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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Edinburgh Circulation Plan http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Edinburgh Circulation Plan en Thu, 02 Jul 2026 09:40:10 +0000 chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-384322 Sun, 17 May 2026 19:55:57 +0000 chdot 384322@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ For those who don’t recognise gembo’s allusions <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow%27s_miles_better" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow%27s_miles_better</a> Understanding illusions or delusions is beyond the scope of CCE chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-384321 Sun, 17 May 2026 19:51:34 +0000 chdot 384321@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “Shame as CCWEL is great“ Which bits are you referring to? Haymarket to London Road isn’t gembo on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-384319 Sun, 17 May 2026 18:19:19 +0000 gembo 384319@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I must correct myself in terms of Glagow - SNP run a minority led administration in Glasgow though they have the most seats and have done so since 2017. Glasgow Council Created in 1996 and Labour led until 2017.. I am not sure if many of the current projects have had EDINBURGH style 15 year lead ins or if they are more recent. The current sustainable transport initiatives in Glasgow are wide in their scope. THe City Deal funds the Avenues project which is putting in segregated infra in 16? City Centre roads. Meanwhile Edinburgh can only feck up George St. THe Avenues is only one off the Glasgow projects. I do think the stagnation in Edinburgh is because Labour are running the show in a tiny number of seats. Shame as CCWEL is great as is the WoL path, Russell Road to nearly Canal and the towpath itself. But the Avenues project is causing major disruption in the centre of Glasgow to people trying to drive cars and this is a bold decision the minority administration are pushing through with the icing on the cake Being their favoured position of dismantling the M8 which in fact wasnt even put to them as an option by Transport Scotland in the first instance. So Glasgow are Miles Better chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-384317 Sun, 17 May 2026 16:35:32 +0000 chdot 384317@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @ g True but think G was on the case before the SNP ran the show CEC headhunted someone with expertise/experience from G Has had to apologise about TRO failings (before her time) “Edinburgh minority Labour council“ Yes but Normally minority rule means finding people to agree on and vote for things Currently in Ed more like doing what the opposition wants (unless it’s the SNP…) Cynical??? gembo on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-384316 Sun, 17 May 2026 16:12:45 +0000 gembo 384316@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Glasgow has majority SNP council and they are pushing this through. Edinburgh minority Labour council and all taking pot shots at each other and nothing happens Morningsider on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-384315 Sun, 17 May 2026 14:59:42 +0000 Morningsider 384315@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Edinburgh: Council election - develop plans - consult on plans - too late to act - election... Glasgow: Lets <a href="https://www.glasgow.gov.uk/article/15320/Major-new-phase-in-city-centre-transformation-to-begin-next-month">redesign the entire city centre for bikes and buses</a> and deliver it all within five years. chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-384313 Sun, 17 May 2026 14:27:27 +0000 chdot 384313@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Well 3 years on since this thread was started Obviously it hasn’t happened (obviously “yet” is still true) Talking to various people, I’m led to believe that work is still going on (both by CEC staff and also external experts) Also that senior officials want it to happen, but don’t know (neither does anyone else!) what the political situation will be when the work is ‘finished’ Part of the reason for no apparent action is that the last ‘window’ for implementing significant chance closed as it got ‘too close to the election’… (next May) Whether the new Cllrs are more or less interested/supportive/hostile is wholly unknown! Whether Parties explicitly are for or against or don’t even care enough to mention in their election material is also unknown If anyone here is interested, some degree of lobbying in the coming months would perhaps be useful - presumably there will be politicians at PoP Apart from money (a perpetual problem), the main unknown is whether officers will (eventually) recommend a ‘do a lot, quickly’ approach or (more normal for Edinburgh) in stages/tinkering - and if they do, will TEC want to or be allowed (politically) to approve the plan Top of the list is probably still the Cowgate If that is done as an initial/sole project the question would be WHY WASN'T IT DONE YEARS AGO! edinburgh87 on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-377174 Mon, 04 Nov 2024 21:35:13 +0000 edinburgh87 377174@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Quite. I’ve always thought Cowgate was too uneven, narrow and busy for the volume of traffic using it. neddie on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-377173 Mon, 04 Nov 2024 