http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “Edinburgh city centre Future of Princes Street and George Street up for debate” en Fri, 07 Aug 2026 09:13:38 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385344 Fri, 07 Aug 2026 08:17:31 +0000 chdot 385344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah Party politics, that’ll speed things up</p> <p>ThisIsEdinburgh </p> <p>“<br /> Following a meeting between the Deputy First Minister and the Edinburgh Council Leader at the site of the Princes Street blaze, there has been a degree of political Following a meeting between the Deputy First Minister and the Edinburgh Council Leader at the site of the Princes Street blaze, there has been a degree of political fallout. fallout. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2026/08/councils-snp-group-leader-criticises-council-leader-for-her-petty-party-politics/?ref=edinburghminute.com" rel="nofollow">https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2026/08/councils-snp-group-leader-criticises-council-leader-for-her-petty-party-politics/?ref=edinburghminute.com</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385331 Thu, 06 Aug 2026 08:21:08 +0000 chdot 385331@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-council-leader-hits-out-at-john-swinneys-shameful-lack-of-response-as-scottish-government-announces-ps5m-support-four-weeks-on-8841193" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-council-leader-hits-out-at-john-swinneys-shameful-lack-of-response-as-scottish-government-announces-ps5m-support-four-weeks-on-8841193</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385322 Wed, 05 Aug 2026 14:06:33 +0000 chdot 385322@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/ps5m-edinburgh-fire-recovery-funding-8840201" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/ps5m-edinburgh-fire-recovery-funding-8840201</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385313 Wed, 05 Aug 2026 07:56:14 +0000 edinburgh87 385313@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Rode down there yesterday on way to work - immediate thought was that the buses would be flowing better if there was a temporary ban on private vehicles crossing the city centre S&gt;N at the West End. Lothian Motorcoach also disgorging a load of people outside the Caledonian blocking one of the two N-bound lanes on Lothian Road, too. Just sort of feels like there's not much thinking out side of the box.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385309 Tue, 04 Aug 2026 15:28:05 +0000 chdot 385309@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/princes-street-fire-closure-of-street-set-to-impact-edinburghs-vital-visitor-economy-8836561" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/princes-street-fire-closure-of-street-set-to-impact-edinburghs-vital-visitor-economy-8836561</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385293 Mon, 03 Aug 2026 17:43:56 +0000 chdot 385293@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-stark-briefing-spells-out-scale-of-task-facing-engineers-trying-to-save-former-debenhams-store-8836053" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-stark-briefing-spells-out-scale-of-task-facing-engineers-trying-to-save-former-debenhams-store-8836053</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385131 Mon, 20 Jul 2026 20:42:52 +0000 chdot 385131@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/14449/princes-street-closure-progress-update" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/14449/princes-street-closure-progress-update</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385108 Fri, 17 Jul 2026 10:42:41 +0000 bakky 385108@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>More Whyteaboutery platformed by the chip wrapper there. Gumption a-lacking all round </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385106 Fri, 17 Jul 2026 09:12:10 +0000 chdot 385106@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-raises-questions-over-long-term-pedestrianisation-plans-for-george-street-8801640" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-raises-questions-over-long-term-pedestrianisation-plans-for-george-street-8801640</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385104 Thu, 16 Jul 2026 22:09:54 +0000 chdot 385104@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26285528.shops-linked-princes-street-fire-raided-unpaid-business-rates/" rel="nofollow">https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26285528.shops-linked-princes-street-fire-raided-unpaid-business-rates/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385102 Thu, 16 Jul 2026 16:51:15 +0000 chdot 385102@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“<br /> Now, in a letter to First Minister John Swinney, Edinburgh North Eastern and Leith MSP Ben Macpherson called on the Scottish Government to provide “additional assistance” to the organisations involved in dealing with the aftermath of the fire. