http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: 20 mph expansion - consultation (and aftermaths) en Wed, 13 May 2026 19:03:36 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-384197 Mon, 11 May 2026 18:50:09 +0000 chdot 384197@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26097276.glasgow-begin-phased-rollout-20mph-speed-limits/" rel="nofollow">https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26097276.glasgow-begin-phased-rollout-20mph-speed-limits/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-384098 Thu, 07 May 2026 11:17:07 +0000 chdot 384098@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Cut UK speed limits to reduce Iran war impact on consumers, thinktank urges</p> <p>Cap of 20mph in towns and cities and 60mph on motorways would cut fuel demand and combat rising prices, IPPR says</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/may/07/lower-speed-limits-uk-oil-prices-ippr-thinktank" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/may/07/lower-speed-limits-uk-oil-prices-ippr-thinktank</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-382773 Tue, 13 Jan 2026 17:52:52 +0000 bakky 382773@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>MP Professor Doctor posted about it on Bluesky with great disbelief at the speeds certain goods vehicles do near schools, as though he wasn't in prime position to do something about that for multiple consecutive years. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-382772 Tue, 13 Jan 2026 16:41:05 +0000 Frenchy 382772@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's an incredibly interesting tool, thank you for posting! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-382765 Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:48:12 +0000 neddie 382765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A lot of speeding on the park roads, below 12% adherence rate and average speed of 26mph.</p> <p>And commercial vehicles aren't even allowed there!</p> <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55039503065_98f51e74fc.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-382764 Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:33:37 +0000 neddie 382764@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>On this site, we present speeding behaviour data collected from goods vehicles (LGVs and HGVs) in UK cities, across a month in October 2023</blockquote></p> <p>Interactive map that includes Edinburgh</p> <p><a href="https://speeding.hasp.ac.uk/" rel="nofollow">https://speeding.hasp.ac.uk/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-382024 Sat, 15 Nov 2025 15:03:50 +0000 chdot 382024@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/20mph-limits-slowing-down-shouldnt-be-this-difficult-5403346" rel="nofollow">https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/20mph-limits-slowing-down-shouldnt-be-this-difficult-5403346</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-381636 Mon, 20 Oct 2025 08:43:26 +0000 chdot 381636@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“<br /> Reducing speed limits to 20mph protects cyclists and doesn’t delay traffic, new research finds </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://road.cc/content/news/20mph-limits-protect-cyclists-and-dont-delay-traffic-316421" rel="nofollow">https://road.cc/content/news/20mph-limits-protect-cyclists-and-dont-delay-traffic-316421</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-381382 Thu, 02 Oct 2025 11:16:08 +0000 chdot 381382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/west-lothian-roads-speed-bumps-a-last-resort-as-20mph-zones-rolled-out-5341288" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/west-lothian-roads-speed-bumps-a-last-resort-as-20mph-zones-rolled-out-5341288</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-381212 Wed, 17 Sep 2025 13:33:23 +0000 chdot 381212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“<br /> Road injuries drop by 900 since switch to 20mph </p> <p>“</p> <p>(Wales)</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm286pyjml7o.amp" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm286pyjml7o.amp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-380646 Tue, 19 Aug 2025 16:20:36 +0000 neddie 380646@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some interesting background on ISA:</p> <p><a href="https://etsc.eu/opinion-will-intelligent-speed-assistance-isa-live-up-to-its-promise/" rel="nofollow">https://etsc.eu/opinion-will-intelligent-speed-assistance-isa-live-up-to-its-promise/</a></p> <p><blockquote>To be clear, we risk, in a worst-case scenario, ending up with a system that has limited safety benefits and annoys drivers.</p> <p>But it doesn’t need to be this way. Carmakers are perfectly entitled to go above and beyond the minimum standards – as they do today on many aspects of vehicle safety in the EU. They can include digital maps of speed limits with regular updates, they can install systems that reduce engine torque rather than beeping incessantly and they can use sign-recognition technology that can interpret conditional speed limits. They have a choice. And we sincerely hope they do the right thing.</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-380645 Tue, 19 Aug 2025 16:10:33 +0000 neddie 380645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Speed humps are no longer effective with SUVs having such enormous tyres to soften bumps and also hugely over-powered to allow rapid speed increases between the humps.