18:00:51 +0000 neddie 377173@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Content warning: gruesome crash. Maybe this poor guy would still be alive if they'd implemented the traffic filter on the Cowgate after the festival this year, as originally mooted by Cllr Scott Arthur: <a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/emergency-incident/edinburgh-cowgate-everything-we-know-about-horror-crash-4850863" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/emergency-incident/edinburgh-cowgate-everything-we-know-about-horror-crash-4850863</a> Arellcat on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153&page=2#post-375860 Fri, 19 Jul 2024 12:01:21 +0000 Arellcat 375860@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <blockquote>"It's not the despair, Laura. I can stand the despair. It's the hope!"</blockquote> This is why I live in Midlothian and not Edinburgh. ;-) Dave on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-375859 Fri, 19 Jul 2024 11:57:41 +0000 Dave 375859@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ On the other thread, we see Scott Arthur deeply regretting that he's been promoted while little has actually been delivered on his watch, and now... even the vapourware is being rolled back Arellcat on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-375858 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:07:27 +0000 Arellcat 375858@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Meanwhile, Paris just got on and did it. I wonder if it's all down to CEC not having enough money, and a case of decision paralysis. This article about Paris is pretty good. Not all rose tinted spectacles according to car park operators and fancy goods shops. <a href="https://slate.com/business/2023/03/paris-car-ban-bikes-cycling-history-france.html" rel="nofollow">https://slate.com/business/2023/03/paris-car-ban-bikes-cycling-history-france.html</a> (also a textbook example of a s**t sandwich) chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-375857 Thu, 18 Jul 2024 10:04:05 +0000 chdot 375857@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “ The brakes are likely to be applied – albeit gently – to council plans to discourage motorists from driving into or through the city centre. The move will have many under-pressure shops and hospitality businesses breathing a sigh of relief, while those concerned with the amount of traffic, and greenhouse gas emissions, on our roads are likely to be disappointed at the delay, writes Sarah McArthur. “ <a href="https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/capital-set-to-apply-brakes-to-its?" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/capital-set-to-apply-brakes-to-its?</a> chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373469 Mon, 19 Feb 2024 01:29:51 +0000 chdot 373469@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “ What are @Edinburgh_CC plans for city centre traffic? What will they mean for everyday walking and wheeling? Join us online at 12.00 on 1 March to hear a short presentation from Daisy Narayanan and join the Q&A! “ <a href="https://x.com/LivingStreetsEd/status/1759178689265180893" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/LivingStreetsEd/status/1759178689265180893</a> Register you place here: <a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZAsc-ugrjwpEtRfWiZMru0iH5nbbZlNLzXF#/registration" rel="nofollow">https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZAsc-ugrjwpEtRfWiZMru0iH5nbbZlNLzXF#/registration</a> chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373223 Sat, 03 Feb 2024 00:09:08 +0000 chdot 373223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “Just catching up on all this as, like most people, I don't really have the time to read hundreds of pages of Council documents.“ A partisan précis, MUCH quicker than reading actual document! <a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1752431850063098017.html" rel="nofollow">https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1752431850063098017.html</a> chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373222 Fri, 02 Feb 2024 23:51:25 +0000 chdot 373222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “ A highlight of the Transport and Environment Committee yesterday was hearing from Peter Vansevenant from Ghent about their Circulation Plan. It's a reminder that Edinburgh has some catching up to do - after years of talk, now it is time to act. Full video - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGtCBNpThQU" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGtCBNpThQU</a> “ <a href="https://x.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1753509614656565479" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1753509614656565479</a> Dave on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373220 Fri, 02 Feb 2024 23:27:47 +0000 Dave 373220@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The analogy I was giving somebody the other day (re: Roseburn in particular) is it's like having someone take away your kitchen for car parking. But don't worry, they promise that your house will soon have twenty bedrooms and five kitchens and anyway your existing kitchen was a bit dark and uncomfortable. But there's zero funding for this enormous house expansion. There's no legally binding commitment being made by anybody. They are going to take away your current kitchen though. Councillors on TEC vote against their already-established policies on a regular