http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “Why Edinburgh drivers face ‘Attack of the Cones’ “ en Sun, 31 May 2026 10:51:27 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334561 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:43:03 +0000 chdot 334561@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very nice and balanced...</p> <p>Got a photo? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334555 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:59:48 +0000 Stickman 334555@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The headline for this article in the print edition is “Space for People plans have put the anti-car lobby in driving seat”. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334551 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:41:30 +0000 chdot 334551@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"believe" vs "belief"</p> <p>No that was was wholly mine. </p> <p>Quote submitted electronically and used in full!</p> <p>Yes I did read before I sent, obviously not carefully enough. </p> <p>This is modern media - work from home, no subs. </p> <p>Upside - it’s harder to get misquoted. </p> <p>Years since I talked to a journalist and hoped they’d pick the right words in the right order from a ramble. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334550 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:29:33 +0000 I were right about that saddle 334550@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Weirdos have welcomed the new 'weirdo-ways'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334549 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:29:20 +0000 neddie 334549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>OK, I get that Noa is the new intern and should be given some slack, but her use of the English language is atrocious.</p> <p>"believe" vs "belief"</p> <p>"cycle segregation lanes"</p> <p>etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334545 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 14:25:04 +0000 neddie 334545@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Keen cyclists and environmentalists have welcomed the new cycle lanes</blockquote></p> <p>OKaaay. That "keen cyclists" again.</p> <p>When will we see the equivalent for the nay-sayers:</p> <p>"Keen motorists driving 500 yards to the shops, climate denalists and fatal-crash-denialists have serious concerns about the new cycle lanes" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334536 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 13:43:44 +0000 gembo 334536@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, yes you were fair unlike your next quote - You must consult consult consult and then you must feck off with your attempt to save the planet by inconveniencing shop keepers</p> <p>another thing you did not mention was how much webby, Cookie Monster et al get paid by Ford/Esso </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334534 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 13:31:02 +0000 chdot 334534@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>“I continue to have serious concerns across a number of issues, but none more so than if you are to agree to have a community and stakeholder consultation then it would be wise to listen to those that have taken time and effort to contribute. </p> <p>“There is no getting away from the fact that communities and businesses have been completely ignored in favour of one or two aligned contributors… </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/plans-further-new-cycle-segregation-lanes-roads-across-edinburgh-approved-2921481" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/plans-further-new-cycle-segregation-lanes-roads-across-edinburgh-approved-2921481</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334532 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 13:16:50 +0000 chdot 334532@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“really banging on about shopkeepers wishing to park outside their shops”</p> <p>Yeah well, I don’t know the extent of the personal self-interest, so it would be along the lines of ‘all cyclists run red lights’. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334531 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 12:54:21 +0000 gembo 334531@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nice quote from CHDot being reposted by Spokes. Though he stopped short of pointing out that those who bang on about shoppers driving to shops are really banging on about shopkeepers wishing to park outside their shops. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334524 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 12:03:55 +0000 Rob 334524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just like the parallel routes for walking aren't justification for removing the pavements on Mellville Drive. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334520 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:22:36 +0000 miak 334520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I use melville drive as its a shorter direct route home at 18 mph from summerhall after a long day at work, avoiding students, joggers, children, dogs and their walkers, tourists, wayward drinkers, sports equipment and barbequers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334519 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:19:20 +0000 neddie 334519@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>the principle of the Spaces for People programme to cut road space</blockquote></p> <p>It isn't cutting road space at all. To do that you would have to build on it, or start digging up Tarmac. The road space <em>is exactly the same as it was before</em>, because roads aren't only for cars... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334515 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:58:03 +0000 neddie 334515@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Indeed. It is a main road like any other. Cyclists like to take direct and convenient routes, same as motor cars (or even more so, due to energy expended). Of course all main roads should have segregated cycleways, whether they have a parallel one or not </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334512 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:36:11 +0000 gembo 334512@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Melville drive has always had some paint on the road I think?? All three routes Very heavily used by cyclists. (Sri Chinmoy mile North Side meadows to go to Uni or Tills bookshop segregated 50 metres / Main road / South side path to Go to Furriers (gone in last 5 years only) or EBC - ie completely other direction)</p> <p>EEN has Robot generated copy now I think </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334507 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:35:31 +0000 toomanybikes 334507@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If the parallel offerings are such perfect alternatives there, why do so many cyclists still use Melville Drive? Even if I don't use that road, it's obvious that there's demand to cycle there and so it should be made safe for those people. (Preaching to the choir I know) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334506 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:24:35 +0000 chdot 334506@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>should be banished from public life until they understand“</p> <p>That probably includes Boris then. </p> <p>He’s about to try to bamboozle the Scottish public with ‘we saved Scottish jobs (furloughed), which an independent Scotland couldn’t afford to do’. </p> <p>“</p> <p>And the UK Treasury stepped in to save the jobs of a third of Scotland’s entire workforce and kept the wolves at bay for tens of thousands of Scottish businesses. </p> <p>More than ever, this shows what we can achieve when we stand together, as one United Kingdom.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/boris-johnson-hails-sheer-might-union-he-heads-scotland-2921515" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/boris-johnson-hails-sheer-might-union-he-heads-scotland-2921515</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334504 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:06:58 +0000 I were right about that saddle 334504@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone who uses the phrase 'magic money tree' should be banished from public life until they understand <a href="https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/quarterly-bulletin/2014/q1/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy">the actual functioning of money.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334503 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:58:55 +0000 wingpig 334503@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is this part of their cycling special? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20297#post-334502 Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:55:04 +0000 chdot 334502@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Even in these days of magic money trees, the budget for these schemes is limited and while organisations like Spokes will argue they don’t go far enough, other cyclists recognise some of the ideas are likely to cause more problems than they solve, will be of limited benefit, and the money could be better spent elsewhere.</p> <p>There are plans for cycle lanes on Melville Drive, for example, even though there is already a parallel cycle path and another one on the north side of the Meadows. With nearly 100 acres of open space this is one location where social distancing isn’t a problem.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-edinburgh-drivers-face-attack-cones-2921250" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-edinburgh-drivers-face-attack-cones-2921250</a> </p>