http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: mass market macho bike with hub gears? en Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:18:52 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158&page=2#post-42281 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 18:46:59 +0000 Uberuce 42281@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><code>"I have spotted two Cannondale bad boys (my favorite macho urban bike) with Alfine hubs now. "</code></p> <p>One of the teachers at the primary school I work in has a Badboy Fatty. Aside from her taste in bikes, she's not what I'd describe as macho. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158&page=2#post-42266 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 14:03:52 +0000 kaputnik 42266@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I semi-regularly see a white slick-tyred hard-tail MTB on my commute with a hub gear. It has a "lefty" fork (i.e. only one arm) so I assume it's a Cannondale that the owner has seen fit to remove the stickers from. It certainly is <em>trying</em> to look macho. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158&page=2#post-37951 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:25:08 +0000 Smudge 37951@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Kaputnik "What's not macho about mudguards?"</p> <p>Indeed, I always think a street bike with no mudguards looks like a bit of a fair weather primadonna, and when I sometimes see them used in the rain/mud, that the riders all seem to look like they need a good wash and/or have suffered a spectacular toilet based accident!</p> <p>Mudguards <em>are</em> the new macho ;-)) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158&page=2#post-37950 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:14:23 +0000 gowgowuk 37950@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've has a Specialized Globe Vienna 4 (with nexus 8 hub, I think) for 2 1/2 years and I'm more than delighted with it. Never had a single problem with it... I'm surprised that the hub bikes didn't take off more: at the time, there used to be 3 or 4 models with hubs in the Co-op, but I'm not even sure they have some now... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158&page=2#post-37949 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:13:09 +0000 chdot 37949@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"6 inches of water at Edin Park Station underpass"</p> <p>Think bailing this out - on a daily basis - should be a condition of getting a bonus for leaving tie. </p> <p>That might get it sorted quicker... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158&page=2#post-37948 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:06:17 +0000 Nelly 37948@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Macho or not, I was glad of the full mudguards this morning going through the <strong>6 inches</strong> of water at Edin Park Station underpass.</p> <p>I feel sorry for less well endowed bikes at that point ! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-37927 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:31:43 +0000 kaputnik 37927@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What's not macho about mudguards? :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-37903 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:03:25 +0000 wangi 37903@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm guessing my Trek Soho fails the macho test, what with the guards and all... (although to man myself up - did get it after cracking the frame clean through on my MTB) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-37899 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:56:36 +0000 cc 37899@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been looking for something like a <a href="http://www.workcycles.com/home-products/handmade-city-bicycles/workcycles-secret-service-mens">WorkCycles Secret Service</a> with optional aluminium frame, but nobody in Scotland seems to sell them and I quail at the thought of buying a bike in Amsterdam and shipping it over. One day maybe. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-37874 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:15:37 +0000 naldo 37874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I use a Dawes <a href="http://www.dawescycles.com/p-431-haarlem-gents.aspx">Haarlem Gents</a>, got it in Leith Cycles. Have commuted from Leith to Newington on it every day since Jan 2010, only maintenance has been a new chain and brake pads. I love it! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-25920 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:15:32 +0000 kaputnik 25920@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>EBC launched their revolution 2011 line today. They now carry nothing with a hub gear. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22906 Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:43:41 +0000 gembo 22906@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>there was a contradiction in SRD's original request in that hub gears cannot be macho, not even the Rohloff 14</p> <p>now amended to not standing out. Again any hub gear will stand out.</p> <p>I still think my suggestion of the fast EBC courier that looks like a run of the mill hybrid but has semi-slick tyres and only 7 gears is the one (if they still do it, not been in the catalogue for a while). Mr SRD would not stand out in that but also lower maintenance and faster speed, </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22805 Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:23:15 +0000 druidh 22805@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm still not sure what it is you're after, but stealthy matt-black Cube Hydes and Hoopers look "masculine" enough. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22797 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:48:52 +0000 kaputnik 22797@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>non-trendy is the new trendy! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22795 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:41:20 +0000 SRD 22795@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Okay, I should've put macho in 'scare quotes' to denote a little irony. I'm just thinking of people who want non-trendy bikes, just something that doesn't stand out. I quite like the retro men's bikes, but they're not my guy's style.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22794 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:36:09 +0000 kaputnik 22794@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I think of "macho" frame design I think full-suspension downhill MTBs with people in body armour and full face helmets calling eachother "dude" and using words like "gnarly" and "extreme". But then that's just a figment of my over-active imagination at work and I really don't know what I'm talking about. The macho-est bikes are the old gents in their 60s and 70s still powering along on antique hub-geared Flying Scots. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22790 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:31:10 +0000 Greenroofer 22790@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think this is quite macho.