http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: usual festival whinging en Thu, 21 May 2026 07:18:36 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362351 Sat, 06 Aug 2022 10:02:11 +0000 chdot 362351@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>This is the latest on the bollards being tested on George Square : </p> <p>1. Spacing checked to comply with BS 8300-2018 Pt 1. </p> <p>2. There is an issue with Edinburgh Uni removing their (black) bollards - this will be fixed on Monday. </p> <p>3. We now have a clear route to the footpath (on left). </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1555824994998943744" rel="nofollow">https://mobile.twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1555824994998943744</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362341 Fri, 05 Aug 2022 13:12:17 +0000 MediumDave 362341@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>These days I tend to lock up my bike outside the Sainsburys when heading into that part of town. Watched over by the friendly street drinkers. </p> <p>Doing that is kind of a pain if you work in George Sq though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362340 Fri, 05 Aug 2022 13:10:11 +0000 MediumDave 362340@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presumably they are attached to the ground/each other to stop them from being pushed out of the way. Otherwise what actual use are they?</p> <p>Having said that the thinking underpinning "anti-terror" security theatre is reminiscent of certain scenes in 4 Lions. Wookies at the festival, beware... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362339 Fri, 05 Aug 2022 13:04:51 +0000 chdot 362339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It’s fine, CllrSA is on the case… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362338 Fri, 05 Aug 2022 11:50:44 +0000 Dave 362338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They only weigh 350 to 450kg, so could perhaps be optimised by enterprising citizens. (Or festival revellers?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362335 Fri, 05 Aug 2022 11:00:31 +0000 SRD 362335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I measured them today. most not 1.2 apart (pillar to pillar). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362306 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 14:01:29 +0000 Tulyar 362306@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>AKA Silver Soldiers as demanded by Transec for railway stations on a basic pro forma specification which take no account of other rather better barriers to driving into the station (eg the 2 flights of steps from Union Street up to Glasgow Central main concourse, or in the middle of 2-tier bike racks with a wall behind &amp; 10 ft drop the other side, at Liverpool Street)</p> <p>I have a few on my Flickr portfolio - do contribute examples </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362304 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 12:47:24 +0000 SRD 362304@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>eyeballing it, my sense was that they probably could get through - by rolling over the bases, and adopting a slalom sort of approach. </p> <p>but not 'easily'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362302 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 12:17:56 +0000 Frenchy 362302@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very not obvious that someone in a wheelchair could get through there easily. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362301 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 12:17:01 +0000 Roibeard 362301@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was/is Northern Ireland militarised? It's definitely feeling a bit closer to what I experienced growing up, in terms of the streetscape, if not the armed men on the street - female officers/paramilitaries weren't (openly) armed then!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362298 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 11:42:47 +0000 SRD 362298@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It certainly feels unpleasant and hostile coming in to work. not helped by lorries diving down the lane when the barriers on George square are up. </p> <p>but, having lived in properly militarised states, I'm not sure it's an entirely appropriate comparison. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362297 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 11:24:54 +0000 chdot 362297@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Policing, border control and surveillance have become increasingly militarised in the UK and infiltrated by a “war mentality”, according to a report. </p> <p>It says there is an increasingly blurred line between the police and the military and that key areas including counter-terrorism, anti-protest policing, border control and the policing of gangs have adopted a war mentality. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/04/uk-policing-and-border-control-infiltrated-by-war-mentality-says-report" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/04/uk-policing-and-border-control-infiltrated-by-war-mentality-says-report</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362290 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:57:54 +0000 acsimpson 362290@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I assume it's not the vehicles which are hostile in "Hostile Vehicle Mitigation measures"</p> <p>Without a tape measure it's pretty clear that those gaps aren't 1.2m.</p> <p>It's highly inconsistent that they've installed these for a perceived risk while allowing hostile HGV drivers to take their vehicles all over the pavements elsewhere in the city. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362288 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:02:54 +0000 SRD 362288@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>apparently the festival says that "These bollards are Hostile Vehicle Mitigation measures imposed by the Police and Edinburgh Council. Similar measures are in place elsewhere in the city for the festival period. They are positioned at 1.2 metres apart." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362287 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 09:38:21 +0000 SRD 362287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>current situation: <img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52262308113_06d58343d3_k.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21051#post-362286 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 09:14:12 +0000 SRD 362286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>argh. have been trying not to complain about the horrible blind corners created by festival fencing on the meadows, but now they appear to be installing mega bollards on George Square Lane / MMW? </p> <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52262538559_e3fc75063b_k.jpg"></p> <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52262267161_c895a82fc2_k.jpg"> </p>