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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: OS Maps - past their use by date? http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: OS Maps - past their use by date? en Wed, 17 Jun 2026 04:43:54 +0000 SRD on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-353066 Fri, 23 Jul 2021 14:24:49 +0000 SRD 353066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Probably not the right thread, but anyway … Used OS explorer maps tiles in ViewRanger App while in darkest Perthshire. Combination of having the GPS ‘dot’ telling me where I was, but proper OS mapping features was just great. (As long as i remembered to actually look at it). ViewRanger App is still annoying and fiddly. Used it mainly just for the map, although have used their routes on Munros and similar. And, yes, we always have a spare battery pack fir the phone. And a paper map snd compass if we’re up a mountain. acsimpson on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344950 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 15:14:26 +0000 acsimpson 344950@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @paddyirish, indeed. I don't think you can turn it off for a single ride (except hopefully by making it visible only to yourself or perhaps friends). It could be an interesting experiment. At the moment there is no visible route to the grave from the north. Will it become visible after this trip takes place? paddyirish on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344948 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 15:06:24 +0000 paddyirish 344948@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @acsimpson, an individual can control whether their activities contribute to Metro and Heatmap. Settings> Privacy and Controls> Metro and Heat Map. e.g. a CCE trip to Covenanter's Grave if 12 CCErs recorded on Strava but turned this setting off, then the heatmap wouldn't know we were there. However you may want it turned on to show a commuter route is a safe one. A lot of manual toing and froing there... acsimpson on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344946 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:51:05 +0000 acsimpson 344946@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Back on a previous off topic: Does Strava have a way of preventing popularity creep? If a route is visible on it's heat map then more people are likely to follow it and it will therefore gain in popularity. Eventually it can become a self fulfilling popularity much like celebrity culture. The opposite could potentially also apply. If a route is closed for a period of time then alternatives will become more popular and the original route can dwindle. I were right about that saddle on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344915 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:00:15 +0000 I were right about that saddle 344915@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <img src="https://dy793rr2xtptx.cloudfront.net/images2/site/content-pages/jobbio_meta_work_happy.png"> urchaidh on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344914 Tue, 26 Jan 2021 00:19:11 +0000 urchaidh 344914@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I grew up in a house where the word 'jobbie' was used, though only when absolutely necessary. acsimpson on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344890 Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:36:38 +0000 acsimpson 344890@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Poo might be the shortest such word they could think of but they then went to the effort of creating a massive exclamation mark at the end thereby increasing the work past the other classes words. Had they chosen other alternative words they would quite possibly have found their work censored too. gembo on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344885 Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:09:02 +0000 gembo 344885@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @cb they say Rule 2 And Rule 2 cb on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344884 Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:55:59 +0000 cb 344884@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Does anyone use that word except middle class parents talking to their kids?" OMG, what do working class and upper class parents say? gembo on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344883 Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:39:02 +0000 gembo 344883@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ It is the shortest sweary word for trampling purposes I were right about that saddle on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344882 Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:28:59 +0000 I were right about that saddle 344882@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ 'Poo' is a really funny word to write in a field. Does anyone use that word except middle class parents talking to their kids? acsimpson on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344879 Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:12:16 +0000 acsimpson 344879@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @cb, Thanks for reminding me of that, it was visible when I moved to the area. I was about to bemoan the lack of access to historical google imagery, but I've just discovered you can get them on the downloaded version of Google earth. The picture in question was taken on New Years Day 2005. I wonder if it was someone who knew the image was taken or just people having a laugh. cb on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344794 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 22:58:41 +0000 cb 344794@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @acsimpson, your right-hand rectangle, in an older revision of the satellite data, had a gigantic "POO!" trampled into the crops growing in the field, now sadly list to time, so it's not all progress. (Story confirmed <a href="https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/where-are-you-based.6114/page-11">here</a>) gembo on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344790 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 21:07:50 +0000 gembo 344790@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @Iwrats, sensible man, adders and vipers everywhere, some, but not me would say you are not quite totally naked there if u still have your gutties on. I were right about that saddle on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344787 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 20:08:39 +0000 I were right about that saddle 344787@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @gembo New thread or it's no go. Happy to travel in hope. When I dance naked in the hills (and I do from time to time) I keep my shoes on. New thread. Route map. Mmmmm...okay? gembo on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344768 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:40:00 +0000 gembo 344768@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Tom is coming and the leader of the band We Travel In Hope is bringing her accordion. Tom has asked just in case that there will be no Naked Dancing. steveo on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344762 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 15:32:56 +0000 steveo 344762@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I've been up to the coventers grave quite a lot of hike a bike getting over the other side of the Pentlands but I'm game. chdot on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344751 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 13:21:39 +0000 chdot 344751@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Think