http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Spezi 2023 en Sun, 24 May 2026 09:00:29 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-368613 Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:23:49 +0000 Arellcat 368613@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lightning F-40! Basically a proto-velomobile from a time before they were invented. Since it has neither solid floor nor multi-track configuration, we call it a streamliner, and Tim Brummer designed it for faster, longer rides like RAAM and PBP.</p> <p>Sure, it has pace of a velomobile and the lower rolling resistance of a bike, but it's tricky bordering on dangerous in cross-winds and is frankly completely impractical in any environment with traffic lights and stop lines. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367987 Tue, 09 May 2023 22:43:45 +0000 neddie 367987@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Streamliner American train vibes </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367983 Tue, 09 May 2023 20:20:21 +0000 LaidBack 367983@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One spotted by @jss on his return trip. Not sure how easy that would be on Leith Walk cycle lanes! :-)</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/52877315699/in/datetaken/" title="Lightning P38 with windsock"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52877315699_42a9f2c229.jpg" alt="Lightning P38 with windsock" /></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367921 Fri, 05 May 2023 15:22:47 +0000 LaidBack 367921@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@boghall - good pictorial overview. @jss in at least one shot!<br /> Lot of creative engineering energy across cargo, tandem and recumbent models.<br /> (Reminded me that the Raderwerk Milan velomobile was our first 'really niche' build with Bicycle Works. @arellcat helped with German instructions as it really was just about of bits with bodywork in two parts!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367906 Thu, 04 May 2023 22:29:52 +0000 boghall 367906@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spezi '23 photos.</p> <p><a href="https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0hGQOeMmGz8GHe" rel="nofollow">https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0hGQOeMmGz8GHe</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367904 Thu, 04 May 2023 21:37:52 +0000 LaidBack 367904@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Had on the road back report from @jss</p> <p>Seems the bit of the Rhine radweg with atrocious surface had virtually destroyed the back tyre of his recliner.<br /> Had a spare GP 4000 though.</p> <p>He connected to a few people I knew only from doing business. Shows how small a world the European scene is. Glad we opted to stay in EU (mentally).</p> <p>- M5 owner Bjorn - he cycled from Hamburg to Edinburgh for EdFoC<br /> - Honda from Czech brand Azub. Their reclined tandem was reviewed by @dave.<br /> - Radical bags and trailers. We helped them out to distribute bags after Brexit prevented them selling direct to customers in GB. (They still could of course in N. Ireland.)<br /> - ICE and Urban Arrow didn't attend - event maybe too small for them now.<br /> - Veloe from Italy were there with Multi (we have demo).<br /> - Bernds still doing tandems. Inspiration for Circe Helios. Design has changed from when we had one for school run / family transport.<br /> - Black Iron Horse cargo trike - new Danish brand - only one in Edinburgh so far. Rear wheel steer.<br /> - Velomobiel and Velowerk plus 12 other vm makes we never dealt with. Yes 14 velomobile brands at Spezi!</p> <p>Website has neat links to what was on display and a few videos somewhere.</p> <p><a href="https://en.spezialradmesse.de/" rel="nofollow">https://en.spezialradmesse.de/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367831 Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:13:59 +0000 LaidBack 367831@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Latest @jss report... my emphasis(!)</p> <p><blockquote>Afraid I spotted one too many cargo bikes cycling through Basel to Spezi.<br /> All driven at breakneck speed either by young bearded steam punkertypes or young frauleins with their kinder broods.<br /> <strong>Thinking these HGVs of the cycling world should be banned from cycle paths after experiencing several near misses</strong> from these hurtling large electrically assisted monster wheel barrows.<br /> At least not threatened by any velo torpedoes!<br /> BTW avoid Rhine radweg unless you have a fat bike!<br /> In their teutonic wisdom the Germans have thought it a great idea to cover it in thick pea gravel making it near impossible to cycle on a normal bike.<br /> Mainly the section from Breissach to Nueunberg.<br /> Better sticking to the silky smooth tarmac on the French side. Better wine too.</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367751 Tue, 25 Apr 2023 17:21:35 +0000 LaidBack 367751@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From spotted....<br /> <blockquote>On a dreich day here in Dole in the Jura enroute to Spezi 2023 in Germany spotted a heavily laden Pederson piloted by mid-late age chap<br /> On eurovelo 6 here which ends up in Budapest so quite a few bike packers pass through here . Bit early in the season just now</blockquote></p> <p>@jss - one day I need to visit that show. Keep us updated as it is a bit unique in the bike world. Think Azub are quite involved.<br /> Smooth travelling! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367519 Thu, 13 Apr 2023 09:24:48 +0000 LaidBack 367519@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@nobrakes That's true. Rode a Catbike once at Velovision magazine HQ around 2010. Quite nice.</p> <p>I see Velomobile world are looking for VM Ambassadors.<br /> Brilliant for a 'drive' to a known landing place with excellent energy use, comfort and interior carrying capacity. No need for electrics but the 'shark mobile' Quest in city does have a motor. @arellcat's only has battery for lights. Human power delivers easily when drag is so low.</p> <p><a href="https://www.velomobileworld.com/i-want-to-be-an-ambassador/" rel="nofollow">https://www.velomobileworld.com/i-want-to-be-an-ambassador/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367516 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 21:53:30 +0000 nobrakes 367516@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks a bit like a Catbike Musashi, but a little less extreme. I wonder how much it weighs. As a Fuego owner weight has never been a huge consideration though :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367515 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 21:43:22 +0000 LaidBack 367515@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They've got a lot of things right. Very ergonomic design and easy to ride too I reckon.<br /> <a href="https://www.wolfundwolf.ch/fr/velo-couche/modeles-et-configurateur/alpentourer-at1/238/at1-alpentourer-configurateur?c=119" rel="nofollow">https://www.wolfundwolf.ch/fr/velo-couche/modeles-et-configurateur/alpentourer-at1/238/at1-alpentourer-configurateur?c=119</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367508 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:38:01 +0000 LaidBack 367508@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Wolf und Wolf who make a great recumbent two wheeler with a great Swiss price tag<br /> Rear end is P38 and front end Fuego like</blockquote></p> <p>How can I resist! Suppose I should become a dealer... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367500 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:49:37 +0000 jss 367500@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No ! On venerable Lightning P38 but as years advance an old man’s thoughts do turn toward electric assist more and more like looking forward to the comfort of a warm electric blanket at night which was something I never even thought about until I hit my mid 70’s<br /> Think the show might well be obsessed with cargo bikes though<br /> I do not thing many 2 wheel recumbents although the new owners are Wolf und Wolf who make a great recumbent two wheeler with a great Swiss price tag<br /> Rear end is P38 and front end Fuego like<br /> Glad you are back safe and sound from SA </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367496 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 20:26:43 +0000 LaidBack 367496@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Should be my thing. Just back from SA though. Spezi maybe the last cycling event not to be obsessed by e-bikes? That alone makes it a worthwhile trip.<br /> (Or are you using one of your assisted bikes? :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21283#post-367493 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 18:44:36 +0000 jss 367493@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone planning to go to the Spezi special bike show at the end of the month in Lauchringen Germany<br /> Recumbents ,Velomobiles rowing bikes and other weird stuff</p> <p>I am cycling there from France along the Rhine if anyone is interested in joining up for some of the route </p>