<br /> <a href="http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/seek.0/4864/38991/">http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/seek.0/4864/38991/</a></p> <p>It's got an Alfine hub and you can look at it in EBC.</p> <p>As for actual <strong>commuting</strong>, it's not got mudguards or a rack, so it's more about form than function </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22787 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:14:34 +0000 seanspotatobusiness 22787@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>One of the male people in the work bike snob club spent several forum inches last year inviting praise on his purchase of a hub-geared version Charge Mixer. The marketing and reviews referred to during this unpleasant period appeared to draw attention to the perceived (projected) abilities of the bike to nip quickly through traffic and generally make commuting EXTREME! fun and exciting. Perhaps the bike was sold with a handbook advising the rider to pretend that cars were boulders and that they were riding down a mountain through an avalanche. </blockquote></p> <p>That post is epic!! :D</p> <p>I'm ostensibly male and I ride a Pashley Princess Sovereign. Does that count? :D</p> <p>It's a shame that the frame has to be "macho" rather than ergonomic or otherwise practical in order to be considered by the majority of people. :( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22784 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:30:02 +0000 gembo 22784@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aldine better than nexus 8. Hubs are heavier. eBC did a courier with only 7 gears on the back and single ring on front. This wa lighter, faster, easier to fix. If I could turn back time I would gonfor that over the nexus8</p> <p>CherGembo </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22782 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 19:37:21 +0000 LaidBack 22782@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>John Anderson of the Bicycle Works has got a single speed one (as he's the Guvnor!*). Just looking for photographic proof.</p> <p><em>* Jointly with Andrew D</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22775 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:00:51 +0000 Mellow Velo 22775@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You'd look the business on this one:</p> <p><a href="http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/guvnor-3-speed.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/guvnor-3-speed.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22763 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:21:41 +0000 ruggtomcat 22763@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have spotted two Cannondale bad boys (my favorite macho urban bike) with Alfine hubs now. </p> <p>A little checking and yes its a production model, the Bad Boy 8.</p> <p><a href="http://lockies.blogspot.com/2008/06/cannondale-bad-boy-8-new-commuter.html">here is one of a few reviews I found</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22755 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:14:31 +0000 recombodna 22755@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My polo beater has a Shimano nexus 3 speed hub. No brazeons required as there is outer cabling all the way from shifter to hub. I just use unsightly cable ties to hold the cable to the frame and it all works fine. It also has a coaster brake so I can pretend skid stop.......all the macho prowess of a fixed gear street warrior with the feminine braking agility of a pashley princess...... :-) ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22753 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:53:02 +0000 miggy_magic 22753@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>EBC at one point stocked the Genesis Day One (with Alfine 8 speed hub).<br /> <a href="http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f_ProductID=12859&amp;f_FullProductVersion=1">EBC link</a><br /> It wasn't in the last time I checked because they had all their sales bike out, but I imagine it will be back on display.</p> <p>They are popular because they're priced inside the Bike To work scheme limit (999 quid). I was thinking of getting that one, or the Pompetamine with the alfine hub, if my wife agrees, which she won't because i have 2 bikes already. I heard the Alfine 11 speed hub is meant to be much better, so might wait until that's on general sale.</p> <p>I would say it was macho, but then again I quite enjoy watching the Eurovision song contest. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22751 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:31:44 +0000 kaputnik 22751@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You might get a problem trying to add hub gears to a SS as none of the mass-market frames seem to come with any cabling braze-ons. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22749 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:25:48 +0000 Arellcat 22749@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Carrera Subway 8 was a nice attempt at a hybrid-mountain-commuting sort of bike. I seem to remember it used the 8spd Shimano Nexus hub, along with roller cam hub brakes. It was in the same macho gunmetally grey vein as EBC's Revolution Courier bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22748 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:25:47 +0000 SRD 22748@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Pathfinder Nexus looks macho enough for me. Will definitely encourage him to check that out when we're in a position to replace the current one. And or the others suggested. Thanks everyone! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22746 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:18:58 +0000 alibali 22746@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have a Pathfinder Nexus, and it is heavy, but OK for commuting. Doesn't tick the Macho box so how about the Cannondale Bad Boy? Should do the trick.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22744 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:17:44 +0000 steveo 22744@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How hard would it be to convert a single speed to hub gears. The EBC Courier single is fairly cheap I'm sure you could get TBW to build up a rear wheel and do the fiddling for not a huge amount of money. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2158#post-22737 Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:57:23 +0000 kaputnik 22737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Cooper I was thinking of was <a href="http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/bikes/road/product/t100-zandvoort-11-43117">this one</a>, the Z100 Zandvoort. Not cheap at £675 and it does smack a bit of looks over practicality (narrow sawn-off flat bars, no guard / rack / cage brazeons). However those things don't seem to be the "urban" criteria that Cycling plus seem to be reviewing against. Also not really a lightweight at 11kg - you could get something cheaper and more practical and lighter by commuterifying a mid-range road bike.</p> <p>@SRD - I get the feeling that EBC are sellign off all the 2010 Revolution models and that the 2011 ones will be a long shortly. There was a pathfinder nexus 10 on the website, but only in 22" frame. </p>