http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Direct Action 6pm Wednesday 23rd (Lanark Road Ride): and subsequent developments en Sun, 31 May 2026 10:04:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374922 Fri, 10 May 2024 10:19:04 +0000 Dave 374922@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I spent a few minutes looking through my backlog of video files, and I'm not sure there were ever bollards at Lanark Rd nursery. I've got video from before any bollards were fitted at all (but the lanes and floating parking were painted in) and then videos with bollards as you see them today. If there were bollards they must have been very fleeting.</p> <p>A better question would be why they didn't standardise the bollards at resurfacing, given that the nursery business has closed down permanently </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374918 Thu, 09 May 2024 21:33:54 +0000 Frenchy 374918@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ta! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374917 Thu, 09 May 2024 21:14:18 +0000 Dave 374917@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, I'd struggle to get you a reference but I think they almost immediately removed the bollards outside the nursery if they were even there (at this time we were clients of the nursery).</p> <p>I didn't really understand the logic, as it implies acceptance that floating parking is more dangerous (than simply parking on a narrow road with the same traffic clearance) but then it makes the "oh no! A cyclist might pass my car on the inside" factor /worse/ as you've removed what was previously some margin for error </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374916 Thu, 09 May 2024 16:34:10 +0000 Frenchy 374916@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo and @fimm - I went up Lanark Road again the other day. The two spots where I thought bollards are missing are:</p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9083159,-3.2709427,3a,39y,20.36h,79.19t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s3mK1BTLuKPUytmBdjaxHdA!2e0!5s20220701T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D3mK1BTLuKPUytmBdjaxHdA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D310.8556%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu">The parking bay at the very top of the hill, next to Cranley nursery</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9143298,-3.2616258,3a,75y,32.29h,69.93t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1syZxyFjhsjft9nloH937CdQ!2e0!5s20210701T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu">The parking bay outside the nursery near Dovecot Park</a></p> <p>From Streetview it looks like these two spots have never actually had bollards - does anyone know if that is due to the nurseries? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374839 Sat, 04 May 2024 08:30:12 +0000 Dave 374839@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've often thought it would make an interesting case study (at least interesting to road layout geeks) because there doesn't seem to be much method in how the lanes are laid out at all. </p> <p>When you get to the end of the uber bus stop going downhill (alongside the golf course) they've made the lane so narrow that it makes me sweat to get the trailer through the first slot between kerb and bollard. But the lane for cars is very wide. On the uphill side the cars have a less generous allocation and the bike lane is more than double the width of the downhill side. </p> <p>Some bus stops cast a 'shadow' forward that leaves missing bollards where drivers then park. But the stop with the closest bollards to it only has a couple of metres clearance and the buses use it just fine. etc. etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374833 Fri, 03 May 2024 20:25:00 +0000 gembo 374833@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The path is wider at the top heading east. It narrows and gets bumpier on the steepest section then widens out again. I think this mirrors the actual road widths.</p> <p>We had one white van parked on double yellows in the lane today and then another white van parked on the pavement.</p> <p>I have been up and down it countless times without issue. It should be celebrated for the imperfect thing it is - unless you are disgruntled about having to park in your drive rather than on the street outside your house which you don’t own </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374824 Fri, 03 May 2024 09:10:20 +0000 fimm 374824@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote> many drivers seem to like parking as close as possible to the cycle lane, very often straddling the white line on "their" side.</blockquote><br /> One of the first cars I encountered, up by the nursery, was parked as far as possible into the cycle lane. My have been incompetence, of course....<br /> <blockquote>...many drivers seem to have a very poor awareness of the size of their vehicle, typically erring towards it being bigger than it actually is - sometimes almost comically so...</blockquote><br /> I've had this problem when driving, and yes it is worse if your hire car is some massive horrible thing that they've "upgraded" you to, which made my husband happy (but not me). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374809 Thu, 02 May 2024 15:47:57 +0000 ejstubbs 374809@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>it felt that they were narrower in one or two places</em></p> <p>Not helped IMO by the somewhat haphazard placing of the bollards. There is one stretch of parking (by the park, heading out of town) where the bollards have been installed between the two lines marking the boundary between the parking spaces and the cycle lane, which I believe is as it should be. At every other parking location the bollards have been installed <em>within</em> the cycle lane, with the two white lines on the parking side.