http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: At the EEN subs desk... en Tue, 19 May 2026 13:20:00 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333&page=2#post-245304 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 15:09:01 +0000 Frenchy 245304@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Promise? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245302 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:59:23 +0000 I were right about that saddle 245302@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Promise?</em></p> <p>What I actually meant was 'if nobody bothers to produce an IWRATS parody account I will flounce'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245300 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:12:34 +0000 threefromleith 245300@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I sometimes wonder if almost everyone on there is a parody account. </p> <p>Surely the level of ignorance and prejudice that this lot exhibit on EVERY story they comment on can't be real, can it?! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245299 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:08:19 +0000 deckard112 245299@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I thought Man the Barricades was a parody account? I've always been amused at their blaming of cyclists for every single news story! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245289 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:20:11 +0000 Frenchy 245289@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Promise? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245288 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:02:12 +0000 I were right about that saddle 245288@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If anyone creates an 'I were wrong about that saddle' account on here I will flounce. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245286 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:57:18 +0000 Stickman 245286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some people have way too much time on their hands. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245285 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:56:21 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 245285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@eddie_h</p> <p>“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-245284 Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:47:28 +0000 neddie 245284@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There seems to be a trend going on in the EEN commentariat of someone (or some people) creating a kind of parody account for each of the other regular posters e.g.:</p> <p>Man The Barricades -&gt; Mandy Barricades<br /> samlang -&gt; spamlang<br /> On The Ball -&gt; On the Bile<br /> heyheyhey -&gt; gaygaygay<br /> Scott Mann -&gt; Scott Woman<br /> exercise dodger -&gt; exercise todger</p> <p>Not sure if this is a new phenomena or not...? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-244072 Sun, 05 Mar 2017 20:27:48 +0000 Rosie 244072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also, has Sadik-Khan says, "everyone likes to watch a fight". Arm-wrestling is a more exciting spectacle than discussion towards a consensus, or let's agree to disagree. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-244071 Sun, 05 Mar 2017 20:26:44 +0000 Rosie 244071@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot</p> <p>I take part in raucous comments threads on strident blogs, but what's said about Lesley Hines wouldn't be allowed through. It's really vile. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-244067 Sun, 05 Mar 2017 19:42:42 +0000 chdot 244067@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Local media tend to look for negative notes to attract readership. They tend to be small editorial and journalist teams that do not follow stories though in as much detail. The result is that they tend to report negatively and with factual mistakes. This puts massive pressure on local politicians. Cycling is even more adversely affected as cycling schemes are rare and misunderstood.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://bristolcycling.org.uk/barriers-to-investing-in-cycling" rel="nofollow">https://bristolcycling.org.uk/barriers-to-investing-in-cycling</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243904 Fri, 03 Mar 2017 09:59:10 +0000 Frenchy 243904@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also relevant: <a href="https://www.xkcd.com/481/" rel="nofollow">https://www.xkcd.com/481/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243902 Fri, 03 Mar 2017 09:48:44 +0000 steveo 243902@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>XKCD way ahead of the game, if only we could get the EEN to implement.</p> <p><a href="https://xkcd.com/810/" rel="nofollow">https://xkcd.com/810/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243899 Fri, 03 Mar 2017 08:07:47 +0000 gembo 243899@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@snowy That is unfair, the comment bot is triggered but when the public reply they have to do a short multiplication test to prove not bot or else we would get an infinite loop of bots talking to each other?</p> <p>There is a famous counselling bot that just repeats back to you what you said (maybe switches active to passive sebtence structure). Was very popular on Internet. Some people talking to it for up to two hours. Maybe they were bots too </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243897 Fri, 03 Mar 2017 00:29:23 +0000 Snowy 243897@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Quite often it's glaringly obvious that comments have been written without the story being read, even just in part.</em></p> <p>Comment bots are now a proper 'thing', apparently. As in, keywords in an article are likely to lead to the comment bot contributing a related, inflammatory remark, to seed discussions in the advocated direction.</p> <p>Some are obvious, but some are very realistic. </p> <p>Most of them are probably several IQ points above a regular EEN commentator. (sorry) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243884 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 21:01:05 +0000 neddie 243884@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Necrobumping </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243878 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 19:33:20 +0000 gembo 243878@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@klaxon our illustrious leader is fond of that excellent photo / picture of disintegrated marchmont cycle path.</p> <p>Hilariously six years ago there might have been a sub editor at the EEN now the office cat does that job </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243876 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 19:22:06 +0000 Klaxon 243876@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>While I appreciate an effort to keep linked topics together is bumping a six year old post really the right way to do it </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-243860 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 14:49:03 +0000 neddie 243860@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Norway news site checks you read the story before commenting</p> <p><em>...there's a reason why many news sites have abandoned comments sections altogether, and it's often because they provide little of merit. That's not to say readers don't have thoughtful views on the stories covered, but more that commenters aren't actually readers at all. Quite often it's glaringly obvious that comments have been written without the story being read, even just in part.