http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Greenbank to Meadows Quiet Route (Inc Braid Road/Estate) en Fri, 07 Aug 2026 09:13:02 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=27#post-385346 Fri, 07 Aug 2026 08:40:26 +0000 chdot 385346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>As our cities draw up plans and invest to become more resilient, Bogotá offers a powerful example of practical, low-tech solutions that take advantage of existing assets, engage the community and demonstrate that less car-centric cities are not only feasible but also more enjoyable and beneficial for all.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.weforum.org/stories/urban-transformation/50-years-ciclovia-open-streets-cycling-cars/" rel="nofollow">https://www.weforum.org/stories/urban-transformation/50-years-ciclovia-open-streets-cycling-cars/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-385325 Wed, 05 Aug 2026 17:56:39 +0000 pringlis 385325@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Removal staring on the 17th August, just after kids go back to school. <a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/public-transport/travelling-safely/3" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/public-transport/travelling-safely/3</a></p> <p><blockquote>August 2026 update<br /> We expect to complete the following works over three days starting on 17 August.</p> <p>The work will involve:</p> <p>removing the two traffic filters along Cluny Drive and returning the junctions to the previous layouts and priorities<br /> refreshing the road markings on several junctions within the Braid Estate.<br /> The changes to the two traffic filters along Cluny Drive will be completed on 19 August.</p> <p>While we expect that these dates will go ahead as planned, road marking works are heavily dependent on dry weather and there is a chance that these may have to be rescheduled.</p> <p>Ahead of the removal of the traffic filters, we will also introduce temporary signs along the two routes where the changes will be made to make sure that everyone walking, wheeling, cycling and driving, understands the changes.</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384868 Thu, 25 Jun 2026 13:25:22 +0000 neddie 384868@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nice one! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384866 Thu, 25 Jun 2026 11:49:28 +0000 pringlis 384866@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wrote that deputation for Councillor Ross as I agree with him on this, but when he asked if we'd support I did have a bit of a go at him for his colleagues not supporting us at TEC last week on the Quiet Route... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384865 Thu, 25 Jun 2026 09:48:54 +0000 neddie 384865@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It isn't only outside schools - driving behaviour is at an all time low. Mostly due to lack of enforcement, and lack of effective penalties.</p> <p>Penalties should include points on the licence, multipliers for repeat offenders, and fines linked to income. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384860 Wed, 24 Jun 2026 23:53:16 +0000 chdot 384860@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Deputation from South Morningside Parent Council for Agenda Item 8.8 - Parking Enforcement Around Schools By Councillor Ross</p> <p>South Morningside Parent Council welcomes this motion and particularly supports the proposals to investigate enhanced parking enforcement around schools.</p> <p>Despite the considerable efforts of schools, parent councils, and the wider community to encourage safe and considerate travel behaviour, unsafe parking around the school gates remain common. Vehicles stopping on yellow lines, bus lanes, near or on crossings and at junctions reduce visibility and create risks for children walking, wheeling and cycling to school. While education on better parking behaviour is important, experience shows that this is not always sufficient on its own to change behaviour - enforcement is necessary to stop repeat offending.</p> <p>We therefore support the Council exploring how additional resources can be directed towards targeted enforcement around schools.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b28242/Deputations%2025th-Jun-2026%2010.00%20City%20of%20Edinburgh%20Council.pdf?T=9" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b28242/Deputations%2025th-Jun-2026%2010.00%20City%20of%20Edinburgh%20Council.pdf?T=9</a> </p> <p>(P7) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384841 Wed, 24 Jun 2026 10:06:22 +0000 cb 384841@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's probably good regarding the 'curves' although the signage really needs to be better.<br /> Drivers coming down Hermitage Gardens *never* indicate if turning 'left' to continue down Hermitage Gardens. </p> <p>To be honest, from a car, some of these junction priorities are not at all clear until you're nearly on them. It does help if you stick to the speed limit mind you... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384838 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 13:52:49 +0000 bakky 384838@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No timescales yet due to the ‘publicity campaign’ required to tell everyone they’re about to make the roads less safe - as well as contractor required for line works and removal. </p> <p>Cluny Drive as I understand it will go back to having standard side road give ways onto Braid Ave, and same onto Hermitage Gdns; but I believe the priority ‘curves’ from Corennie Dr onto Braid Ave etc will remain as the side road give ways/ quiet route having priority. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384835 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 12:41:46 +0000 chdot 384835@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Related</p> <p>“</p> <p>South Morningside Primary School, which has over 500 pupils, was the only Scottish entry recognised.</p> <p>Judges commended the school’s child-led and creative approach to learning, with the school offering outdoor learning to every pupil, a range of sports programmes, interventions and extra-curricular activities. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-primary-school-crowned-primary-school-of-the-year-in-uk-wide-awards-8754232" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-primary-school-crowned-primary-school-of-the-year-in-uk-wide-awards-8754232</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384834 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 12:19:09 +0000 cb 384834@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Too few Give Way signs sadly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384833 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 12:00:21 +0000 pringlis 384833@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Removals is the easy bit, all the signage and road markings need redone as there are Give Way markings and signs which won't make sense when the filters are removed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384832 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 11:54:35 +0000 MediumDave 384832@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No doubt the mustard-cord wearers of the Braid Estate will be shoving the barriers out of the way pronto </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384831 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 10:54:20 +0000 chdot 384831@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks for explanation </p> <p>CEC not willing/able to say/estimate when contract to do removals will be in place… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384830 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 10:37:17 +0000 pringlis 384830@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There was some recent drainage work at that junction to address some flooding issues. I guess part of that contract was to repaint the double yellow lines, and noone's thought to tell them maybe not to bother. That said, I expect it'll be weeks/months until the filter is actually removed so no harm really. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384829 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 09:12:43 +0000 chdot 384829@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Provocative act??</p> <p>Know something everyone else doesn’t?</p> <p>It’s nice that it got on someone’s list of ‘periodic maintenance’, but i assume the existing lines hadn’t worn/washed away?</p> <p>I <em>know</em> there are <em>many</em> lines elsewhere that have completely disappeared </p> <p>ThisIsEdinburgh(Council) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384828 Tue, 23 Jun 2026 09:00:19 +0000 cb 384828@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why have a council team spent a happy day repainting the double yellows on the Hermitage Gardens / Cluny drive junction (not just next to the pavements but next to the modal filter too)?</p> <p>I mean I'm all for it, but... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384816 Mon, 22 Jun 2026 13:35:22 +0000 chdot 384816@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Hmm, eaten by the forum gremlins again“</p> <p>Seems this is the evaporation gremlin not the send it to spam one…. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384814 Mon, 22 Jun 2026 13:13:44 +0000 pringlis 384814@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm, eaten by the forum gremlins again. Not the first time it's happened. </p> <p>I was just noting that I've blocked KMM for now, and reporting to bakky that my wife was also delighted to meet him and have a chance for a rant. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384813 Mon, 22 Jun 2026 13:01:02 +0000 neddie 384813@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wonder what's happened to pringlis' post from 53 minutes ago...? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384806 Mon, 22 Jun 2026 00:00:00 +0000 bakky 384806@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lines for Pringlis! Lines for everyone!</p> <p><a href="https://freeimage.host/i/CIGZ61s"><img src="https://iili.io/CIGZ61s.png"></a></p> <p>(Pleasure to meet Mrs. Pringlis on Friday too, in a very Edinburgh 'randomly strike up parking cargo bike conversation and of course you already know them somehow' moment. We set the world to rights for a bit, great chat) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384805 Sun, 21 Jun 2026 23:41:35 +0000 pringlis 384805@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You have the patience of a saint, bakky.</p> <p>Nearly got pulled into replying on Keep Morningside Moving again after the latest nonsense from Mr Bailey. I think I'm going to take a break from the discourse for a while. It seems like the current measures may be in place for a few months yet so it doesn't seem like there's much point engaging with anything. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384801 Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:40:54 +0000 bakky 384801@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Eugh. <a href="https://edi.bike/articles/2026-06-21-june-transport-committee-roundup#7-3-greenbank-to-meadows-quiet-connection-update" rel="nofollow">https://edi.bike/articles/2026-06-21-june-transport-committee-roundup#7-3-greenbank-to-meadows-quiet-connection-update</a></p> <p><a href="https://freeimage.host/i/Cz4Cz8X"><img src="https://iili.io/Cz4Cz8X.md.png"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384800 Sat, 20 Jun 2026 22:26:14 +0000 bakky 384800@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No, it's more iterative than an exorcism. It's like being Bart Simpson doing lines on the chalkboard at the start of every episode. <em>"I will not believe the policies that the CEC administration tells me it backs until they've built me proof"</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384799 Sat, 20 Jun 2026 22:20:43 +0000 bakky 384799@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have never had to edit myself repeatedly quite as often as I have to still end up with a TEC round-up as disrespectful as this one is. It's like a ruddy exorcism. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384791 Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:15:23 +0000 Morningsider 384791@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>While I thought this was the most probable outcome (see previous posts) it still absolutely sickens me. Also, I simply do not believe administration councillors voted to remove the filters as they were worried about some hypothetical legal action about the use of TTROs. That is the smallest, most pathetic fig-leaf of an excuse. They simply agreed with the objectors. The Tories went as far as to paint the evidence from parents worried for the safety of hundreds of kids as equivalent with that of the dozen of so households living in multi-million pound homes on Midmar Drive, whining that traffic should use any street but their own.</p> <p>Grrr. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384768 Thu, 18 Jun 2026 16:17:11 +0000 chdot 384768@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think parent councils should consider threatening legal action </p> <p>Well it’s worked so for smaller interest groups… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384765 Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:57:25 +0000 pringlis 384765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Disappointing, especially as the parent council reps did such a good job. One positive is that we now have a working group across all the parent councils and we'll be back again in force when this comes back to committee. I believe that'll be in 6 months, not 12 now, as LibDem amendment was accepted. </p> <p>I think it's unlikely now that the filters will be removed before the school holidays, so there will be a period of bedding in before schools start back in which it will become apparent what the new traffic levels are. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384764 Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:38:24 +0000 bakky 384764@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spineless equivocations from Labour, Leb Dims and Tories, voting down SNP and Greens 6-5 to remove the filters and monitor for 12 months. </p> <p>So we fight on. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384763 Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:42:45 +0000 chdot 384763@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>High drama at TEC</p> <p>5 min adjournment to ‘work out how to proceed’</p> <p><a href="https://edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/1100027" rel="nofollow">https://edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/1100027</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20337&page=26#post-384749 Wed, 17 Jun 2026 15:46:19 +0000 ejstubbs 384749@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Mr Gibson argued that with the filters in place, drivers became frustrated at not being able to take the most direct route and tended to speed up and slow down at the various turns and junctions as they drove round three sides of a square. Removing the filters would remove that frustration and lead to lower overall speeds, he claimed.</blockquote></p> <p>What utter BS. The least-filtered 'route' in the area is Midmar Avenue/Midmar Drive/Hermitage Drive/Braid Road, which is a 20mph limit all the way - but you'd never know it from the way some drivers treat it. (Actually the Braid Road bit is probably the worst for speeding, but Hermitage Drive comes a close second, and would likely be just as bad if there weren't so many cars parked along it creating chicanes.)</p> <p>Speaking as someone who lives in a reasonbaly adjacent 20mph zone with <u>no</u> modal filters, I can assure Mr Gibson that their absence does not appear to induce a kind of zen-like calm in most drivers. Far too many appear to regard the limit as purely advisory - and a good proportion of those like to "take the racing line" when turning right at junctions i.e. they cut egregiously close to the kerb on their off side, which is unnecessarily risky given that their over-rapid approach to the junction is unlikely to have given them sufficient time properly to observe any traffic which might be approaching along the road they're turning in to. </p>