basis. As Morningsider points out, they aren't suspending their consultation on ripping out the remaining protection for cyclists on routes that are supposedly going to be defined as key cycle routes with extensive protection... far as I'm concerned it's not worth the paper it's written on. chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373217 Fri, 02 Feb 2024 23:14:32 +0000 chdot 373217@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “Experience tells me that this enthusiasm tends to evaporate as soon as plans threaten to turn into action. I expect to see the phrase "I support active travel, but..." “ Oh so cynical BUT… “and listen politely to European colleagues who have actually done things” - listen with awe and ‘yes but’ As Paul Lawrence said later ‘If only we had the power to do that’ “I know it seems churlish to moan” Not at all “when so many people have worked hard to produce these plans. However, it isn't our job to cheerlead yet another policy document” EXACTLY! Morningsider on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373214 Fri, 02 Feb 2024 21:28:29 +0000 Morningsider 373214@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Just catching up on all this as, like most people, I don't really have the time to read hundreds of pages of Council documents. Anyway, I'll start with a parochial gripe. The plan states: <blockquote>A702 - Primary cycle route relocated to local streets between the Meadows and Greenbank</blockquote> The Council just consulted on removing most of the limited protection for cyclists on those streets! As far as I can tell, the only on-street action planned for 2024 (11 months remaining) is "an experimental closure of the Cowgate to some or all through traffic in 2024". Is this right? These are just two minor issues - I really can't face ploughing through the whole thing. I'm sure there are many other examples that could be picked up. Then there are the macro issues, such as there being no budget allocated for delivery. However, I think the big one is political will. Edinburgh politicians are happy to sign off on the big plans, declare 'emergencies' and listen politely to European colleagues who have actually done things. Experience tells me that this enthusiasm tends to evaporate as soon as plans threaten to turn into action. I expect to see the phrase "I support active travel, but..." to feature in quite a lot of future political leaflets and chipwrapper articles. I know it seems churlish to moan when so many people have worked hard to produce these plans. However, it isn't our job to cheerlead yet another policy document. We have been here many times over the last couple of decades. What would it say about us if we simply roll over in the face of claims that amount to "Honestly, this time I really mean it!" I'll happily thank everyone once I see a city centre that has been transformed. chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373209 Fri, 02 Feb 2024 12:28:31 +0000 chdot 373209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “ What are Edinburgh's bold new plans for congestion? “ <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-68170323" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-68170323</a> Frenchy on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373198 Thu, 01 Feb 2024 20:27:08 +0000 Frenchy 373198@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ ANPR is allowed by Scot Gov to enforce bus-gates (see Manse Rd) If I followed the discussion right, Ghent uses ANPR to allow exempt cars through as well. Presumably the Belgian equivalent of blue badges, but I don't think the speaker specified today. neddie on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373195 Thu, 01 Feb 2024 18:05:40 +0000 neddie 373195@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ ANPR is allowed by Scot Gov to enforce bus-gates (see Manse Rd) chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373184 Thu, 01 Feb 2024 14:37:31 +0000 chdot 373184@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ “ #Edinwebcast #MobilityPlan+#FutureStreets Speaker #PeterVansevenant from #Ghent about their #CirculationPlan --> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay62x6Jd6_E" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay62x6Jd6_E</a> Also #safety policy --> <a href="https://archive.etsc.eu/documents/P.Vansevenant%20ETSL.ppt.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://archive.etsc.eu/documents/P.Vansevenant%20ETSL.ppt.pdf</a> Bikes now ~30% of all trips Fewer cars =>safer for bikes & pedestrians Use #ANPR to enforce; not allowed by @scotgov “ <a href="https://x.com/spokeslothian/status/1753032416871018724?" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/spokeslothian/status/1753032416871018724?