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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)</title>
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<title>gembo on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 15:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;ejstubbs - I wish not to expand my bile
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<title>chdot on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216&amp;page=2#post-377757</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ho ho&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That’s actually an iPhone OCR artefact, &#60;em&#62;not&#60;/em&#62; in the original PDF!
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<title>ejstubbs on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 09:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Expand the provision of &#60;strong&#62;bile-sharing&#60;/strong&#62; initiatives across the region&#34;  does that mean initiatives designed to enrage drivists? ;)
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<title>chdot on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216&amp;page=2#post-377754</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;National, regional and local policies are supportive of active and sustainable travel behaviour change.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Transport Scotland's National Transport Strategy 24 outlines a vision that &#34;we will have a sustainable,inclusive, safe and accessible transport system, helping deliver a healthier, fairer and more prosperous Scotland for communities, businesses and visitors&#34;. The vision is underpinned by four priorities:&#60;br /&#62;
Reducing inequalities&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Taking climate action&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Helping deliver inclusive economic growth&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Improving our health and wellbeing&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Transport Scotland's Active Travel Framework5 lists five outcomes for improving the uptake of walking,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;wheeling and cycling for travel:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Increase the number of people choosing walking, cycling and wheeling in Scotland&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;High-quality walking, cycling and wheeling infrastructure is available to all&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Walking, cycling and wheeling is safer for all&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Walking, cycling and wheeling is available to all&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Delivery of walking, cycling and wheeling is promoted and supported by a range of partners&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;SEStran's Regional Transport Strategy° includes actions to 'deliver safe active travel' (section 7.3, page 62):&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Promotional and communication campaigns to highlight the benefits of active travel across the region&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;and encourage people to adopt it where possible&#34; and&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Expand the provision of bile-sharing initiatives across the region&#34;.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://sestran.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/SEStran-People-and-Place-Delivery-Plan.pdf&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://sestran.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/SEStran-People-and-Place-Delivery-Plan.pdf&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Arellcat on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;If I were in charge of Transport Scotland and had the wherewithal to spend a couple of billion Pounds...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;...we could rebuild the railway from Berwick to Galashiels via Kelso, and for an encore complete the Borders railway to Carlisle for full diversionary capability.&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Interesting, I wasn't aware of this:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/SpokesLothian/status/1638886928614408194?s=20&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://twitter.com/SpokesLothian/status/1638886928614408194?s=20&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Spokes CycleCampaign&#60;br /&#62;
@SpokesLothian&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;New campaign to reinstate #Rail &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;#BerwickUponTweed to #StBoswells, linking to&#60;br /&#62;
@BordersRailway &#38;amp; East Coast main line&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;HERE--&#38;gt;https://tweedvalleyrailway.co.uk&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(probably really belongs in whichever armchair railway planner thread we have)
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<title>chdot on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216&amp;page=2#post-365954</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2023 10:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Too sensible.
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<title>Tulyar on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2023 06:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I've recorded at least 2 cases where cycle use has increased by 200-1000% in around 2 months, with no special incentives or infrastructure. In fact the sheer number of cycle users crossing the Thames as a result of this 'upset' forced TfL to deliver the cycle lanes on the bridges used&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Did the same when I worked with Glasgow on cycle parking in 1995, and selected sites were monitored returning a 30+% increase on cycles parked year on year - the best site h ad 1 bike locked to a bollard in 1995, and now has 48 covered spaces, often full. With the programme of installing 200-400 stands/year, these usually fill up steadily&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We have some huge opportunities looming&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;With LEZ having options to ride from a coach or train stop (and you can carry bikes on both)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Then some major disruption on M8, as it continues to disintegrate and demand repair&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The options to have smaller bike hire nodes should be examined, and perhaps SESTRAN might follow Hitrans and get some Brompton Hire units strategically located, so that drivers of LEZ excluded vehiclkes might use P&#38;amp;R sites and cycle, or some E/Mid Lothian Bewegen EAPC might 'leak' to Petty France or other locations, as these EAPC can have geo-fenced 'instant' hire locations set up with minimal ground works
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<title>chdot on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2023 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Not (just) about cycling, but…&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Exercise matters. Individuals living in the most deprived areas in Scotland were 1.7 times less likely to have met the daily activity guidelines compared with those living in the least deprived areas. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://ourscottishfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/CLOSING-THE-GAP.pdf&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://ourscottishfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/CLOSING-THE-GAP.pdf&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Baldcyclist on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216&amp;page=2#post-365876</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I asked ChatGPT cos it's all the rage just now:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Mark Findlay&#60;br /&#62;
How can we encourage more people to cycle instead of driving?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There are several ways to encourage more people to cycle instead of driving, including:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Building more bike lanes: By creating dedicated bike lanes, cities can make cycling a safer and more convenient option for people.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Creating bike-sharing programs: Bike-sharing programs can make cycling more accessible for people who don't own a bike by providing them with an affordable rental option.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Providing bike parking: By providing more bike parking options, cities can make it easier for people to leave their bikes in safe, secure locations.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Education: Encouraging people to cycle by educating them on the benefits of cycling such as reducing pollution, improving health and reducing traffic congestion.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Offering incentives: Governments and employers can offer incentives to encourage people to cycle, such as a tax breaks for bike commuters or providing showers and changing rooms for bike commuters.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Making cycling safer: By improving infrastructure and enforcing traffic laws to protect cyclist, it will make people feel more comfortable to cycle.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Making cycling more appealing: By holding events like bike festivals, races and group rides, it will make cycling more appealing and fun for people.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Encourage cycling as a part of transportation planning: By including cycling in transportation planning and integrating cycling infrastructure with public transport, it will make cycling more accessible and convenient for people.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Remember that, to be effective, these efforts should be part of a comprehensive strategy that addresses the specific needs and concerns of the community. Encouraging cycling will require a combination of infrastructure, education, and incentives, along with a culture that values and prioritizes cycling.