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/ben-macpherson-scottish-government-leith-disruption-8802751" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/ben-macpherson-scottish-government-leith-disruption-8802751</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385096 Thu, 16 Jul 2026 12:45:55 +0000 chdot 385096@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-debenhams-demolition-alternatives-urged-8794652" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-debenhams-demolition-alternatives-urged-8794652</a> </p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/leith-businesses-hit-by-ongoing-tram-network-issues-following-princes-street-fire-8801283" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/leith-businesses-hit-by-ongoing-tram-network-issues-following-princes-street-fire-8801283</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385089 Thu, 16 Jul 2026 09:53:30 +0000 chdot 385089@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>It is expected that disruption will continue into at least the beginning of the festival season in August. Millions of visitors are expected to flood the city centre next month </p> <p>…</p> <p>The local authority previously announced that the avenue would be off-limits to vehicular traffic between Hanover Street and Frederick Street from July 30 to September 1.</p> <p>However, The Herald understands that the pedestrian and cycle-only zone is now not expected to go ahead as planned, at least for the first part of August. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://archive.ph/ja3oN" rel="nofollow">https://archive.ph/ja3oN</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385078 Tue, 14 Jul 2026 17:26:31 +0000 chdot 385078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“<br /> Breaking news: Princes Street closed 'into August' </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghminute.com/breaking-news-princes-street-closed-into-august/?ref=the-edinburgh-minute-newsletter" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghminute.com/breaking-news-princes-street-closed-into-august/?ref=the-edinburgh-minute-newsletter</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385076 Tue, 14 Jul 2026 11:26:27 +0000 chdot 385076@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-ruby-hotel-delays-8794322" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-ruby-hotel-delays-8794322</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898&page=2#post-385073 Tue, 14 Jul 2026 07:38:56 +0000 chdot 385073@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The Edinburgh Bus Users’ Group (EBUG) is calling on the City of Edinburgh Council to implement immediate, temporary bus priority measures in the First New Town to prevent total gridlock. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://edinburghbususers.group/an-open-letter-to-the-city-of-edinburgh-council-urgent-temporary-bus-priority-needed-following-princes-street-fire-2?ref=edinburghminute.com" rel="nofollow">https://edinburghbususers.group/an-open-letter-to-the-city-of-edinburgh-council-urgent-temporary-bus-priority-needed-following-princes-street-fire-2?ref=edinburghminute.com</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385072 Tue, 14 Jul 2026 07:36:42 +0000 chdot 385072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>"It is a fluid situation and it will be changing, sometimes hour to hour." </p> <p>He added: "Once we've got a date for length of time for this, that will determine whether the upcoming closures, for example of George Street for the festival, has to be a consideration or not." </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yz1w5p66go?ref=edinburghminute.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yz1w5p66go?ref=edinburghminute.com</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385067 Mon, 13 Jul 2026 21:52:24 +0000 chdot 385067@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26276273.billionaire-landlord-linked-princes-street-fire-building" rel="nofollow">https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26276273.billionaire-landlord-linked-princes-street-fire-building</a> </p> <p><a href="https://archive.ph/d9M66" rel="nofollow">https://archive.ph/d9M66</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385066 Mon, 13 Jul 2026 19:07:40 +0000 Yodhrin 385066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot</p> <p><blockquote>But the source added that the economics of the site would have improved as a result of the fire because there would now be fewer restrictions on what a developer is allowed to do</blockquote></p> <p>Yeah they really should close that loophole. Put in a clause for listed buildings that if they mysteriously burn down then the owners are required to undertake a full accurate restoration of the listed features. I know the conservationists will say "what's the point" and "that's just pastiche", but it's not about what was there, it's about making it too costly to pull the scam in the first place. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385063 Mon, 13 Jul 2026 17:16:32 +0000 chdot 385063@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/council-says-its-too-early-to-say-when-princes-street-will-reopen-amid-calls-for-emergency-traffic-measures-8793538" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/council-says-its-too-early-to-say-when-princes-street-will-reopen-amid-calls-for-emergency-traffic-measures-8793538</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385043 Sat, 11 Jul 2026 10:04:46 +0000 chdot 385043@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>building ‘It will likely be a gap site for sometime to come’ - property insider </p> <p>…</p> <p>But the source added that the economics of the site would have improved as a result of the fire because there would now be fewer restrictions on what a developer is allowed to do</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-developer-behind-hotel-and-pod-hotel-project-at-former-debenhams-store-could-quit-site-8790378" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-developer-behind-hotel-and-pod-hotel-project-at-former-debenhams-store-could-quit-site-8790378</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385040 Fri, 10 Jul 2026 17:43:18 +0000 chdot 385040@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/fears-for-architectural-treasures-destroyed-in-princes-street-fire-including-beautifully-preserved-memorial-library-8788369" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/fears-for-architectural-treasures-destroyed-in-princes-street-fire-including-beautifully-preserved-memorial-library-8788369</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385031 Fri, 10 Jul 2026 14:03:40 +0000 chdot 385031@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-structural-engineers-say-top-two-storeys-of-former-debenhams-store-must-come-down-8788171" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/princes-street-fire-structural-engineers-say-top-two-storeys-of-former-debenhams-store-must-come-down-8788171</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385028 Fri, 10 Jul 2026 07:47:20 +0000 chdot 385028@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Drone photos</p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/61556114806724/" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/61556114806724/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385027 Thu, 09 Jul 2026 23:48:40 +0000 chdot 385027@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55384110491_eddb6ba2cb_b.jpg"></p> <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55384293209_cab8a9ef33_z.jpg"></p> <p>Meanwhile on George St, <em>very</em> slow moving wall of buses</p> <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55384819399_1cc4b2a8f0_b.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385026 Thu, 09 Jul 2026 20:27:13 +0000 gembo 385026@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>He says definitely Global Warming not an insurance job </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385025 Thu, 09 Jul 2026 18:03:08 +0000 chdot 385025@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26267673.owner-historic-edinburgh-princes-street-building-speaks-fire/" rel="nofollow">https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26267673.owner-historic-edinburgh-princes-street-building-speaks-fire/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385024 Thu, 09 Jul 2026 17:10:26 +0000 ejstubbs 385024@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the pictures I've seen so far I fear that the historic staircase with its stained glass, and the Gladstone Library will have been lost.</p> <p>Funny how <a href="https://portal.historicenvironment.scot/apex/f?p=1505:300:::::VIEWTYPE,VIEWREF:designation,LB29512">listed buildings</a> seem to have a tendency to catch fire after they are bought by a developer...</p> <p>(And of course it must be a complete coincidence that the tenants of the ground floor <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Edinburgh/comments/1esxik0/the_former_debenhams_princes_st_is_now_a_holy/">nothing-at-all-to-do-with-money-laundering-honest-guv retail premises</a> had all left recently.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-385023 Thu, 09 Jul 2026 08:08:43 +0000 chdot 385023@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/regions/edinburgh-fife-and-lothians/princes-street-fire-live-emergency-services-deal-with-major-fire-on-edinburghs-main-street-8786232" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/regions/edinburgh-fife-and-lothians/princes-street-fire-live-emergency-services-deal-with-major-fire-on-edinburghs-main-street-8786232</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/emergency-incident/huge-blaze-rips-through-building-in-edinburghs-princes-street-8786233" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/emergency-incident/huge-blaze-rips-through-building-in-edinburghs-princes-street-8786233</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21898#post-384928 Tue, 30 Jun 2026 20:17:52 +0000 gembo 384928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I cycle on Princes St for possibly fifty metres coming out of St Andrews Sq then going down to Waverley. I have a line I take at the lights over to the far side of the tram tracks so I am not crossing them in traffic. that is it for me tho as the street is whacked. spokes have noticed as many cycle on Princes Street as George St which to me is only semi-whacked.</p> <p>I would say calling something Ambitious Pragmatism is oxymoronic. Like that is just my opinion man. I vote for the Richard Murphy redesign. If I get a vote. do I get a vote? </p>