>L1 L2 CC3 JF4 PF 5 ER6 (film which does actually rhyme with Pint of Cider) </p>