http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Council budget consultation en Thu, 21 May 2026 05:17:35 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21598#post-376315 Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:04:38 +0000 neddie 376315@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Meanwhile, away from EEN “destroy your own city” land:</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/article/2024/aug/23/labour-is-right-about-ltns-the-tories-need-to-learn-the-same-lesson" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/article/2024/aug/23/labour-is-right-about-ltns-the-tories-need-to-learn-the-same-lesson</a></p> <p><blockquote> For all the initial noise against low-traffic neighbourhoods, most people like them and they can <strong>benefit the public purse</strong></blockquote></p> <p>My bold</p> <p><blockquote> It follows the “controversy-acceptance cycle” for street, and many other, changes: noisy opposition at the start, albeit usually from a minority, which disappears after a year or two if councils and politicians hold their nerve. </blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21598#post-376314 Fri, 23 Aug 2024 15:08:09 +0000 toomanybikes 376314@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What's the point in any of this? However accurate, it shouldn't be done by some popular opinion referendum. Look at evidence, do things that help. Policy by focus group is quite rightly derided, but make it a survey and it's fine? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21598#post-376312 Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:03:57 +0000 neddie 376312@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>it was not a “representative sample of residents” and it was not possible to “extrapolate from this response what the views of all Edinburgh residents would be”</blockquote></p> <p>So why are they doing non-representative surveys at all? All they are doing is setting themselves up for a fall, and perpetuating transport injustice by listening to the views of the shouty minority.</p> <p>Where's the voice of the children in all of this? Where's the voice of my son who would just like to be able to cycle safely to his swimming class, to avoid clogging up the roads with "parent taxis"? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21598#post-376311 Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:43:30 +0000 Stickman 376311@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-council-urged-to-cut-costs-by-scrapping-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-4753527" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-council-urged-to-cut-costs-by-scrapping-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-4753527</a></p> <p><blockquote> The most popular proposal to reduce costs, backed by 712 respondents, was to ‘stop’ controversial Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs)</p> <p>Reduce active travel’ was in second place with 588 mentions</blockquote></p> <p>Linking to actual reports seems beneath newspapers these days, so here it is: </p> <p><a href="https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/cg/budget-engagement-2024/" rel="nofollow">https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/cg/budget-engagement-2024/</a></p> <p>Reading the responses, it’s clear that the underlying issue is decades of underfunding and not the relatively small amounts recently allocated to cycling projects. </p>