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<title>jss on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Wee Angus a pedlar of papers but not of cranks, methinks
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<title>gembo on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216&amp;page=2#post-365810</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have had Joanna Cherry on an electric bike and Gordon McDonald on the EBC smoothie bike so it is feasible. But Angus is another fish altogether.
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<title>Rosie on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;He's my constituency MSP so I have emailed him.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If there are some community cycling events, isn't it de rigueur for politicians to turn up on a bicycle?  He might be learning to ride one as we speak.
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<title>gembo on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216#post-365805</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The civil servant who wrote thar for angus Robertson must hav3 a strong stomach. I would think Angus has no interest in this sort of thing and merely signed the bottom of the page without reading it,
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<title>jss on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2023 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Anyone ever seen Angus Robertson on a bicycle ?
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<title>Rosie on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2023 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;SPOKES Facebook post&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid022bh7gDatsTs986bwXa3u9D4H3qwNPwCNgdwe5b9wY2ZCPyLWk5U9xYmMVt6Hkobzl&#38;amp;id=100064719934884&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid022bh7gDatsTs986bwXa3u9D4H3qwNPwCNgdwe5b9wY2ZCPyLWk5U9xYmMVt6Hkobzl&#38;amp;id=100064719934884&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;CYCLING LEGACY – ANGUS ROBERTSON&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Angus Robertson, the Culture Secretary and the Constituency MSP for Edinburgh Central, intends that the UCI Cycling World Championship, which is to be hosted in Glasgow in the summer, will leave a lasting cycling legacy.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/.../msp-vows-cycling-event..&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/.../msp-vows-cycling-event..&#60;/a&#62;.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Through our £1 million Community Cycling Fund, we are already supporting sustainable cycling projects and local events to ensure as many communities across Scotland get involved.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;We want to inspire a new generation to cycle, helping more people to benefit from the mental and physical health benefits, as well as promoting active travel and helping reduce travel emissions.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No-one wants to be a grinch about holding an international sports event in Scotland, with local cycling events as part of the celebrations. However, if, for instance, they put on a BMX competition/try-out for children, whether it will result in more children cycling to school daily is another story. This will not happen without the necessary measures to keep them safe from motor traffic. If you want inspiration for an activity to continue beyond a big event, you need the infrastructure to sustain the activity. A parallel case would be to inspire children to read more through a festival of books featuring famous children’s authors, then not opening libraries.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What could the Scottish government do if it is serious about turning inspiration generated from a major sport event into more people cycling as an ordinary means of getting about in the future?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Spokes has detailed the Scottish government’s present active travel trajectory here (bottom of the article).&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.spokes.org.uk/.../edinburgh-cycling-what-will.../&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.spokes.org.uk/.../edinburgh-cycling-what-will.../&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Effective Budgeting&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They could budget more effectively. The SNP/Green joint Share Policy Programme promised that by 2024-25 at least £320m or 10% of the total transport budget will be allocated to active travel.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For 23/24 the Active Travel budget was 5.3% of the total transport budget. If you are going to increase funding for active travel, you need to allocate evenly over the time period, which gives Councils the ability to plan the projects, and hire and upskill the staff. A big lump of cash at the end may leave the Council without the manpower and projects to use it wisely.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Scottish Government has recognised this with its Active Travel Transformation Project, which is to outline how to reorganise processes for the effective use of cash. It is supposed to be completed with a report to the Minister for Active Travel in December 2022. As always, it is a question how much the good-sounding policies will be implemented.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Easing Council Restrictions&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Councils deliver the work on the ground. Many existing government policies restrict their ability to act rapidly and effectively to promote cycling and wider active and sustainable travel. In their Transformation initiative the councils have been asked to identify such restrictions.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There are some ideas:- allowing bus ANPR cameras to issue automatic fines for parking in bus lanes; allowing councils to increase fines for parking infringements; further changes to the rules on Traffic Orders, to make project implementations easier (like in England); speeding up implementation of the act to ban pavement parking, (which has been delayed until 2024 when the Act was passed in 2019!) drop-kerb parking and double parking.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The above procedures are unglamorous measures compared to an Olympics-style sporting championship along with attendant local community events, which politicians can turn up to and support. However, if Angus Robertson is serious that these have the goal of getting more people cycling in Scotland, there has to be more than the vision of the trophy – there is the whole painstaking training programme that leads up to it.