</p> <p>I recently broke my long run of not having driven (for 4 years) and took out a hire car.</p> <p>It had Intelligent Speed Assist (ISA, now mandated by the EU in all cars since July 2024), but the warnings it gives for speeding are absolutely pathetic - just a short and muted bleep-bleep noise that stops after a while, even if you continue over the limit.</p> <p>(However, I told my sister-in-law, who likes a good speed, that the hire car "could not speed" when I had to follow her! She was pretty annoyed about having to drive "slowly" and even criticised my driving, LOL) </p> <p>It's really shocking that the EU watered down ISA at the behest of the motor industry. It could have been so much more, with haptic feedback (strong push-back on the throttle, or vibration through the steering) or better still a default of not allowing speeding at all through the engine management (with limited-number-of-times-use and limited-duration override button for emergencies)</p> <p>Bl**dy car industry, literally!</p> <p>It only takes one car in front sticking to the limit to slow down all the other cars behind, so it wouldn't matter so much about older cars if at least the new ones were forced to stick to the limits </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-380642 Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:20:30 +0000 pringlis 380642@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My street, notionally a 20mph, was surveyed recently and they found the 85 percentile speed was 29.6mph and the average speed exceeded the 24mph tolerance <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s47961/8.1%20-%20Evaluation%20of%20the%2020mph%20Speed%20Limit%20Roll%20Out.pdf">noted in council papers.</a> </p> <p>I've been chasing the council to found out what actions they'd take to address this - "further speed reduction measures" apparently, but no real detail as to what or when. I anticipate at best some temporary signs that tell people their speed which wouldn't be ideal but even a small shift in driver behaviour can speed down everyone else. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-380639 Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:30:18 +0000 chdot 380639@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/west-lothian-20mph-roads-5277471" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/west-lothian-20mph-roads-5277471</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-379782 Mon, 26 May 2025 20:20:44 +0000 chdot 379782@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>From Monday June 9, we’ll begin implementing a series of speed reduction measures, from 40mph to 30mph, in locations across the city. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/14216/40mph-to-30mph-speed-limit-reduction-implementation-to-begin-across-the-city" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/14216/40mph-to-30mph-speed-limit-reduction-implementation-to-begin-across-the-city</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-379725 Wed, 21 May 2025 13:39:40 +0000 chdot 379725@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>More 20mph roads likely for London after research reveals injuries and collisions cut by a third </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/20mph-roads-london-research-injuries-collisions-tfl-will-norman-b1228903.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/20mph-roads-london-research-injuries-collisions-tfl-will-norman-b1228903.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-379379 Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:19:54 +0000 ejstubbs 379379@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Since I go that way quite frequently, I am constantly puzzled by the stretch of 30mph speed limit on the A70 in Slateford which starts for no obvious reason 70m short of the traffic lights for Inglis Green Road (westbound). Yes, the A70 is 30mph from that junction westwards, fair enough - but why does the higher speed limit start <u>before</u> that junction, in the middle of basically nowhere - especially when traffic turning right into Inglis Green Road is straight back into a 20mph limit all the way to the Longstone bus garage roundabout? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-376425 Tue, 03 Sep 2024 08:11:40 +0000 Frenchy 376425@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The map of the most recent proposals is here: <a href="https://cityofedinburgh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=d3530fbe026742e693dee6254ad6611d" rel="nofollow">https://cityofedinburgh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=d3530fbe026742e693dee6254ad6611d</a></p> <p>Cluny Gardens and Oxgangs Avenue were both done in earlier reviews. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-376423 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 22:59:56 +0000 ejstubbs 376423@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm pretty sure that Craiglockart Avenue was one of the streets proposed to have a 20mph limit. Also part of Oxgangs Road North IIRC.</p> <p>Come to think, weren't Cluny Gardens and Oxgangs Avenue included in the consultation? Both of those have been 20mph limits for some time now. Or were they part of a different plan and consultation? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-376421 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 20:15:00 +0000 Frenchy 376421@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The consultation page itself says:</p> <p>"Responses from the consultation will be used to inform detailed proposals which will be reported back to Committee towards the end of 2024."</p> <p>The latest TEC "work plan" shows "20mph Speed Limit Implementation Plan" planned for the December 2024 meeting: <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s73038/5.1%20-%20Work%20Programme.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s73038/5.1%20-%20Work%20Programme.pdf</a></p> <p>It was last discussed at TEC in April, as far as I can tell. Paragraphs 4.20-23 here: <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s69299/Item%207.1%20-%20Road%20Safety%20Delivery%20Plan%202024-25.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s69299/Item%207.1%20-%20Road%20Safety%20Delivery%20Plan%202024-25.pdf</a></p> <p>The webcast is <a href="https://edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/876299">here</a>. I haven't watched it, so have no idea if 20mph was even mentioned, but the road safety section starts at 1:51:30. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-376420 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 19:57:14 +0000 Dave 376420@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It just came up because someone rolled their car over on Lanark Road in Juniper Green and the community council mentioned a resident asked them about 20mph, as though there hadn't been a huge consultation on it recently. It was earmarked to be 20 on the diagram at the time. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-376418 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 19:52:53 +0000 Frenchy 376418@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Can you remember any of the specific streets involved? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=3#post-376416 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:25:08 +0000 Dave 376416@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>(I browsed around a few TEC meeting packs and the best I could find was a vague commitment to bring proposals to TEC late 2024) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=2#post-376414 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 15:47:05 +0000 Dave 376414@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Can someone point me at what the council actually decided to do following the consultations on expanding 20mph / rural west Edinburgh roads? I thought this would be easy to find, but I'm struggling </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=2#post-376313 Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:37:33 +0000 chdot 376313@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Welsh 20mph speed limit forces junior cycle race to shorten and reroute </p> <p>Three of five stages of Junior Tour of Wales changed as support vehicles would not have kept up with cyclists </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/23/welsh-20mph-speed-limit-forces-junior-cycle-race-to-shorten-and-reroute" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/23/welsh-20mph-speed-limit-forces-junior-cycle-race-to-shorten-and-reroute</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=2#post-376034 Mon, 05 Aug 2024 12:02:29 +0000 chdot 376034@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>There have been fewer people killed and injured on Wales's roads since the introduction of widespread 20mph speed limits, provisional collision data suggests — the Welsh government keen to point out that while the news is "encouraging" and a sign things are "moving in the right direction", the "volatile" nature of comparing collision statistics in the short-term means more data should be collected before any sweeping conclusions are made</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://road.cc/content/news/drop-casualties-welsh-roads-20mph-speed-limit-309709" rel="nofollow">https://road.cc/content/news/drop-casualties-welsh-roads-20mph-speed-limit-309709</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=2#post-375365 Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:45:44 +0000 neddie 375365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Could we get some enforcement in Edinburgh?</p> <p>Right now it feels completely lawless and with everyone just horsing around at 30mph or more. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=2#post-375362 Sun, 09 Jun 2024 22:36:27 +0000 chdot 375362@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Vehicle damage claims in Wales fall 20% since speed limit cut to 20mph, says insurer </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/09/vehicle-damage-claims-wales-fall-20mph-speed-limit" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/09/vehicle-damage-claims-wales-fall-20mph-speed-limit</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=2#post-374785 Wed, 01 May 2024 17:49:24 +0000 chdot 374785@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Speed limit cut to 4,000 Glasgow streets </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3g7x3lnxxo" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3g7x3lnxxo</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21227&page=2#post-372302 Fri, 15 Dec 2023 21:47:52 +0000 chdot 372302@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://inews.co.uk/opinion/20mph-limit-least-selfish-drivers-deserve-2809752" rel="nofollow">https://inews.co.uk/opinion/20mph-limit-least-selfish-drivers-deserve-2809752</a> </p>