http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: drop kerb question en Mon, 18 May 2026 23:14:29 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379378 Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:00:53 +0000 ejstubbs 379378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suspect that was just contractors i.e. not actually council employees doing what they were paid to do i.e. resurfacing. I doubt it would have been in their remit to police illegal access ramps, and I also doubt they would have any understanding of the legal status of such modifications to the public highway.</p> <p>(I have a fairly poor opinion of road resurfacing contractors. The strangely not-very-bendy-at-all Caiystane Crescent was resurfaced a year or so before lockdown and within months the new surface was deteriorating, with quantities of loose gravel being washed/swept by traffic into the gullies and longitudinal cracks which quickly turned in to furrows - potentially lethal to bikes both pedal and motor - appearing along the crown of the road. It was re-done last year and the same problems are already re-manifesting. It probably doesn't help in their selection of materials if they believe it to be a sleepy residential side street rather than the twice-daily rush hour rat-run that it actually is.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379375 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 23:22:57 +0000 Dave 379375@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Half way down Lanark Rd the house with all the cars have just concreted a ramp up the kerb to what street view shows is a relatively recent new hole in their garden wall.</p> <p>When the council came along to resurface, far from removing it, they just top dressed the illicit ramp too! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379372 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:49:09 +0000 ejstubbs 379372@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So, should one report these cowboy ramps to...someone? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379368 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 18:58:39 +0000 pringlis 379368@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You are correct ejstubbs, and that's a particularly egregious example. Asides from the points you mentioned on rainwater and hazard, it also stops people parking next to the non-dropped kerb that they're using as a driveway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379367 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 18:08:42 +0000 ejstubbs 379367@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Would I be right in thinking that the same applies to people who fit those rubber kerb ramps - which I believe are usually sold as <u>portable</u> aids for people delivering trolley loads of stuff to premises with no dropped kerb - in the gully outside their property? There are quite a few of those along Greenbank Road e.g. <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9167012,-3.2215804,3a,23y,52.75h,68.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6zfWqUE6zw7qdO_1ZIas9g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D21.762104633949804%26panoid%3D6zfWqUE6zw7qdO_1ZIas9g%26yaw%3D52.75200907658419!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQyMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D">here</a>, mostly bolted to the road somehow.</p> <p>Quite apart from obstructing the flow of rainwater along the gully, they are potentially a hazard to cyclists who prefer to stick close to the kerb. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379363 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 15:52:34 +0000 Baldcyclist 379363@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.tpos.co.uk/news-media-and-press-releases/case-studies/item/an-undropped-kerb-misleading-action#:~:text=Whilst%20not%20universal%20knowledge%2C%20it,Highways%20Department%20permission%20is%20needed" rel="nofollow">https://www.tpos.co.uk/news-media-and-press-releases/case-studies/item/an-undropped-kerb-misleading-action#:~:text=Whilst%20not%20universal%20knowledge%2C%20it,Highways%20Department%20permission%20is%20needed</a></p> <p>"Whilst not universal knowledge, it is generally known that it is illegal to mount a kerb and drive across a pavement to access a property; that street parking is permissible where there is no dropped kerb (subject of course to any specific local parking restrictions); and that Highways Department permission is needed to drop a kerb (and planning consent if the road is classified)."</p> <p>They should apply/pay to have the kerb dropped - they would probably get permission given precident of other neighbours.</p> <p>At the moment they are driving over the pavement, which is illegal, and anyone can park in front of their car (if street parking available). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379359 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 14:34:55 +0000 Morningsider 379359@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It is an offence, under Section 59 of the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984, to place or deposit anything on a road that causes an obstruction without the written permission of the roads authority (Council). </p> <p>If the gravel is causing an obstruction (probably a bit of a grey area) then the Council would ask the homeowner to remove it, only moving to enforcement action if they then refused. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21726#post-379357 Thu, 24 Apr 2025 13:22:49 +0000 SRD 379357@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A house near me has a drop kerb for their driveway, but a new occupant recently paved over the garden and now uses that for parking as well. </p> <p>I've just noticed that while the former garden doesn't have a drop kerb, they appear* to have filled the gully with gravel and stuff, to create a slope up to the pavement. Not all of it, but maybe 50-100 cm. </p> <p>thoughts? can I ask the council to come clear the gully? </p> <p>*Its possible it was like that before and I didn't notice </p>