</p> <p>I had been under the fond impression that the two white lines were intended to ensure that a modicum of space would exist between parked vehicles and the cycle lane. But with the bollards wholly within the cycle lane, many drivers seem to like parking as close as possible to the cycle lane, very often straddling the white line on "their" side.</p> <p>A similar problem with the bollards being installed within the cycle lane exists where there are <u>no</u> parking spaces. I'm pretty sure I've seen elsewhere (maybe Comiston Road?) that the bollards were installed <u>on</u> the white line. Putting them in the cycle lane just feels like a perpetuation of the "we can't possibly be seen to be taking too much space away from motor vehicles" attitude.</p> <p>It's only four or five inches I'm quibbling about, if that (though more in the parking spaces instances), but that's a much larger proportion of the width of a cycle lane than it is of the remainder of the road*. And the likely outcome of a cyclist hitting a bollard is much worse than a motor vehicle - we're basically talking the difference between a scratch on some paint work vs physical injury, or even worse if the cyclist falls in to the main part of the carriageway as a result.</p> <p><em>* Then again, many drivers seem to have a very poor awareness of the size of their vehicle, typically erring towards it being bigger than it actually is - sometimes almost comically so. I have a theory the that over-estimation of the size of ones vehicle grows exponentially with the <u>actual</u> size of said vehicle, with the result that some people who drive unreasonably large SUVs seem to think that they need more room than a bus or HGV.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374802 Thu, 02 May 2024 11:04:07 +0000 fimm 374802@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cycled down the Lanark Road lanes yesterday, for the first time in over a year. I can confirm that the bollards are all back, and I had no issues with cars parked where they shouldn't be, but ouch, the lanes are still bumpy as anything. And it felt that they were narrower in one or two places? That might just be me, of course, as it has been a while since I've ridden them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374647 Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:50:39 +0000 gembo 374647@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No I think they are almost all back now @Frenchy. Working well save the odd taxi etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374645 Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:43:21 +0000 Frenchy 374645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That reminds me...am I right that many of the lane defenders which were removed for the resurfacing work have still never been put back in? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-374628 Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:41:51 +0000 chdot 374628@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Lanark Road is one of 21 roads in the Capital where the 40mph speed limit will be replaced by a new 30mph cap </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-roads-citys-last-40mph-limits-set-to-disappear-this-summer-as-30mph-signs-go-upedinburgh-roads-citys-last-40mph-limits-set-to-disappear-this-summer-as-30mph-signs-go-up-4598281" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-roads-citys-last-40mph-limits-set-to-disappear-this-summer-as-30mph-signs-go-upedinburgh-roads-citys-last-40mph-limits-set-to-disappear-this-summer-as-30mph-signs-go-up-4598281</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-372878 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 18:56:09 +0000 LaidBack 372878@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From Portobello I think :-)</p> <p>Some riders don't like mudguards it seems. No off the shelf items for the big front wheels built at Bicycle Works. Conventionally recumbent trikes run 20" wheels at front but slow trend maybe from Maria Leijerstam (She cycled her Full Fat ICE to South Pole in 2013). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-372858 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 10:52:38 +0000 neddie 372858@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No mudguards. Obviously not from round here </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-372857 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:27:48 +0000 gembo 372857@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The very fella </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=5#post-372856 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 23:02:16 +0000 LaidBack 372856@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/53449588668/in/datetaken/" title="ICE Adventure Red 26 hardtail"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53449588668_a6b9399047.jpg" alt="ICE Adventure Red 26 hardtail" /></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-372853 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 21:35:46 +0000 gembo 372853@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spotted recumbent trike at this very Junction today. Two flags.</p> <p>A Jolly Roger and a red flag with blue and yellow cross not sure which nation that is..</p> <p>EDIT - Flag of Orkney</p> <p>At the same time as these roadworks, the other end of my commute is also going to be subject to severe delays from Monday 15th too.</p> <p>I will take the towpath and maybe WoL path to avoid. If I remember. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-372838 Fri, 12 Jan 2024 08:45:53 +0000 chdot 372838@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>We will start resurfacing Lanark Road West between Bridge Road and Ravelrig Hill from Monday 15 January for four weeks. Diversions will be in place. This is part of our ongoing roads maintenance programme. Follow @edintravel for regular updates on roadworks.