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<title>pringlis on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216#post-365718</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Battery charging is more of a hassle for people who can't store their bike indoors or near a socket (e.g. tenement flats). It'd be great if the newly installed on-street bike hangers could come with charging facilities. I don't think it's possible at the moment due to size of panels needed but at some point efficiency would be such that you could even have solar panels on the roof trickle charging bikes. Or on-street chargers, like the council is building for electric cars.
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<title>gembo on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216#post-365706</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;In general a battery will take approx 1000 recharges if kept in not too cold and I suppose not too hot conditions. Sometimes can be repaired but after about 1000 recharges they are kaput.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If it is twice a week then about 9-10 years. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Though we trashed the earlier model batteries a lot quicker than that. In the work scheme.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The internal wiring also went so you needed your own lights&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We also tended to use full power at all times…&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The shop went bust at tollcross, and even the battery shop on ferry road closed.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However,I still love using them. And am still on the case despite being described as Just an interested user ( as in no one in the company taking ownership so i interfere). Three better ones were found during Covid and were apparently set for return to the main office but are still in limbo.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am asking about this with frequency as I think they are useful for my peripatetic work
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<title>LaidBack on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2023 01:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@ejstubbs @jss &#60;em&#62;need to remove battery for recharging after each ride&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;All models we sell can be charged in situ but for outdoor storage overnight best to bring inside. Urban Arrow users seem to charge every two or three days. Heavier bike etc.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@ejstubbs&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;em&#62;also rather wonder how much a collection of used, unmarked LIon cells would be worth to a thief?&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Two UA owners have had Bosch powerpacks stolen in last year. Thiefs destroy the lock but battery is unscathed.&#60;br /&#62;
Bosch pack fits many other bikes and details at £600 so is worth going for. As cycling isn't too popular here there's less chance. In Amsterdam they fit extra 'ridesafe' locks to go over the standard lock! &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Agree though that using e-bike is not difficult once you get routine sorted. Running lights off battery is pretty standard on our cargo models. I prefer the control to be wired onto bars so frame lock key is all you need to take for short stop.&#60;br /&#62;
Some models now have tiny removable 'Kiox' display that is just more to carry or waylay.&#60;br /&#62;
Fitting a frame lock would make bike use easier. Rarely offered by non-European brands.
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<title>ejstubbs on "How to get more people cycling in 2023(?)"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21216#post-365699</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2023 15:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ejstubbs</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;@jss:&#60;/strong&#62; &#60;em&#62;need to remove battery for recharging after each ride&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't need to remove the battery from my bike to recharge it - there's a port with a rubber cap in the frame which covers a socket that you can plug the charger in to with the battery still on the bike.  I needed to get a longer mains lead than the one supplied as standard to reach from the nearest 240V socket to where I store my bike, but that was a relatively minor one-off cost.  I doubt my e-bike is unique in this respect, though I'm in no position to claim that they are all like that.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I also don't need to recharge the battery after each ride.  If I've only used it for shortish local journeys (one of the key targets for getting other people out their cars, surely?) then it can go days without needing a recharge.  If I go for a longer ride and come back with it ~half empty I still usually don't put it on charge straight away: the usual recommendation being to store the battery at around 60-70% charged, rather than topping it up every time you get home.  That remaining partial charge is plenty for nipping to the shops a few times.  Obviously running the battery down requires a bit of forethought and planning to accommodate longer rides, but with a fast charger (which I personally haven't found any need for yet) it doesn't take long to top it up if you get a sudden desire to head out into the wild blue yonder.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;prone to having your £300 battery prised off when parked&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is this particularly prevalent?  I can imagine that it could happen, but I've not [yet] heard of it becoming a scourge of e-bikers.  If I'm just popping in to a shop for a few minutes (short local journeys again) then I don't worry much about leaving the battery on the bike.  If I'm planning to leave it parked for some time e.g. at work if commuting then I can take the battery with me (and I can then e.g. charge it in the office should it need it).  I also rather wonder how much a collection of used, unmarked LIon cells would be worth to a thief?  I doubt the battery package would emerge unscathed from being prised off/out of the frame (though I'll allow that the ones that mount to a rear carrier rack would likely be more vulnerable to minimal-damage theft).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;When I park up my bike it takes me a wee while to remove all the accessories which could be quickly and easily stolen (lights, Garmin, camera etc) and stash them in my rucksack, and then fit them back on the bike when I'm ready to start riding again.  Although a battery is a heavy thing to lug around if you do choose to take it off, the additional time required to detach and attach it is IME not a major factor in the overall parking up/getting ready to ride process.  (I guess that's where the Van Moof/hire bike approach, where a lot of the accessory type stuff is integrated into the bike, has some appeal.)
