http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Wurr aww dooomed! Doomed (according to Faily Daily) en Sun, 31 May 2026 12:07:03 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25150 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:56:41 +0000 alibali 25150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks Mabs, that's comforting. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25143 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:42:38 +0000 Mabs 25143@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Found this on le Guardian site<br /> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog/2011/feb/25/myth-cycling-heart-attacks" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog/2011/feb/25/myth-cycling-heart-attacks</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25141 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:03:25 +0000 chdot 25141@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"It’s one of those “Well, what do you expect?” type articles that probably serves us right for even looking at the Daily Mail online."</p> <p><a href="http://road.cc/node/31309" rel="nofollow">http://road.cc/node/31309</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25084 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:13:16 +0000 chdot 25084@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Didn't SRD get the PCC to force the daily hate to apologise over the incorrect use of a photo"</p> <p>ABSOLUTELY!!</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1271#post-15812" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1271#post-15812</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25081 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:11:32 +0000 SRD 25081@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ k'NIK :)</p> <p>Story in <a href="http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/daily-mail-removes-misleading-bike-pic-from-website">bikebiz</a></p> <p>and <a href="http://www.pcc.org.uk/case/resolved.html?article=NjcwNA==">from the PCC itself </a></p> <p>It really felt a little pointless and lame by the time it happened but maybe they'll think twice next time. Anyway, it's the principle of the thing! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25080 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:11:00 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 25080@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Incidentally, Melanie Phillips, occasional spouter of hate in the Daily Wail, will be a guest columnist in the next issue of Citycycling.</p> <p>No really, she will. Jeremy Clarkson, who was the last guest columnist, convinced her it was a good thing to do for PR... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25079 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:10:31 +0000 Jackson Priest 25079@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmmm, think I'm far more likely to suffer a heart attack from reading the Daily Mail: "negative emotions (3.9 per cent), anger (3.1 per cent)" than I am from riding a bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25075 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:07:59 +0000 kaputnik 25075@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Didn't SRD get the PCC to force the daily hate to apologise over the incorrect use of a photo in a piece about how toddlers cycling on pavements are going around killing pensioners and taking jobs off of "local people"? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-25031 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:31:17 +0000 onlyalice 25031@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In my experience, the PCC is generally pretty <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/18/jan-moir-stephen-gately-pcc-ruling">rubbish</a> (sort of unsurprisingly since it's an optional self-regulating body funded by the newspapers it's supposed to regulate) and even more so with headlines - although I can't see any reason in the Code of Practice ("The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures") why they wouldn't respond to headlines, I do recall reading that they don't. Have a look at:<br /> <a href="http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/2010/12/08/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/2010/12/08/</a></p> <p>At least the Mail is still covered by the PCC, for what little it's worth - its clone, the Express Group, have opted out and now can print whatever they please. Lovely. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24973 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:54:35 +0000 Smudge 24973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Press complaints commission? Do they deal with basically untrue headlines or does it not count because it's an enterpretation?? (sigh) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24941 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:01:59 +0000 alibali 24941@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've asked Straight Statistics (www.straightstatistics.org) if they might have a look at this; I don't know where to start! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24931 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:17:51 +0000 Dave 24931@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"Cycling has always been touted as being good for health, but now a study has found that it is actually one of the biggest triggers of heart attacks."</em></p> <p>This is where "public understanding of science" comes in, and you can see what a disservice the media provides.</p> <p><strong>The paper specifically doesn't say that you're more likely to have a heart attack if you cycle. </strong></p> <p>It examines <strong>a group of people that we know for certain are going to have a heart attack</strong>, and asks what triggered the arrest.</p> <p>Exercise - oh, that's news.</p> <p>If you look at the effect cycling has on your health, one study found that people who rode to work were 40% less likely to die over the study period.</p> <p>You can draw conclusions from this, but not the same ones the media would like you to make:</p> <p><strong>- taking up cycling is one of the best things you can do for your health</strong><br /> <em>- but, if your health is so bad that you *know* you're going to have a heart attack soon, don't exercise and you may last a bit longer before it happens.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24930 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:16:33 +0000 wingpig 24930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cripes. We'll need another version of that public health warning advert where the bloke (who looked a bit like a cross between Ewen Bremner and Ralf Little) snorted some cocaines, went all chatty and funny but then got SCARY CHEST PAINS. Perhaps they could depict a MAMIL straining to the top of a hill (holding up honest law-abiding motor traffic as he goes) then taking a hand off the handlebars whilst going downhill to clutch at his shuddering chest, losing control, speeding through a red light, onto a pavement and ploughing through a crowd of schoolchildren and pensioners. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24929 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:04:30 +0000 steveo 24929@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just read the highly rated comments, all balanced against the "article" so modded them up to try and keep them there. Didn't read the morons comments. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24927 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:00:06 +0000 onlyalice 24927@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just FYI, here is a useful resource if you want to spread the word about terrible/idiotic/mistaken things that the Faily Mail have written but avoid bumping up their website traffic stats and hence advertising revenue:<br /> <a href="http://istyosty.com/wtf.php" rel="nofollow">http://istyosty.com/wtf.php</a><br /> Just go to <a href="http://istyosty.com/">the home page</a> and put the link in there and fume away with a clear conscience ;) - it comes up a LOT at my office (I work in comms)!</p> <p>Of course, there's always this slightly more drastic solution:<br /> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kitten-block/" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kitten-block/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24921 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:39:59 +0000 wee folding bike 24921@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As far as I can tell the Lancet didn't say that either. The "paper" seems to have conflated some risk factors and assumptions to come up with this story.</p> <p>My auntie sent the link to me but I think she just does it for fun. I'll be replacing her hard drive at the weekend and I'll get to her house by bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2347#post-24918 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:09:13 +0000 Stepdoh 24918@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1360091/Heart-attacks-Cycling-work-biggest-causes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1360091/Heart-attacks-Cycling-work-biggest-causes.html</a></p> <p>Funnily the numbers don't really say that, but never let the truth etc, yawn. Not reading the comments. Okay I will. </p>