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/edinburgh_cc/status/1745471652530446480" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/edinburgh_cc/status/1745471652530446480</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370813 Fri, 29 Sep 2023 18:06:09 +0000 gembo 370813@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes no yellow lines </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370807 Fri, 29 Sep 2023 15:09:11 +0000 ejstubbs 370807@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The bus stops should be marked with the thick single yellow line which means "no parking or waiting here at any time" as <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9021672,-3.2127983,3a,30.5y,51.73h,78.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2GhK3NJTpbdSYDqtmbTWPg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu">here</a>. (I think that means it's basically a 10m long stretch of <a href="https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/learning-to-drive/the-highway-code-uk-road-signs-and-meanings/#:~:text=6.25%20a%20month*.-,%27No%20stopping%27%20sign,certain%20times%20of%20the%20day.">clearway</a>.</p> <p>From what I remember from the last time I traversed Lanark Road (Tuesday 26th*) the vast majority of the yellow lines (DYLs and bus stop stops) have yet to be replaced. I keep meaning to check whether the signage is still there, but keep forgetting. (I can't remember whether the lines aren't valid without signage, or vice versa. Or maybe it needs both for it to be enforceable?)</p> <p>I did note that they had started painting in some of the parking spaces. At least, they'd painted in <u>half</u> the quantity of parking spaces outside the Army place just up from the Inglis Green Road junction, which meant that half the cars were parked in the marked spaces - even though there still weren't any DYLs there - and the other half in the cycle lane &lt;rolleyes&gt;.</p> <p>On Sunday it will be ELEVEN WEEKS since Longstone Community Council Tweeted that the road markings would be reinstated "within the week". There is no way on &lt;insert your choice of supreme spiritual being here&gt;'s good green Earth that such a delay would have been allowed if the delay was inconveniencing motorists - there would have been fulminating articles in the EEN at the very least, a holy row breaking out on social media, and somehow the council would have found a way to re-prioritise other work and get it fixed. But apparently if it's "only cyclists" - who, let's not forget, are being put <strong>at physical risk</strong> by people parking in the cycle lanes - it doesn't matter. Grrr....</p> <p><em>* I was in the car that day, and my intention was to upload my dashcam footage of Lanark Road to show the still-unfinished state of the infrastructure. Weirdly, though, <u>the dashcam didn't record that part of my journey</u>, although the sections of the journey both before and after were present on the SD card. Spooky or what?</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370804 Fri, 29 Sep 2023 12:12:33 +0000 gembo 370804@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The people replacing bollards have left unbollarded spaces at bus stops but guess what? Yeah they are filled with parked cars </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370791 Thu, 28 Sep 2023 21:23:07 +0000 gembo 370791@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The video says it all </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370780 Thu, 28 Sep 2023 13:46:34 +0000 Dave 370780@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ended my two month twitter holiday!</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1707367341279838403" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1707367341279838403</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370765 Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:22:25 +0000 gembo 370765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Took the semi protected parking lane west last night</p> <p>TA Building at start of Lanark Road no bollards so parking in lane, slightly further wes one car in floating parking and then start of bollards, ran for first hill only. Then parking all the way to a Gillespies X Road. Heading back down the hill is worse as all bollards on first descent then suddenly no bollards and parking begins on the middle descent then on the last descent bollards again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370679 Fri, 22 Sep 2023 19:50:11 +0000 gembo 370679@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looked like tons more wands replaced again </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370610 Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:32:32 +0000 gembo 370610@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe fifty wands now all on the North Side of the road and interspersed with vehicles. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370499 Fri, 15 Sep 2023 22:25:58 +0000 gembo 370499@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are five wands now on the north side.</p> <p>Many parked cars in way of further installation, </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370495 Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:50:14 +0000 chdot 370495@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Is this still under an ETRO?”</p> <p>Good question!</p> <p>Expect CEC has lost track… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370494 Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:23:59 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 370494@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is this still under an ETRO? Surely this long hiatus means the clock resets to 18 months, starting from whenever the contractor bothers his arse (suspect I’m not wrong on gender given events so far) to come back and reinstate the scheme ;)</p> <p>Sauce/goose/gander etc </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20621&page=4#post-370492 Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:43:35 +0000 chdot 370492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The response I got was “in the coming weeks” - this was a few weeks ago. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/sannedd/status/1702725611796517173" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sannedd/status/1702725611796517173</a> </p>