http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Email to Peter's Yard about Bike Parking en Tue, 09 Jun 2026 17:52:33 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22438 Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:54 +0000 gembo 22438@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was reading a chapter in Moby-Dick the other night where the captain of another ship is rowing over and they think he has a coffee pot with him. The other mates on the Pequod are Flask and Stubbs. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22435 Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:13:43 +0000 Kim 22435@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I should just like to apologise for doubting the existence of Peter in the post above, apparently <a href="https://twitter.com/PetersYard/status/30699008024379392">he does really exist</a>... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22252 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:21 +0000 RJ 22252@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IIRC, Rebus was pretty good at cadging lifts ... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22180 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:35:32 +0000 LaidBack 22180@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Did Rebus ever cycle anywhere though? </em></p> <p>I think he was more at home in his car... Rebus likes rock and rockers like to drive (apart from Bono). </p> <p>Wallander* on the other hand likes classical music including opera. One episode had him listening to Faure's Requiem - (ideal cycling music!) <em>.... no wait a minute ... Inspector Morse liked the classics and he drove an old Jaguar</em></p> <p>Then again the Jag never really worked so I heard...</p> <p>* Although the version with Rolf Lasgaard has Wallander listening to rock for some odd reason. Odd because the rest is much closer to the book. Whereas Krister Henrikson's ones are a bit like 'Hill St Blues' with lots of side characters. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22097 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:34:17 +0000 spytefear 22097@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wasn't Rebus half cut on the IPA most of the time?<br /> Not much bike parking outside the Oxford bar... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22093 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:19:46 +0000 Arellcat 22093@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A bit like Ken Stott's gruff, portly, chain-smoking portrayal of Rebus, compared with a far-too-clean-looking John Hannah. Did Rebus ever cycle anywhere though? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22078 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:40:08 +0000 LaidBack 22078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>You think Wallander would be a bit cheerier with all those cinnabuns to hand...</em></p> <p>The last BBC4 one had Rolf Lassgard playing Wallander. He really looked like one too many cardomon buns would have finished him. According to my wife his is the most accurate version of the maverick, unfit Ystad detective with a penchant for malt whiskies.</p> <p>Krister Henrikson portrayal on the other hand has been known to cycle (under doctors orders). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22068 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:32:38 +0000 Stepdoh 22068@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You think Wallander would be a bit cheerier with all those cinnabuns to hand... #omnomnom </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22041 Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:19:59 +0000 LaidBack 22041@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><strong>Kim</strong> <em>Not so sure that "Peter" is in deed a Peter after all... </em></p> <p>But maybe more real than Mr Kipling?</p> <p>I'm a bit worried about the Ystad connection as that town seems to have a constant crime wave ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22031 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:31:19 +0000 kaputnik 22031@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The name is taken from Moby-Dick</em></p> <p>Hence the logo of a two-tailed mermaid, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7427105.stm">rather than a girl in a crown doing naughty things with her legs</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22024 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:02:43 +0000 Kim 22024@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interestingly <a href="http://twitter.com/petersyard">Peter's Yard twitter account</a> is in the name of Wendy Wilson-Bett, Location: Shropshire, Edinburgh, London. Bio: Enjoying the journey of building a Swedish bakery &amp; coffee house in Edinburgh &amp; selling our handmade crispbreads to great shops &amp; restaurants across the UK/Ire</p> <p>Not so sure that "Peter" is in deed a Peter after all... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22014 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:18:55 +0000 LaidBack 22014@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some background...</p> <p><em>Sometimes, it is the simplest ideas which capture hearts and minds and this bakery (near Ystad) in the heart of the Swedish country-side became far more popular than we ever would have thought.</p> <p>Today, it is as popular as ever, selling a range of artisan bread, crispbreads. pastries, jams and ice cream. 

A desire to make the leap from countryside to city life led me to Scotland and Edinburgh, where Peter´s Yard coffee house and bakery opened near the University in the new Quartermile development at the very end of 2007. 