</a> (With screenshots) chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373140 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 00:57:31 +0000 chdot 373140@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Lots to consider - Twitter thread by Angus Calder (Architect / Urbanist / Active Travel / Senior Mobility Planner @SustransScot / Co-founder @SKELFBikePark / All views my own) <a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1752431850063098017.html" rel="nofollow">https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1752431850063098017.html</a> toomanybikes on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373127 Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:34:13 +0000 toomanybikes 373127@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @neddie yeah was thinking this earlier. "" Lothian Road and Holyrood park must take up slack from bridges"", seems to be their mantra. Murky private discussions with Historic Scotland don't inspire confidence we'll get a 24/7 park any time soon. Surely double red line bus lanes the length of Lothian Road and onwards would be a good thing anyway. neddie on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373117 Mon, 29 Jan 2024 17:24:15 +0000 neddie 373117@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Just read the latest incarnation of the circulation plan. Wow, it seems the road planners* are really still wedded to disproven 1980s traffic models - the old “predict and provide”, and “traffic displacement”, instead of just building the city you want. You can imagine the media and the antis now taking all the worst-case traffic displacement figures out of context, as headlines. FFS, way to lose the support of the people! *in the loosest possible sense chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373074 Sat, 27 Jan 2024 01:23:21 +0000 chdot 373074@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ SOME of the mentions of traffic reductions My bold “ For the purposes of this assessment, the city centre has been defined as the current Low Emissions Zone (LEZ) boundary. The development of options within this boundary has examined ways in which the city centre’s streets can be transformed to meet the policy objectives and benefits described above, and to understand the operational issues of doing so. The overall aim is to enhance the place value of the city centre and strengthen the size, quality and ease-of- understanding of the Pedestrian Priority Zone (PPZ) that was defined by ECCT, while supporting a reduction in private vehicle trips across the city centre. In doing so, the options examine existing and planned street improvement projects, but identify ways in which these projects can be cast within holistic and intuitive plans for all users of the city centre’s streets, rather than at a project-specific level. … Development of the business case for future tram is currently in progress. However, work undertaken to date indicates a preference for a route to the south via the Bridges corridor. Construction of tram would be a major step change in public transport provision and would provide a fast and efficient alternative to the car. Tram operation would require a significant reduction in traffic volumes on the Bridges corridor. At this stage, a bus gate/junction layout changes would need to be considered for North Bridge that would restrict through Our Future Streets (Circulation Plan) – Technical Summary Report traffic. Local access would be maintained throughout the day with a connection maintained at Chambers Street. .,. All options have been tested using the council’s Strategic and Microsimulation models to understand wider and local impacts. Analysis has considered both current traffic levels and a 30% reduction in demand, reflecting Edinburgh’s car kilometre reduction targets. Additional sensitivity testing has been undertaken to assess the implications of potential Holyrood Park restrictions. … Traffic evaporation is potentially in the order of 10% of existing trips (see inset below). Therefore, other policy interventions would be required to deliver a 30% reduction as per the car kilometre target set by the Council, potentially including further parking restrictions, a workplace parking levy and/or road user charging. Given this, careful consideration should be given to the implementation of the preferred option to minimise the impact on public transport. Early messaging and guidance to drivers and other users can help offset the immediate impact of major network changes. Frequently, it is the first weeks of a scheme that have the greatest negative impact on congestion - and there is the potential for the transport model to significantly underestimate this. In the medium term, impacts settle to an as modelled condition (or better) as traffic evaporation and behaviour change takes place. … Based on 2016 observed data and subsequent 2019 validation, which helped develop Edinburgh’s suite of traffic models, there are approximately 17,000 vehicle trips (car, LGV and HGV) per hour in the city centre during the peaks, with approximately 30% of these trips not having an origin or destination within the city centre study area. Although this figure aligns with Edinburgh’s traffic reduction target, discouraging these trips from the city centre is anticipated to increase kilometres travelled as vehicles navigate around the city centre. A citywide 30% reduction in general traffic would remove approximately 13% of strategic trips from Edinburgh City Centre. At a high-level and including a margin of error and optimism bias, this suggests a maximum figure possible in the city centre for ‘traffic evaporation’ of around 10%. The remaining traffic reduction required to meet Edinburgh’s 30% target for the city centre will have to be delivered through mode shift to public transport and walking, wheeling and cycling. Assuming a typical car occupancy rate of 1.3 people per vehicle, 20% of 17,000 trips would equate to around 1,800 people per hour. To put this volume of people into context, this would fill 23 double decker buses per hour. This highlights that future options for Edinburgh’s city centre must discourage unnecessary trips but also