http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “Sustrans secondment boosts Scotland’s Railway sustainability strategy“ en Sun, 17 May 2026 19:48:52 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359354 Sun, 03 Apr 2022 01:18:44 +0000 Tulyar 359354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Pictures of 8 bikes on Class 158 2 levels with upper bikes wedged against ceiling 140 seats 78 passengers 8 bikes </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359353 Sun, 03 Apr 2022 01:15:52 +0000 Tulyar 359353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot you are aware that HST's are having 3 pairs of seats removed to leave 6 tip up seats (3 metres of bodyside space) expected to be completed by end of August this year officially 4 bikes but.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359352 Sun, 03 Apr 2022 01:13:05 +0000 Tulyar 359352@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The results for 1st 3 months of HiBike (30 EAPC) in Inverness are interesting, with a mix of permanent wired (&amp; charging) hire points, and the ability to have a pop-up virtual hire point already used to add one at Forestry Centre</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/h52/51978638040" rel="nofollow">https://www.flickr.com/photos/h52/51978638040</a></p> <p>@Morningsider - based on 20+ years of counting bikes on trains, and data where operators collect this for trains, trams and buses</p> <p>Provide for bikes = 2-4% of passenger seats - CUK policy 2004 suggested 2% as dedicated for cycles with 2% 'flexible space' but for first 100 seats 6 spaces (3+3)</p> <p>On popular routes typically 10% of passengers travelling with bikes, with trains filled to 40-50% of seated capacity</p> <p>Ardrossan 'boat trains' typically have 10% of passengers with bikes say 130 pax &amp; 13 bikes on 3-coach 260 seat train </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359246 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 22:11:58 +0000 chdot 359246@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/cyclingedin/status/1508914269915598855" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cyclingedin/status/1508914269915598855</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359245 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 20:04:37 +0000 Morningsider 359245@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Can we not just save the 18 months and quickly crowd source the strategy. Starter for 10:</p> <p>1. Safe, continuous, high-quality cycle and walking routes to railway stations.<br /> 2. Properly secure, covered cycle parking at stations.<br /> 3. Reasonable space for bike carriage on trains (say 6 bikes for every two carriages - tip-up seats can be used).<br /> 4. Public bike hire at key railway stations. This needs to be cheap and easily accessible, no elaborate scheme joining criteria - which killed to previous Bike and Go scheme. Must be integrated with rail ticketing system.<br /> 5. Integrated smart ticketing allowing cross modal public transport/cycle hire travel.</p> <p>In the end though, this new strategy is just more displacement activity. Scotland is hardly short of transport strategies, plans, frameworks, visions, statements or reviews. What will this one really add? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359244 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 18:59:42 +0000 Rosie 359244@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Yodhrin - that's very true. I was thinking of "bikes on trains" for touring rather than commuting. I was impressed when travelling through Belgium of the warehouse-sized parking of bikes on double-decker racks at stations, presumably from people leaving their bicycles at the station and picking up another bike at the destination. I imagined that you would leave your good bike at home, and cycle an old banger to the station. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359242 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 18:16:00 +0000 Yodhrin 359242@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bikes on trains is certainly good, but there also needs to be a commitment to providing covered secure *and monitored*(even if that's just a bloke in a room somewhere looking at a bank of CCTV screens for multiple stations) bike parking at every station even the suburban and exurban ones, police willing to actually show up promptly when that monitoring detects a theft in progress, and let's be honest, even that won't do much good if they don't do something about the sodding ticket prices.</p> <p>A proper Dutch-style transit-branded bike share scheme that's explicitly targeted at rail users(and doesn't cost much if anything at a destination for people who've bought rail tickets to go there or have season tickets) and is in every city &amp; town whether the local council can be arsed or not is also important I think.</p> <p>If we can't get to a place where people are comfortable leaving their bike at a station near home in the reasonably certain knowledge that they'll be able to get a bike temporarily at their destination and their own bike will be there when they get back again, I suspect the bike/rail intersection will remain largely confined to leisure riders and the occasional committed person willing to put sustainability over guaranteed punctuality. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359235 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:59:40 +0000 steveo 359235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Getting a bike on the train puts me off so many trips, I just can't face the stress of turning up and not getting on when its the only train that fits my tight timings. Booking is such a faff that I'll often just take the car instead. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359234 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:45:50 +0000 chdot 359234@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Worrrabout the bicycle spaces on trains?“</p> <p>Well yes. </p> <p>Given the recent/current reduction in passenger numbers, good reason for taking out some seats and actually encouraging people/families to travel with bikes. </p> <p>I <em>think</em> I’ve seen more bikes in recent months - 5 (inc Brompton) on a 2 coach, 2 space, 158 last week. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359233 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:35:51 +0000 Rosie 359233@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's a thread on Facebook and everyone including me is saying Worrrabout the bicycle spaces on trains? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359231 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:28:36 +0000 Morningsider 359231@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This isn't just a project, it's a special strategic project. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20895#post-359230 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:55:15 +0000 chdot 359230@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oooh</p> <p>“</p> <p>John Lauder, deputy CEO of Sustrans, will join Scotland’s Railway in April on an 18-month secondment to lead a special strategic project to reduce car journeys to the nation’s train stations. </p> <p>John will work with Network Rail Scotland and ScotRail to create a new strategy for Scotland’s Railway aimed at promoting sustainable travel options and reducing passengers’ reliance on cars. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/sustrans-secondment-boosts-scotlands-railway-sustainability-strategy" rel="nofollow">https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/sustrans-secondment-boosts-scotlands-railway-sustainability-strategy</a> </p>