http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Getting To Ratho Climbing (and surf) Centre With A Cargo Bike en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:07:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-381825 Mon, 03 Nov 2025 18:49:15 +0000 chdot 381825@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Launching this Wednesday (November 5), the service will initially run three return journeys per day, seven days a week. And from November 26, this will increase to six return trips daily, linking George Street, Haymarket, and Corstorphine directly with Lost Shore Surf Resort at Ratho. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-lost-shore-surf-resort-shuttle-bus-5386060" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-lost-shore-surf-resort-shuttle-bus-5386060</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-378492 Thu, 30 Jan 2025 14:42:20 +0000 chdot 378492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>#Edinwebcast</p> <p>Petition for #PublicTransport to Ed International Climbing Arena #EICA<br /> &gt;1000 sigs</p> <p>speaker: @staceyoflaherty.bsky.social</p> <p>Supported by #LostShore international surf centre</p> <p>Cllr @stephenjenkinson.bsky.social seeks wider transport links #Ratho #JupiterArtland etc</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/spokes.org.uk/post/3lgxhqqjva22d" rel="nofollow">https://bsky.app/profile/spokes.org.uk/post/3lgxhqqjva22d</a></p> <p>“<br /> #Edinwebcast</p> <p>#PublicTransport to #EICA</p> <p>Cllr @chasbooth.bsky.social seeks improved #activetravel towpath link</p> <p>Cllr @dastonsnp.bsky.social amendt seeks early discussions on bus to #EICA #Ratho #RBS #LostShore etc</p> <p>Cllr Lang concern if Ratho bus diluted</p> <p>Both amend'ts agreed, will be report to Cttee</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/spokes.org.uk/post/3lgximbrto22d" rel="nofollow">https://bsky.app/profile/spokes.org.uk/post/3lgximbrto22d</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376342 Wed, 28 Aug 2024 14:30:03 +0000 neddie 376342@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is this so you can "live the dream" by driving there, getting fat, and pretending you're a fit young sea-bleached-blond Californian, but without ever suffering the indignity of getting wet? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376340 Wed, 28 Aug 2024 13:35:28 +0000 chdot 376340@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/lost-shore-first-look-at-the-ps55-million-newbridge-surf-resorts-three-new-restaurants-4758939" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/lost-shore-first-look-at-the-ps55-million-newbridge-surf-resorts-three-new-restaurants-4758939</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376216 Fri, 16 Aug 2024 08:44:55 +0000 chdot 376216@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/outdoors/lost-shore-edinburghs-ps55-million-surf-resort-prepares-for-launch-4744200" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/outdoors/lost-shore-edinburghs-ps55-million-surf-resort-prepares-for-launch-4744200</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376148 Mon, 12 Aug 2024 08:45:17 +0000 SF 376148@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There was a path on the 'other' side of the canal which came out just south of the canal bridge at the EICA. I used it on occasion but I believe the access to it from a path down the side of Hallcroft Park has been blocked by the building work. It dropped very steeply to the canal side before climbing back up to the EICA access road. Shame they couldn't have done something with that. You can just see the path above the stored containers in this screenshot.<br /> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/2q9yk9T"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53918094959_63fc0568b6_h.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2q9yk9T">Screenshot_20240812_082925_Outdooractive</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/116240142@N04/">BTP</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376121 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 13:54:16 +0000 Morningsider 376121@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>...the access ramp is too steep to qualify for funding from active travel charity Sustrans.</blockquote> It is taxpayer money, distributed via Sustrans. If Sustrans are the problem then there are other routes to get the cash to the Council. Also, after donkeys years of building absolute #### Sustrans now choose to get sniffy!</p> <p><blockquote>...the city council faced having to pay Scottish Canals to lease the air above the canal, costing at least £821,000 over a 50-year term.</blockquote>Scottish Canals are owned by Scottish Ministers. Is it right that their demand for cash is preventing a development which supports Scottish Government policy? Especially as the cash is from another public body? It makes no sense.</p> <p><blockquote>It was also unclear who would have legal responsibility for maintenance of the new bridge</blockquote>Then clarify it! It's either the Council or Scottish Canals, or the Council and Scottish Canals. Seems relatively straightforward. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376115 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 11:51:18 +0000 neddie 376115@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If they won't build a footbridge, that only leaves one option - appropriate as much of the existing road bridge as needed for footway/cycleway and connect up the pavement either side of it to the Wave Garden and Climbing Arena</p> <p><a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/4wnhrSTMUx7a9mnUA" rel="nofollow">https://maps.app.goo.gl/4wnhrSTMUx7a9mnUA</a></p> <p>With potential for an adequately graded path down to the towpath here:</p> <p><a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ZCTmzuaugmSLfcJ9" rel="nofollow">https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ZCTmzuaugmSLfcJ9</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376114 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 10:56:54 +0000 chdot 376114@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>To be fair…</p> <p>This is what SA thinks -</p> <p>“</p> <p>This is the worst possible outcome.</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-bridge-linking-edinburgh-international-climbing-arena-and-surf-resort-set-to-be-abandoned-4733588" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-bridge-linking-edinburgh-international-climbing-arena-and-surf-resort-set-to-be-abandoned-4733588</a>. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/drscottarthurmp/status/1821544823397941655" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/drscottarthurmp/status/1821544823397941655</a></p> <p>No idea what he will do… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376113 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 10:43:33 +0000 neddie 376113@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>£821,000 over 50 years is £16,420 per annum. (And far less than that in real terms, e.g. £16k in 20 years time will be worth around £8k in today's money.)</p> <p>Hardly a significant outlay to the council. Perhaps they are just abandonning on "principle" of not paying Scottish Canals? Although principles like that don't seem to apply when it comes to motoring, or other matters... double standards </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376111 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 10:24:01 +0000 Dave 376111@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's just ("just") an incentives problem. I don't think there can be many politicians who actively don't believe science so much as they just have a strong incentive not to act. Look at, for example, taking all the space on Morrison St that could have been segregated cycle routes between CCWEL and the big offices. All so that vehicles which don't comply with LEZ (10+ year old vehicles) get a shortcut.</p> <p>You could well ask, ok, why does Scott Arthur not act as if he believes in the science. But it's sadly futile. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376110 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 10:12:06 +0000 neddie 376110@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And so they've managed to create two car-based developments with one stone.</p> <p>They're just not taking this climate "emergency" seriously, are they?</p> <p>What is wrong with people? Don't they see what's coming? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376109 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:31:56 +0000 Dave 376109@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They could still build the access to the towpath without a bridge, if they are going to value engineer anything. </p> <p>It feels weird that Sustrans will fund cosmetic upgrades in the city centre but not level access to the canal because it's not quite level enough.</p> <p>We've been driving the kids to Ratho for holiday club. It's only a 30 minute cycle but I can't sell either leaving the bike locked to itself on the towpath or venturing on some gravel expedition. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-376107 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:32:47 +0000 chdot 376107@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The proposed bridge, together with a new path, was hailed as a “much-needed active travel link” when the plans first emerged in 2019. But although a design has now been completed, the access ramp is too steep to qualify for funding from active travel charity Sustrans.</p> <p>And the city council faced having to pay Scottish Canals to lease the air above the canal, costing at least £821,000 over a 50-year term. It was also unclear who would have legal responsibility for maintenance of the new bridge</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-bridge-linking-edinburgh-international-climbing-arena-and-surf-resort-set-to-be-abandoned-4733588?" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-bridge-linking-edinburgh-international-climbing-arena-and-surf-resort-set-to-be-abandoned-4733588?</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-374084 Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:04:53 +0000 chdot 374084@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Great day at the Edinburgh International Climbing Arena but why on earth is there no bus stop outside Europe's largest climbing centre, with the final stop on the number 20 a full 15 minute walk through a building site to the edge of Ratho? </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/CyclingEdin/status/1769315993820500367" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/CyclingEdin/status/1769315993820500367</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-373331 Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:50:46 +0000 chdot 373331@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p> “At a time when public swimming pools in Edinburgh are threatened with closure due to the underfunding of local government, a publicly owned bank is dishing out tax payers money to a private developer to open a surf centre. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sir-david-murray-benefiting-388m-32096961" rel="nofollow">https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sir-david-murray-benefiting-388m-32096961</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-371958 Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:31:07 +0000 chdot 371958@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>“The active, blasting quarry is situated in an area designated countryside by Edinburgh Council and at the centre of a “Recreational Triangle” that includes Jupiter Artland, the Edinburgh International Climbing Arena, and the soon to be completed Lost Shore Surf Resort.”</p> <p>“</p> <p> <a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/plans-to-expand-bonnington-quarry-spark-anger-as-residents-fear-harm-to-health-and-homes-4424435" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/plans-to-expand-bonnington-quarry-spark-anger-as-residents-fear-harm-to-health-and-homes-4424435</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-371383 Tue, 31 Oct 2023 08:26:57 +0000 gembo 371383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Will a surf board fit in a cargo bike?</p> <p>This is actually happening?</p> <p>Unlike Lannraig the 21st Century Resort near Carnwath where one sign has fallen down. Still just houses in middle of nowhere. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031&page=2#post-371379 Mon, 30 Oct 2023 19:55:07 +0000 chdot 371379@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13839/council-leader-cammy-day-visits-the-site-of-lost-shore-surf-resort" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13839/council-leader-cammy-day-visits-the-site-of-lost-shore-surf-resort</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371353 Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:24:06 +0000 acsimpson 371353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The press advertorial's seem designed to push people towards buying vouchers which may or may not be worthless the next time the project is delays?</p> <p>Anyone want to pay £100 for the possibility of a one night stay in their glamping pods sometime over next winter? Me neither. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371340 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 19:51:45 +0000 gembo 371340@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Murun</p> <p>Ha</p> <p>I think David Murray Garden City is also going to open a Butlins. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371339 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 18:59:02 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 371339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo the Astor will need to reopen to cater for the influx </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371338 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 17:41:14 +0000 gembo 371338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ratho for holidays? Linn Water Caravan Park will be feeling the heat now.</p> <p>@Neddie, I have a shovel </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371337 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:16:55 +0000 Morningsider 371337@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Scottish coast is 18,000km long - yet our climate emergency declaring authorities think it appropriate to approve a site where the waves are man-made. </p> <p>The fact it can't be reached by public transport, contrary to pretty much every planning and transport policy is simply the chef's kiss. I particularly like that the developer convinced the council it <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=25085">could be accessed</a> by modes other than car, and they didn't seem to question it.</p> <p>Also, there's the fact it is really a holiday park with the wave thing attached as a way of getting planning permission for a large-scale development in designated countryside. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371335 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:11:16 +0000 ejstubbs 371335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wonder where the "world's first inland...surfing resort" tag came from? If it was Wavegarden then maybe someone should point out to them that they <a href="https://wavegarden.com/facilities/alaia-bay/">list one on their web site</a> that's in <strong>Switzerland!!!</strong>. Even with my limited grasp of geography I reckon that's a fair distance from the sea. (There's another one in <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-37.6862541,144.8653743,3265m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu">Melbourne</a> that's ten miles from the port, and one near <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5444018,-2.6064874,1742m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu">Bristol</a> that's 2½ miles from the nearest stretch of coastline. I would tentatively suggest that at least one of those locations might also struggle to qualify as "not inland".) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371333 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:07:29 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 371333@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sudden flurry of puff pieces from churnalists.</p> <p>Would it be cynical to suggest an imminent further cash requirement from ‘investors’? Still, the greater fools of the SNIB will probably stump up as many readies as required </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-371330 Sat, 28 Oct 2023 09:40:49 +0000 chdot 371330@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lifestyle/staycation/edinburghs-lost-shore-surf-resort-first-look-at-the-worlds-first-cutting-edge-inland-surfing-resort-4388802" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lifestyle/staycation/edinburghs-lost-shore-surf-resort-first-look-at-the-worlds-first-cutting-edge-inland-surfing-resort-4388802</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-363226 Sun, 04 Sep 2022 15:02:06 +0000 algo 363226@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have done this - documented a bit here:</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/Algorhythmica1/status/1532310786915303424?s=20&amp;t=z3an6ekjjm-SvkyYjZrCYQ" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/Algorhythmica1/status/1532310786915303424?s=20&amp;t=z3an6ekjjm-SvkyYjZrCYQ</a></p> <p>if you go over the bridge at Ratho you can get round the back route as I attempted to show there - it's all open - indeed here is a video:</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/Algorhythmica1/status/1532398141147959297?s=20&amp;t=z3an6ekjjm-SvkyYjZrCYQ" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/Algorhythmica1/status/1532398141147959297?s=20&amp;t=z3an6ekjjm-SvkyYjZrCYQ</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-363224 Sun, 04 Sep 2022 14:45:49 +0000 neddie 363224@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I reckon it would be possible to guerilla in a section of single-track to bypass the steps. Sure, it wouldn't be Equality Act compliant, but it would help a lot of users. And likely the council would eventually adopt it, as happened on the Water of Leith path at the bridge near Redhall.</p> <p>So who's up for a spot of guerilla path making?</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2nJwmXi"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52333401351_ca4077375f.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2nJwmXi">single track 1</a></p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2nJxyMR"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52333636283_1e3c0eee96.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2nJxyMR">single track 2</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21031#post-363223 Sun, 04 Sep 2022 14:31:56 +0000 neddie 363223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can confirm that the route highlighted in red by @abeardwalks is possible if a little gravelly with some steepish sections. Wouldn't recommend on tyres narrower than 32mm, anything else should be alright. There isn't a gate. It is fairly typical crap UK active travel infra though, with some battery-powered motion-sensing lights for lighting!</p> <p>On navigation, on approach to the centre, it's important to "keep right" and do the dog-leg into the car park (otherwise you end up at the top of some steps, as we found out)</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2nJxo2H"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52333600083_92a4fa0844.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2nJxo2H">Dog-leg</a></p> <p>I suspect the track is at least partly privately-owned, so getting it surfaced seems unlikely to happen.</p> <p>If you can lift your bike, I'd strongly recommend the direct steps from the canal, as this is much quicker </p>