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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: HST 4 extra spaces - now seen in real life</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2026 03:25:32 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>Tulyar on "HST 4 extra spaces - now seen in real life"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2022 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/LaidBackBikes/status/1557993457901342720?s=20&#38;amp;t=ScG9EMyTkQaYC_x6UXc_Rw&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://twitter.com/LaidBackBikes/status/1557993457901342720?s=20&#38;amp;t=ScG9EMyTkQaYC_x6UXc_Rw&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not exactly what I'd have specified as bikes can still roll around &#38;amp; fall over - for same price as wheel-bender wings, you could use Orion Gamma or the Brodie Engineering detail from Class 153's&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Still 3 pairs of fixed seats replaced by 6 tip up seats giving 3 metres of clear bodyside space to use flexibly&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This point to be pestered on LNER, TPE and others using Hitachi trains, often with empty seats, and still due a campaign to replace or fix the cracking bolster beams due to yaw damper cyclic overloads* (during which the cycle space changes can be a minor added detail) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*Historically relates to 1960's freight train detailments on ECML, when they started running fast on long stretches of CWR
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