Here we have a base of loyal customers who we have started to know as friends and I have the privilege of meeting fascinating people who visit our coffee house every day. As for where next on the journey? Who knows?</p> <p><strong>Peter</strong></em></p> <p>Yes it's all real.<br /> <a href="http://www.petersyard.com/">WARNING: Contains pictures of cakes</a></p> <p>Quick search has found that Olof Viktors Cafe + Bakery is here...<br /> Glemminge, Österlenvägen 86, 270 21 Ystad, Skåne Län<br /> The Swedes like a good story (Swedish Wallander is great and it's fun to see that Edinburgh has an Ystad connection - Glemminge is 15km away)<br /> <a href="http://www.olofviktors.se/index.jsp?id=1&amp;akt=1&amp;sub=0&amp;lang=se">Välkommen till Olof Viktors!</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22004 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:27:58 +0000 chdot 22004@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> And thanks a lot for your -email.</p> <p>Best,<br /> Peter<br /> "</p> <p>I'm shocked!</p> <p>You mean "Peter" is a real person? </p> <p>"The name is taken from Moby-Dick; after Pequod was rejected by one of the co-founders, the company was named for the first mate on the Pequod, Starbuck."</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbucks" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbucks</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-22002 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:20:38 +0000 LaidBack 22002@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's good. Sounds though that he is in Sweden at moment?</p> <p>The very fact that signs have gone up shows you that cycling is percieved as an 'increasing nuisance' to QM.</p> <p>This developer provides underground garaging for hundreds of cars which will in the future join the long queues along by Heriots.<br /> They should 'encourage' cycling by providing racks as you suggest. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21999 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:41:29 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 21999@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Got a nice response from PY. </p> <p>Hi Anthony,</p> <p>you´ve got a very good point. In the first year (2008) we had several discussions with the developer regarding this problem. The result was a number of stands outside our american colleagues. Not a great improvement for our customers.</p> <p>I´m more than happy to bring back the discussion, ones again, to see what could be done. I will forward your e-mail as a start and set up a meeting when <br /> I´m coming over next.</p> <p>And thanks a lot for your -email.</p> <p>Best,<br /> Peter </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21996 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:24:47 +0000 Kim 21996@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD is this the <a href="http://twitpic.com/3sc8dc">alternative cycle parking</a> which you are referring to? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21961 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:39:27 +0000 Kim 21961@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It looks more like the work of the Quarter Mile developers rather than Peter's Yard, who are after all just tenants. Two thoughts: </p> <p>first, I do remember reading something about the legal standing of such notices (<a href="http://www.citycycling.co.uk/issue51/parking1.html">but can find the source</a>)</p> <p>second, it might be more fruitful to try and get them to <a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1533">take this approach</a>... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21956 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:40:02 +0000 wingpig 21956@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I expect they'll be well aware than anyone targeting them isn't likely to readily divert to Starbucks, but it's worth a try.<br /> The section fenced-in by the fence on which the nice new signs have been mounted doesn't appear to be directly bordering or belonging to any particular property and it's a shame to waste the nice big windows at PY by chaining a cycle up out of sight round the other side of the block, increasing paranoia, potentially reducing stay-length and purchase-quantity. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21954 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:20:32 +0000 steveo 21954@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe point them to the councils offer of buying stands on the cheap. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21953 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:17:59 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 21953@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Damn, should have mentioned that and say they might lose custom to the Seattle mob! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21952 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:17:50 +0000 kaputnik 21952@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well said Anth. I might take the 10 minutes to send a similar note myself this weekend. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21950 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:10:52 +0000 SRD 21950@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I must be naturally cynical - I'd been wondering how long it would be before signs went up there! I believe there are some sheffield racks round on the side near Starbucks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2084#post-21949 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:01:50 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 21949@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dear Sirs</p> <p>I'm a fan, and reasonably regular customer, of your Edinburgh bakery/cafe - arriving by bike en route to work in the mornings. At least once a month a group of us meet up to chat and indulge in cakes (calorie-neutral, you see, since we rode there...). Anyway, this morning we noticed new signs by part of the railings where we normally chain up declaring "No Bicycles Please". A polite notice, granted, but not terribly helpful.</p> <p>There are some other railings, but when busy (the cafe being located beside one of the busiest cycle routes in the city) it can be difficult (occasionally impossible) to find a spot. Those which have the sign attached appear to border the plush flats beside the cafe, and so I assume the sign was at their behest rather than that of Peter's Yard. Not exactly encouraging a continental style cafe-cycling culture, the thought process seems to have been 'stop cyclists parking here by means of discouragement' rather than 'stop cyclists parking here by offer of something better and more secure'. Not really a thought process I can see being replicated in bike-friendly Scandinavia.</p> <p>The knock-on is, of course, that if there is no space people will simply ride by. Even now, in the midst of winter, there are often a lot of bikes parked outside - come the summer, with passing commuters and students, that number will only multiply. Or would. If there was space to park.</p> <p>I don't know if it is at all possible for you to speak to the developers of that area and even see about getting a few Sheffield Stands in. I can't honestly say that the possiblity of not getting a space to lock the bike would tempt me away from making the diversion off the main road, but it would be a painful disappointment to have to carry on riding by for lack of that space due to a few residents, who have to virtually lean out of windows to see the railings in question, complaining and retaining the 'blank' nature of the area seemingly devoid of any life save for that in your cafe.</p> <p>Regards<br /> Anthony Robson </p>