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Working From Home.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And I like Yet Another Three Letter Acronym (which I had not seen before).
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It's just YATLA. ;-)
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<description>&#60;p&#62;WTF is WFH?
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<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2023 10:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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&#60;p&#62;I really miss my Bathgate-Edinburgh cycle commute, even in the crappy weather. It gave me purpose glong A to B and never thought twice about it, even in winter. I just can't get motivated to replace that with 'leisure miles' now that I mainly WFH &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://mobile.twitter.com/thebroonster/status/1611758958812827648&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://mobile.twitter.com/thebroonster/status/1611758958812827648&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2023 10:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Jss - it’s a small place but it’s doing good work. If you stop at the Cloudhouse cafe, there’s now a permanent bike wrenching unit sticking out of the pavement across the road, with various common tools available for free use (attached with cables to discourage thieves).
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2023 18:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;You would get my vote  to run it!&#60;br /&#62;
Especially if it were to use steam locomotives perhaps fuelled by sustainable timber from the Border’s forests
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2023 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;If I were in charge of Transport Scotland and had the wherewithal to spend a couple of billion Pounds, I would rebuild the railway from Galashiels to Peebles, run it north as far as Eddleston and then west via Lamancha to West Linton, using some of the existing Dolphinton branch wayleave.  From there, we drive a tunnel under the Pentlands to meet the WCML at a new Curriehill West Junction.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Another two or three billion and we could rebuild the railway from Berwick to Galashiels via Kelso, and for an encore complete the Borders railway to Carlisle for full diversionary capability.
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2023 16:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Would be great if Stow becsme another cycling hub like Innerleithen creating and supporting local businesses&#60;br /&#62;
Perhaps also the borders railway would wake up to the potential afforded by edinburgh cyclists wanting to get to the wonderful cycling in the borders and offer more than just a couple of bike spaces
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2023 12:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The old coach road is a great road now The Cundy has been installed at the Farm.
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2023 12:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@nobrakes - great initiative. Stow has ideal road close to station parallel to A7 up towards Heriot. Potential to do a loop over to Lauder too on full battery.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@jss - :-) knew you would say something like that! You are right though that in NL bike  and use is best done on an upright. That said most recumbent bikes we sold from Nazca had kickstand, rack, guards etc. Market there is/was inter-city - some recumbents being displaced by velomobiles.&#60;br /&#62;
Hart's Gazelle range is one key way of making day to day cycling clean and convenient. Now e-Gazelles are a thing even more people should enjoy them but lack of infra limits growth. Same goes for cargobikes such as UA.&#60;br /&#62;
We get the 'brief' of why people want a bike and where they might go. Almost all buyers have a decent path close by. Few live in city centre.&#60;br /&#62;
Storage there is issue though big cargo bike and cover is pretty safe. Yes you have to take battery off but you'll do that to charge anyway. Different routine versus hassle of getting bus or parking your car.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Number one measure I would say is to get bike hire scheme back in action. A city without that really doesn't produce enough 'non-cyclists' on bikes versus hard core 'sports-commuters' to encourage les autres.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Paths and routes with decent width is next. Discouraging cross town car journeys would free up centre for more people space and much of the complex pavement and kerb engineering wouldn't be needed. As North Bridge is restricted now is the time to do that. If the city actually applied the hierarchy of human beings first then the rest would follow. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If more media was like Phylis and Edinburgh Reporter and positive towards cycling it would help. Car retailers dictate too much I fear making cycling very much a niche with 'risks and discomfort' of being outside a vehicle a common theme.
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<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2023 20:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Stow recently opened a community bike hub where you can rent e-bikes. It’s amazing the number of people who haven’t been on a bike in years now venturing up the old coach road for a couple of hours’ fun.
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