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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Dalmeny Estate bike route http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Dalmeny Estate bike route en Sun, 17 May 2026 07:22:06 +0000 cb on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25567 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:33:18 +0000 cb 25567@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Pre Land Reform, Dalmeny was pretty unfriendly on the whole access side of things. Does anyone (chdot?) have a photo of the old sign at Longcraigs listing all the things you couldn't do in or take into the estate (whilst you walked /strictly/ along the coastal route). As I recall the list included: Dogs Cycling Fires Picnics Camping Rucksacks (this one sounds ridiculous, but I'm sure it was on there) Not sure about Cameras, Children, Stopping, Looking At The View; but there's a good chance they were on the list too. Dave on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25527 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 11:59:49 +0000 Dave 25527@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Kaputnik - you should avoid the 'cycling in the Meadows' discussions! kaputnik on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25510 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:18:53 +0000 kaputnik 25510@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The only place in Scotland you can't go under the Outdoor Access legislation is anywhere owned by Ann "gerrofmoiland" Gloag Dave on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25507 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 09:57:28 +0000 Dave 25507@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Conclusion from this morning - it's not surfaced. That makes sense, since I couldn't understand from the map why I hadn't ridden on it. On the ground, the road bears to the left and you can optionally go right onto mud. @Its_Me_Knees - it depends who you speak to. According to City of Edinburgh Council and Friends of the Meadows, there are no access rights to the Dalmeny estate whatsoever. However, CEC's interpretation of the Land Reform Act is quite... distinctive. I think it is safe to assume that it "does what it says on the tin", and you are free to pass, given that nobody in the last nine years has been taken to court for making the same assumption, anywhere in Scotland. Its_Me_Knees on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25487 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:00:02 +0000 Its_Me_Knees 25487@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ What are the access rights on the Dalmeny Estate? I assume route 76 must be available to all, but what about the other paths around the estate? Is 76 and the 'waterfront route' one and the same? If so, does that mean that the official bike route is the one with the iffy surface? Answers on a postcard... Dave on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25433 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:32:37 +0000 Dave 25433@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Ah, I see. I think it is, but I'll be able to tell you tomorrow morning. Always on the lookout for a route refinement! If only they surfaced the track from Newbridge to South Queensferry... I don't fancy the knobblies necessary to make that a practical choice, but it'd be much nicer than the rat run (even though so far everyone has behaved very nicely). PS on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25428 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:28:46 +0000 PS 25428@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Thanks Dave - I know the loop that you did - it's a nice bit of road (although heading north you need to watch out of gravel on the two fast 90 degree corners). It's the bit of road under the number 3 on Dave C's "Dalmeny Estate Ride through" map that I don't know. Is that metalled? Dave on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25423 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:25:02 +0000 Dave 25423@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The whole loop is surfaced <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&geocode=FfQ1VgMdYzbN_w%3BFa82VgMd6FTN_w&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=15&sll=55.980065,-3.325467&sspn=0.01383,0.029826&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=55.984386,-3.3589&panoid=9s98vTqG9EkLEVDoJm8z7g&cbp=12,85.14,,1,5&ll=55.984339,-3.358727&spn=0.013828,0.029826&z=15">just like this</a>. I've ridden out the waterfront way but it's not so useful when you want to ride over the bridge - too slow from the non-surfacing and a giant climb at the end to get up to the toll booths. PS on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25417 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:46:23 +0000 PS 25417@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Dave's route is the one I've always taken (with the exception of the section between Cramond Brig and the dogleg road, starts at the gate next to the estate gatehouse and is initially a farm track which can be pretty rough and muddy, but then becomes a decent tarmac job with a nice steep climb up to the dogleg road). I've never tried (or indeed noticed) that more direct route. Is it a metalled surface? kaputnik on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25416 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:38:31 +0000 kaputnik 25416@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Good route down to the beach for a sausage sizzle then :) Dave on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25415 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:23:09 +0000 Dave 25415@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ PS. You can see the route I rode on the GPS trace: <a href="http://connect.garmin.com/activity/70716490" rel="nofollow">http://connect.garmin.com/activity/70716490</a> Dave on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25414 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:12:53 +0000 Dave 25414@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I almost rode the route linked above but went out to the right at the end (the dog-leg to the east of the giant "3") because that's the way my nose led me. Looks like you can pull it down by a third of a mile or so going direct. The surface is very good - good enough to be comfortable freewheeling down to Dalmeny House at 30mph. It comes to mind that I crossed two cattle grids, although they were pretty mild examples. I'd certainly not hesitate with a 23mm slick. DaveC on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25412 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:04:15 +0000 DaveC 25412@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/28946930/">Dalmeny Estate Ride through</a> chdot on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25395 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:06:17 +0000 chdot 25395@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Sounds good - but not too easy to follow! - "Ignore it and turn left". Perhaps you take a few minutes to do a manual trace on <a href="http://www.mapmyride.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mapmyride.com</a> (or similar). UPDATE Looks like DC has done it! DaveC on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25393 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:04:41 +0000 DaveC 25393@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Is this the route? <a href="http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p86/Dave_Crampton/Dalmeny_route.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p86/Dave_Crampton/Dalmeny_route.jpg</a> Dave C kaputnik on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25392 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:03:59 +0000 kaputnik 25392@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I've only ever ridden on the NCN76 bit of the route - and although it's in a lovely setting it's not practical at speed or on a skinny-wheeled bike. Will be keen to try this section out as couldn't agree more that the A90-side path isn't pleasant. Dave on "Dalmeny Estate bike route" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2391#post-25389 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:52:30 +0000 Dave 25389@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ This morning I rode through the Dalmeny estate on my commute loop, so for reference: It's 2.59 miles between the junction with the bizarre "bike gutter" (near Dalmeny village) to rejoin the slip road onto the A90 at Crammond (the road carrying traffic from Kirkliston). Took me just under 10 minutes, including stopping for a tractor - and I wasn't racing. There were no potholes, just flawless road surface and the couple of estate cars I passed were very happy to see me. In contrast, from a GPS trace when I used to commute to Fife, the A90's 24"-from-oncoming-70mph-HGVs option is 1.55 miles and took 7 minutes. There is more climbing on the estate route because you drop almost to sea level, but clearly the time cost is small - just three minutes. I strongly encourage people going out this way to have a crack at it, it's *way* better than the official path in every imaginable way. Turn off <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Cramond,+Edinburgh,+City+of+Edinburgh+EH4+6,+United+Kingdom&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.113693,27.817383&ie=UTF8&geocode=FaQcVgMdF6jN_w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Cramond,+City+of+Edinburgh,+United+Kingdom&ll=55.971385,-3.327377&spn=0.005295,0.013583&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=55.971416,-3.327075&panoid=OshVNi_k9I3I3htYglwRIQ&cbp=12,111.34,,0,5">just before the bridge at the top of the slip road</a> (the streetcar doesn't go to the second road, but either of them will do as they both join up 10m in). There are a couple of turn-offs to ignore, but follow your nose on the "main" road and you'll eventually get to a junction beside a stream where (bizarrely) there's an NCN sign pointing right. Ignore it and turn left, and you will arrive at Dalmeny house. Bear left to start climbing steadily back up to the <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&geocode=FfQ1VgMdYzbN_w%3BFa82VgMd6FTN_w&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=15&sll=55.980065,-3.325467&sspn=0.01383,0.029826&ie=UTF8&ll=55.984333,-3.358714&spn=0.013828,0.029826&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=55.984333,-3.358714&panoid=72kq_0ffft2xxFcM1fdmZg&cbp=12,60.14,,0,5">junction near Dalmeny</a>, job's a good one.