gembo wants to lead you on a merry dance. Unmarked paths, pre-dawn? I were right about that saddle on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344750 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 13:10:37 +0000 I were right about that saddle 344750@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ It's traditional to put up a route and profile if you're doing a ride mate. Map My Ride, Ride With GPS. All that good web stuff. gembo on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344736 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 11:04:25 +0000 gembo 344736@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The Three Amigos, any advance? As I said on t(e wrong thread anyone not living in balerno might want to drive there first . Just that the cycle back after schlepping in to the Gravestone and back even with the wind behind might be a little wearisome. As mentioned upstream in this thread the route has very little obvious path. There is a meeting point where the route going in from Crosswood reservoir (where we would leave our bikes chained) is joined from the diagonal route that comes in from the Tarbrax turn where the path becomes distinct again. Both routes have obvious paths near the beginning but then these quickly Peter out and you are left scanning the horizon which is tricky into the sun for the next Way Pole. Not helped if the next Way Pole has in fact fallen over. The Sunlit Uplander has been whispering Covenanter Covenanter to me quite recently. I were right about that saddle on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344731 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 10:17:20 +0000 I were right about that saddle 344731@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The SUNLIT Uplander was created to see the sun rise over the Covenanters' Grave. acsimpson on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344726 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 00:35:13 +0000 acsimpson 344726@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @gembo, I'm definitely up for that. gembo on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344716 Fri, 22 Jan 2021 21:14:17 +0000 gembo 344716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @acsimpson, if we don’t do the Ride t9 the Sun again how about a cycle hike to the Covenanters grave on the summer solstice? All invited if allowed. acsimpson on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344715 Fri, 22 Jan 2021 21:07:20 +0000 acsimpson 344715@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I've just spotted an interesting "feature" in google maps "satellite" images of west Edinburgh. IIRC these are a a mixture of aerial and satellite images but the aerial layer doesn't appear to be consistently updated. For instance over Cammo/Barnton at the moment there are a couple of rectangles with imagery from this summer which the surrounding areas are still a few years old: <a href="https://imgur.com/nN6Xnud"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/nN6Xnudl.png"></a> Although I got the highlight wrong. The western rectangle actually extends south to Turnhouse Road. Where Meadowfield farm is still standing. acsimpson on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469&page=2#post-344690 Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:32:52 +0000 acsimpson 344690@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ When gembo mentioned the Covenanters grave up this thread I tried to locate it on OSM but sadly it hadn't yet been mapped. It does however show on osmaps online. It also shows on the landranger and explorer view levels on the magic maps site. There's an interesting article on a game Swiss cartographers play here: <a href="https://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/en/home/meta/search.detail.news.html/swisstopo-internet/news2016/didyouknow/161221.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/en/home/meta/search.detail.news.html/swisstopo-internet/news2016/didyouknow/161221.html</a> chrisfl on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469#post-344669 Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:36:12 +0000 chrisfl 344669@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ > Presumably all/most on OSM? Yes - certainly all the ones we know about. In the early days of OSM, we tried to get Ramblers interested and they had a we have the OS why would we ever need to look elsewhere. But recently through "forgotten paths" project to make sure that all rights of way are mapped on OS before a 2026 deadline in England after which they will be lost forever as a right of way. They have discovered that OSM generally does have most of these. It's also interesting that the National Trust in England are using OSM to manage there "path" assets rather than OS as they are much better represented on OSM and much easier to fix as needed. In Scotland right to roam means there is no statutory need to map paths, so they have discovered that there are loads of paths not on the beloved OS maps and therefore are looking to other sources including OSM and loads of others. This is great, because OSM gets better the more people use it, report problems and fix problems. My lesson through all this is that I was inspired by empty map and the idea of creating and open data map to rival OS. Most people need to have something tangible they can use before they get involved. minus six on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469#post-344641 Fri, 22 Jan 2021 01:17:14 +0000 minus six 344641@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ . changed my mind urchaidh on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469#post-344638 Fri, 22 Jan 2021 00:35:38 +0000 urchaidh 344638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ That Magic map is magic. Thanks for the link, hadn't seen that before. ejstubbs on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469#post-344559 Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:38:58 +0000 ejstubbs 344559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The council atlas uses <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esri">Esri</a>'s GIS products (it actually says so at the lower left of the web page) which includes OS data amongst the options selectable via the "four tiles" at the upper right of the web page. There's also <a href="https://magic.defra.gov.uk/MagicMap.aspx">Defra's Magic Map</a> which is[ based solely on the OS data - and covers the whole of the UK, unlike the council atlas. Unlike the OS' app the Magic Map does zoom in from the OS 1:25k leisure map format to the "standard" format). I find the Defra Magic Map handy for finding things like SSSIs, SPAs, RAMSAR sites, AONBs and local and national nature reserves. The council atlas does show these as well but only for the area in and around Edinburgh. EDIT: I've just noticed that the council atlas also has historical mapping. A handy alternative to the <a href="https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=5&lat=56.00000&lon=-4.00000&layers=7&b=1&z=1&point=0,0">NLS maps</a> web app - although it doesn't have the NLS' georeferenced or side-by-side options. bacam on "OS Maps - past their use by date?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20469#post-344547 Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:53:15 +0000 bacam 344547@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Oh, I forgot about the <a href="http://edinburghcouncilmaps.info/atlas/cecatlas.html">Council atlas</a> which has some fairly detailed maps, lots of council data, and even some aerial photography. It looks like the main maps are based on fairly recent Ordnance Survey. The paths around White Hill are still odd: quite different at different zoom levels.