http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Scottish Government Priority en Tue, 19 May 2026 00:33:41 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-374140 Tue, 19 Mar 2024 17:10:43 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 374140@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A83 proposals published</p> <p>Mentions of cars - 22</p> <p>Mentions of cycling - 0</p> <p><a href="https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/mbdhtls0/brochure-preferred-route-exhibition-march-2024-a83-access-to-argyll-and-bute.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/mbdhtls0/brochure-preferred-route-exhibition-march-2024-a83-access-to-argyll-and-bute.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-371225 Sun, 22 Oct 2023 13:44:43 +0000 chdot 371225@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The landslips on the A83 in Glen Kinglas and 20 years of government failure – why? </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://parkswatchscotland.co.uk/2023/10/20/the-landslips-on-the-a83-in-glen-kinglas-and-20-years-of-government-failure-why/" rel="nofollow">https://parkswatchscotland.co.uk/2023/10/20/the-landslips-on-the-a83-in-glen-kinglas-and-20-years-of-government-failure-why/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-365661 Fri, 06 Jan 2023 10:02:54 +0000 neddie 365661@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Will this ruin a nice cycling route? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-365660 Fri, 06 Jan 2023 09:55:38 +0000 chdot 365660@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>A diversion route for the landslide-prone Rest and Be Thankful pass in Argyll is to be widened as a £30 million stop gap until a bypass of the notorious stretch of the A83 is built, transport minister Jenny Gilruth has announced. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/ps30m-diversion-route-upgrade-for-landslip-plagued-a83-rest-and-be-thankful-pass-to-improve-resilience-3965601" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/ps30m-diversion-route-upgrade-for-landslip-plagued-a83-rest-and-be-thankful-pass-to-improve-resilience-3965601</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-364001 Tue, 04 Oct 2022 14:57:58 +0000 chdot 364001@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This seems to be the right thread -</p> <p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/23018827.rest-thankful-a83-not-safe-enough-re-open-rain/" rel="nofollow">https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/23018827.rest-thankful-a83-not-safe-enough-re-open-rain/</a></p> <p>Check photo for new forest… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-340042 Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:48:17 +0000 paulmilne 340042@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>I'm not sure that there's a word for an exponentially-accelerating system of making things and throwing them away.<br /> </blockquote></p> <p>@iwrats Sorry I'm late to the party, but the answer is yes, there is a word for it - well, two words. </p> <p>It's called "planned obsolescence". I learned about it during activist days in the 70's. Not much has changed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-339780 Wed, 04 Nov 2020 23:54:19 +0000 chdot 339780@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>ONE of Scotland' most iconic roads is to be out of action until mid-November as workers try to make it safe after two landslips at the weekend, it has been revealed. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18846695.key-scottish-road-shut-nearly-two-weeks-landslides/" rel="nofollow">https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18846695.key-scottish-road-shut-nearly-two-weeks-landslides/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337944 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:50:49 +0000 crowriver 337944@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS, it's called Late Capitalism. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337943 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:50:47 +0000 gembo 337943@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Will be disasternomics? Coronanomics, etceteranomics </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337942 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:32:33 +0000 I were right about that saddle 337942@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm not sure that there's a word for an exponentially-accelerating system of making things and throwing them away.</p> <p>Maniac death spiral? Conventional economics? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337941 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:23:59 +0000 gembo 337941@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@steveo no they use the sister theory of dodgeynomics </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337938 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:36:15 +0000 steveo 337938@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>ropeynomics</em></p> <p>hasn't that been govt policy for years now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337937 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:31:02 +0000 Arellcat 337937@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>okay, ropey economics - but that doesn't rhyme.</em></p> <p>But the portmanteau, <em>ropeynomics</em>, sounds pretty good. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337936 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:20:12 +0000 I were right about that saddle 337936@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>In general, the true situation is highly complex compared with the above.</em></p> <p>Evergreen, deadpan. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337934 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:11:25 +0000 I were right about that saddle 337934@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The whole 'trees' thing was covered by environmental extremists in 2013;</p> <p><a href="http://www.andywightman.com/archives/date/2013/10" rel="nofollow">http://www.andywightman.com/archives/date/2013/10</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337933 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:10:35 +0000 Morningsider 337933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - by the <a href="https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/603254/webtag-tag-unit-a1-3-user-and-provider-impacts-march-2017.pdf">appliance of science</a>*</p> <p>*okay, ropey economics - but that doesn't rhyme. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337932 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:07:19 +0000 I were right about that saddle 337932@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But the tunnel leads to a dead end at Arrochar? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337930 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:00:34 +0000 crowriver 337930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Morningsider, "reforesting the slopes was also thought to be a good idea".</p> <p>I'm sure. Rather as setting carbon reduction targets were similarly thought. <em>Doing</em> something to achieve them, however - ach well never mind there's always another bottle of malt in the drinks cabinet, eh? Trebles all round! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337929 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:58:28 +0000 crowriver 337929@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS, I'm liking the new impish satirical you. It's a momentary respite from staring into the abyss of despair... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337928 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:38:49 +0000 gembo 337928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Clyde does not need a bridge it has a tunnel </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337926 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:23:04 +0000 I were right about that saddle 337926@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Morningsider</p> <p>You may be unaware, but I had to spend the night in Dunoon. How do you put a price on <em>that</em>?</p> <p>It will be interesting when the Britain Bonus becomes available and the Conservatives dare the Scottish Government to build a bridge across the firth of Clyde.</p> <p>The figures might look better with an onward bridge to Northern Ireland? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337924 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:57:49 +0000 Morningsider 337924@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The options for the A83 Rest and be Thankful were all <a href="https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/13529/a83-rest-and-be-thankful-project-a83-trunk-road-route-study-report-part-a-final.pdf">studied in 2013</a>. Even Jacobs couldn't get the numbers to add up. Every option was found to cost far more than the benefits it would bring. It is better value simply to clear up after each landslide than do anything about it - reforesting the slopes was also thought to be a good idea, but despite that being seven years ago not much seems to have been done on that front. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337923 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:54:39 +0000 I were right about that saddle 337923@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver</p> <p>I have responded, suggesting that Sustrans should handle delivery.</p> <p>That way we'll get a muddy hill track with a car parked on it most of the time and a flight of stairs and a strange gap. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337922 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:51:33 +0000 crowriver 337922@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Transport Scotland roads projects are like a huge supertanker, ploughing ahead at a rate of knots. Huge size, costs, massive crew and support team, automated systems. Near impossible for any mere mortal to stop the forward momentum of this massive hulking beast. It carries on, casting a blight everywhere for as long as there is fuel and money to sustain its progress. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20354#post-337921 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 10:43:02 +0000 I were right about that saddle 337921@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The plastic skittles that might protect the doctors and nurses on their way to work in the hospital up the road from me gather behind the wall of the adjacent park.</p> <p>There is no safe route from where I live even to the nearest school or the centre of town.</p> <p>Meanwhile the Scottish Government is considering ploughing a whole new car-track over mountains and across seas;</p> <p><a href="https://www.transport.gov.scot/publication/project-corridor-options-access-to-argyll-and-bute-a83/" rel="nofollow">https://www.transport.gov.scot/publication/project-corridor-options-access-to-argyll-and-bute-a83/</a></p> <p>This will not be controversial, this will be much needed and a boost to the economy. Pointless resisting. </p>