http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Rickshaw crash involving car on Western Approach Road en Thu, 21 May 2026 08:30:01 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350325 Tue, 04 May 2021 22:13:03 +0000 the canuck 350325@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, you're correct! Google was being too clever for it's own good. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350286 Mon, 03 May 2021 22:00:29 +0000 Frenchy 350286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I <em>think</em> the account you mean spells their name with two Ts. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350285 Mon, 03 May 2021 21:50:55 +0000 the canuck 350285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I clearly have too much time on my hands, but there's a guy with that name on Twitter whose handle is a bunch of numbers, and photos include Union Jacks and football stuff.</p> <p>I'm in Twitter Jail, or I'd look him up to see if he complains about cyclists too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350284 Mon, 03 May 2021 21:39:17 +0000 CycleAlex 350284@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks like I copied in the wrong link, two very similar articles on the BBC site. Should work now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350283 Mon, 03 May 2021 21:06:03 +0000 Frenchy 350283@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That article doesn't say what they've been charged with - perhaps removed for legal reasons? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350281 Mon, 03 May 2021 20:39:56 +0000 CycleAlex 350281@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interestingly they've also been <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-56972533">charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice</a>. Wonder what they tried to do after the collision? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350280 Mon, 03 May 2021 20:10:42 +0000 chdot 350280@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“The WAR has turned into a confusing mishmash of restrictions for all vulnerable road users.”</p> <p>AND</p> <p>All the recent and planned developments seem to neither improve things much nor address options/benefit from opportunities. </p> <p>Developers seldom think ‘customers (purchases/renters) would benefit from better non-car access’. </p> <p>Disappointing but predictable. CEC Planners not demanding ‘better’ is worse than disappointing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350277 Mon, 03 May 2021 19:12:00 +0000 Cyclops 350277@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does the "No pedestrians" in LaidBack's photo 2 and 3 apply to the wide pavements they're placed on? Pedestrians are obviously allowed further west on the shared use pavement before being promptly banned again at Drysdale Rd.</p> <p>The WAR has turned into a confusing mishmash of restrictions for all vulnerable road users. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350274 Mon, 03 May 2021 18:27:04 +0000 LaidBack 350274@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>WAR signage. Biggest bike sign heading west is a warning of bikes triangle as you enter from Lothian Road. </p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/51155741733/in/album-72157682117275632/" title="Western Approach Road signage"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155741733_64540208ae.jpg" alt="Western Approach Road signage" /></a><br /> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/51156615935/in/album-72157682117275632/" title="Western Approach Road signage"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51156615935_b5263f9d0d.jpg" alt="Western Approach Road signage" /></a><br /> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/51155741393/in/datetaken/" title="Western Approach Road signage"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51155741393_c0d28d8f48.jpg" alt="Western Approach Road signage" /></a><br /> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/51156615830/in/datetaken/" title="Western Approach Road signage"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51156615830_5e14ca8abc.jpg" alt="Western Approach Road signage" /></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350273 Mon, 03 May 2021 18:19:39 +0000 LaidBack 350273@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Someone now charged on this. Really hope the victims recover from such an event. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350271 Mon, 03 May 2021 17:18:57 +0000 chdot 350271@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is NO <em>good </em>reason why there should be so much space for motors. </p> <p>Historically this is what’s left from the *grand* plan to bring the M8 into Lothian Road. </p> <p>Clearly it is of some benefit to Dalry Road. IF all the traffic was removed from the WAR and the same volume was allowed to switch...</p> <p>‘Obviously’ can’t expect any sudden changes because of one crash (however serious) BUT it’s just the latest example of why things/attitudes/policies NEED to change. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350269 Mon, 03 May 2021 16:55:29 +0000 Rosie 350269@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Western Approach road is only half tamed. It is gradually turning into a street as more residential buildings are put up beside it, but it hasn't gone the whole way yet and still looks enough like a motorway for drivers to put their feet down. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350262 Mon, 03 May 2021 11:43:53 +0000 chdot 350262@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Needs to be buses and bikes only... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350260 Mon, 03 May 2021 11:27:10 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 350260@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Morrison St link is clear"</p> <p>There's a small red circled bike sign on the left just at the junction with WAR. Would be easy to miss. All a bit of a bourach. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350256 Mon, 03 May 2021 09:56:25 +0000 LaidBack 350256@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Alex @the canuck </p> <p><blockquote>On the WAR itself, there's a bemusing mandatory cycle lane that runs from the Canning Street junction to the Sheraton service entrance, at which point cycling is banned any further on the WAR. </blockquote></p> <p>Only gone on that bit once at the height of lockdown last year. So stand corrected that the WAR east of Drysdale Road is cyclable.<br /> Looking at streetview there are loads of red circled U turn signs but only one white lamppost sign with cycling and pedestrian ban after Sheraton. Morrison St link is clear but I usually nip through via toucan. First repeat red circle is at Drysdale Rd. </p> <p>Very tragic event as crossing should be safe route. Hope those injured make full recovery. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350255 Mon, 03 May 2021 09:41:46 +0000 SRD 350255@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>horrific that they were hit on the crossing. has been wondering about it, but hadn't even occurred to me that they'd have been hit on the crossing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350248 Sun, 02 May 2021 23:59:50 +0000 CycleAlex 350248@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It seems they were hit at the toucan crossing next to Morrison Crescent rather than having ridden on the WAR itself. There’s been a few hit and runs there, speed limit/red light compliance is rather… questionable.</p> <p>On the WAR itself, there's a <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9467051,-3.2097463,3a,90y,75.34h,86.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_k6Cxk1f1l4YPbTpfSqk8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192">bemusing mandatory cycle lane</a> that runs from the Canning Street junction to the Sheraton service entrance, at which point cycling is banned any further on the WAR. I can imagine quite a few people seeing the cycle lane and assuming you can cycle much further. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350247 Sun, 02 May 2021 22:58:21 +0000 stiltskin 350247@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The WAR is really confusing. Didn’t it used to be the case that you could only cycle on the first 50 yards or so from Lothian Rd to the junction with Canning Street? I notice from street view that there is a ‘no cycling’ sign as you join the WAR from the Morrison Link. How does that tie in? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350244 Sun, 02 May 2021 22:41:49 +0000 mga 350244@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On the toucan crossing I believe. The WAR really is an outdated concept. Give drivers four lanes and they drive like it's a motorway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350243 Sun, 02 May 2021 22:37:46 +0000 the canuck 350243@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thank you! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350241 Sun, 02 May 2021 22:00:48 +0000 LaidBack 350241@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@the canuck Yes I used to think that until I discovered that the eastern section is quite legal to cycle on from Lothian Road to Drysdale Road. This newish street links Dundee St to WAR beside Moda City new build and Fountainpark. Beyond the traffic lights there cycling is red circled. So you shouldn't cycle to the Diggers pub etc!</p> <p>I often cycle the short section from toucan crossing on all manner of bikes but 'know' a lot of drivers 'think' I shouldn't.<br /> There is a shared use path there but dug up a bit. This is useful to avoid the 'hard to use' zig zag ramp that aligns with Leamington route. Basically the WAR is becoming just another street at that end and does have bike and bus lane markings in places. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350238 Sun, 02 May 2021 21:37:17 +0000 the canuck 350238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm confused; I thought rickshaws were human or bike powered, and I thought cycles couldn't go on the Western Approach? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350230 Sun, 02 May 2021 18:59:48 +0000 chdot 350230@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>A Police Scotland spokesman said a 25-year-old man had been charged. </p> <p>He is due to appear at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Monday. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-56963067.amp" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-56963067.amp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20574#post-350228 Sun, 02 May 2021 18:40:03 +0000 LaidBack 350228@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.thenational.scot/news/19274353.edinburgh-rickshaw-crash-three-people-seriously-injured/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thenational.scot/news/19274353.edinburgh-rickshaw-crash-three-people-seriously-injured/</a></p> <p><blockquote>Three people, the rider and two passengers of the rickshaw, were taken to the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh with serious injuries.</p> <p>A Police Scotland spokesman said: “A 25-year-old man has been arrested in connection with the incident and enquiries are ongoing to establish the full circumstances.</p> <p>“Anyone with information, dash-cam footage or private CCTV footage that could help with enquiries is asked to contact us on 101.”</blockquote> </p>