provide sufficient high quality public transport and walking, wheeling and cycling provision if the 30% vehicle kilometre target is to be met. … For the city to achieve these targets as a whole, the city centre will play a significant part in managing citywide demand. For the city to achieve these targets in just six years’ time, the city centre will require a significant reduction in general traffic in the short term. Therefore, there is a strong case to go further than the current ECCT proposals to expedite the changes needed to the city centre transport network and meet the Council’s policy objectives. “ Yodhrin on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373073 Sat, 27 Jan 2024 00:43:57 +0000 Yodhrin 373073@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Here's the headlines for cycle de-provision: <blockquote>With all the above in mind, the SAF makes a number of adjustments to the initial desired cycle network. The revised cycle network map is set out in Appendix A and includes the following proposed relocations and deletions of the primary cycle network: -A90 Queensferry Road route – Blackhall westwards - relocated to NCN1, using off road paths and quiet streets to the north -Inverleith Row route relocated to the Canonmills to Trinity off-road path -Deletions from Bonnington Road and Easter Road -Deletion from Lasswade Road -Deletion from Craigmillar Park and the Bridges, with alternative parallel routes -A70 Lanark Road / Slateford Road – relocation of parallel streets connecting to Gorgie Road -A702 - Primary cycle route relocated to local streets between the Meadows and Greenbank -Deletion from Gilmour Place, parallel by Dundee Street -Deletion from Drum Brae -Deletion of a number of shorter lengths of street where precedence has been given to bus priority or where width precludes an effective safe solution, including Crewe Road North, Newhaven Road, Pilrig Street, Captains Road, Greenbank Road, Gillespie Road</blockquote> In practice, many of these are decisions to preserve parking and/or general traffic plus bus priority at the expense of roadspace reallocation to cycling. Inverleith Row for example is at least 9m and as much as 11m wide *not including pavements* along its entire length and so could easily accommodate a 3-3.5m bidirectional cycle lane plus two way general traffic lanes of 3m each, meeting the definition of full provision according to their own guidelines, but that would mean forcing the poor SUV owners to park on side streets. Or you could put in some bus gates, reducing traffic volumes to levels acceptable for cycling, but that would mean the poor SUV owners couldn't plow down the street at 30+ as they often do presently. So cyclists get shunted back on to the Goldenacre path. It'd be funny if it wasn't so bloody depressing. Yodhrin on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-373070 Fri, 26 Jan 2024 23:39:29 +0000 Yodhrin 373070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Renamed to "Our Future Streets", docs for next committee are up: Pt1 - <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s66421/Item%207.2%20Our%20Future%20Streets%20-%20a%20circulation%20plan%20for%20Edinburgh_Part1.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s66421/Item%207.2%20Our%20Future%20Streets%20-%20a%20circulation%20plan%20for%20Edinburgh_Part1.pdf</a> Pt2 - <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s66422/Item%207.2%20Our%20Future%20Streets%20-%20a%20circulation%20plan%20for%20Edinburgh_Part2.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s66422/Item%207.2%20Our%20Future%20Streets%20-%20a%20circulation%20plan%20for%20Edinburgh_Part2.pdf</a> About halfway through part one so far and already it's looking dire; large parts of the proposed cycling network have been downgraded to "secondary" status in their framework because providing segregated infrastructure would be incompatible with "place" apparently. EDIT: Oh joy, second little nugget of fun - the council's plans now include them basically advocating to keep Holyrood Park open to traffic and even expanding access to include goods vehicles. Apparently that and a potentially significant downgrade of provision on Lothian Road are the price that has to be paid for removing through traffic from the Bridges and Cowgate. The traffic must flow. EDIT2: And there goes the commitment to upgrade AT provision as part of routine carriageway renewals. Along with, functionally, the transport hierarchy since bus priority is pretty obviously being placed above cycling provision. Okay so if I'm reading this right, essentially what the plan amounts to in practice is the cementing of an "inner ring road" going York Place > Queen Street > Charlotte Square > Lothian Road > Melville Drive > Dalkeith Road > Holyrood Park Road > Queen's Drive > Meadowbank > London Road > Picardy. And in exchange, we get two disconnected streets in the city centre core given over to peds/PT. I really hope the appendices prove me wrong. chdot on "Edinburgh Circulation Plan" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21153#post-366222 Wed, 01 Feb 2023 10:24:45 +0000 chdot 366222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ A previous plan that CCE seems to have missed - Open Space strategy <a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/park-management-rules/open-space-strategy/1" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/park-management-rules/open-space-strategy/1</a> Wonder how that one is going?