</em></p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39137193" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39137193</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24722 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:58:46 +0000 chdot 24722@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"they might just fluke it despite their best efforts(!)"</p> <p>Well yes and but.</p> <p>This was one of the first posts on here.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS69oIAa5UU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS69oIAa5UU</a></p> <p>.</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17</a></p> <p>Over a year ago.</p> <p>IF CEC was remotely serious it would deal with some of the basics - like repainting existing cycle lanes and Advance Stop Lines/boxes.</p> <p>BUT</p> <p>THIS IS ......... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24721 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:30:13 +0000 Smudge 24721@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>and yet, and yet, they might just fluke it despite their best efforts(!)<br /> Almost every month I seem to see an increase in the number of bicycles about, sales figures keep improving, every new bit of bicycle parking seems to fill up and the ranters on the een are slowly starting to sound more and more like the loonies who everyone ignores in the pub :-) I don't know if it's the recession, marketing, olympic success, congestion, public profile, health worries, improved image, probably a mixture of most of these things and the more it builds the easier it is for it to be "normal". We are even at the point where I read of complaints about bicycle "congestion" on the canal towpath, and I promise if that'd been mentioned fifteen or twenty years ago everyone in the room would have laughed! Not there yet, but Edinburgh is changing (even though you need an all terrain bike to navigate it in any comfort, sigh) fingers crossed it snowballs :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24717 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:51:32 +0000 chdot 24717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The councils 15% target is laudable, but not sure how we will attract more bods given the current bike infrastructure."</p> <p>Well yes.</p> <p>Part of me is glad that they are still talking about 15% AND "by 2020" (if the ENews is to be believed. I think there was a backtrack to this being an "aspiration" rather than a "commitment" a while ago).</p> <p>The rest of me knows that there is no chance (<em>please prove me wrong CEC</em>) without a change of attitude/practice by various bits of the council - AND more money.</p> <p>Meanwhile the 'long suffering motorists'/'hard pressed retailers' get wound up and people who cycle (or want to) find it difficult to back the council wholeheartedly as (in things like this) they get the 'blame' without many of the 'promised benefits'.</p> <p>CEC could of course keep drivers AND bike riders happy by fixing the potholes and other road defects. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24709 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:33:04 +0000 Nelly 24709@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>EEN seems to enjoy making sensasionalist editorials and attracting the loony element to comment.</p> <p>The councils 15% target is laudable, but not sure how we will attract more bods given the current bike infrastructure.</p> <p>Being brutally honest, unless you are fairly streetwise, cycling in town (especially when it is dark / gloomy) can on occasion be dangerous. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24706 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:46 +0000 Dave 24706@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was compelled to comment. Urgh - I feel unclean!</p> <p>Where a bus lane is not in place, however, I'm in two minds as to whether I think there should be a clearway or not - if we allowed rush hour parking the congestion would immediately be so terrible that bikes would be the only sane way to get to work! :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24700 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:01:31 +0000 wingpig 24700@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Adjustments for internet presence and the increase of the War On Motorists mentality aside, was the EEN any less offhandedly incendiary before it shifted to Holyrood, perhaps causing more staff to feel the need to drive in or otherwise complicating their journeys? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24698 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:47:22 +0000 SRD 24698@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>what they don't mention, but which I am pretty sure was talked about at a community council meeting is that many of the cars are parked by parents trying to do school dropoffs.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24697 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:59:35 +0000 chdot 24697@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well at least there is one person who 'understands'. </p> <p>"<br /> As a motorist I object to people parking on Morningside Road and Brunstfield Place during peak hours. It's a main arterial route and should be kept as clear as possible for motorists AND cyclists.</p> <p>Increasing the short stay off-main-road parking would surely be the best solution for everyone?</p> <p>But the thing that gets on my thrupennies the most is the telling of the story. The council stated that the issues were buses, emergency vehicles and also cyclists. </p> <p>Guess which one the EEN picks up on to target? Quite pathetic really.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/Drive-to-hit-cycle-targets.6722366.jp?CommentPage=1&amp;CommentPageLength=1000#6009038" rel="nofollow">http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/Drive-to-hit-cycle-targets.6722366.jp?CommentPage=1&amp;CommentPageLength=1000#6009038</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24696 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:52:07 +0000 Arellcat 24696@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aargh, must...resist...!</p> <p>I still like to read <a href="http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/12445/Don39t-make-me-a-secondclass.4760821.jp">Anth's exposition</a> of being a member of a disliked minority. The scary thing about the EEN anti-bike brigade is that behind the barbed comments are real people, and most of them will be car drivers sharing space with us. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2333#post-24692 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:39:24 +0000 mgj 24692@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The trolls are really scoffing. Chance of riding onthe pavement in Bruntsfield Place is nil; that florist covers most of it. Nothing about the delivery lorries blocking sightlines at the top of Viewforth etc either. Apparently local residents need to drive to these shops; if they <strong>are</strong> local, why the need to drive? </p>