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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Fairness and liability on the roads http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Fairness and liability on the roads en Sun, 31 May 2026 12:44:34 +0000 SRD on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26556 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:36:46 +0000 SRD 26556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ thanks! fgured k had to be killed, but couldn't get the rest! Kim on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26541 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:46:03 +0000 Kim 26541@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Killed or Seriously Injured, sorry I was quoting verbatim, I should have added a note to explain. SRD on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26538 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:27:48 +0000 SRD 26538@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ ksi? Kim on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26534 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:47:29 +0000 Kim 26534@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ OK, <a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1646">part 3 is out</a>, with a reply from Keith Brown... Kim on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26334 Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:13:36 +0000 Kim 26334@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @wee folding bike: I haven't heard Keith Brown apologising for the current snow yet, should I put in a complaint? @BicycleLegal: Thank you for showing that Strict Liability could actually save the insurance industry money. That is a useful argument to use in favour of Strict Liability. kaputnik on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26308 Wed, 09 Mar 2011 00:55:45 +0000 kaputnik 26308@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ And, there's bridge<strike>s</strike> to be built. wee folding bike on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26292 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:42:43 +0000 wee folding bike 26292@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ We have our own transport minister outwith the UK one. Of course ours spend most of their time causing snow and apologising for it. BicycleLegal on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26287 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:47:19 +0000 BicycleLegal 26287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Strict liability could actually save the insurance industry money, albeit they would pay out on more claims from cyclists than they currently do. Insurers like certainty and dislike third party claims where they have no outlay of their own or no known insurer to counterclaim against. Many cycling claims fall into this category, where there may be little or no damage to the insured vehicle and no known insurer for the cyclist. Anything which reduces the scope for legal argument is likely to simplify the claims process, ultimately saving insurers money in terms of staff time and legal fees. Morningsider on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26213 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:51:02 +0000 Morningsider 26213@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Kim - I applaud your efforts. However, I think your campaign might benefit from contacting the following people, as strict liability is only ever likely to happen with the backing/support of the UK insurance industry and at least one UK Government department. Rt Hon Philip Hammond MP Secretary of State for Transport Department for Transport Great Minster House 76 Marsham Street London SW1P 4DR Otto Thoresen Director General Association of British Insurers 51 Gresham Street London EC2V 7HQ Specifically, ask these people directly whether they would support the introduction of strict liability. Pre-empt their claims that this would need to be looked into by asking them to establish a group to investigate this as a matter of urgency and point them in the direction of any useful reports you may have. Obviously, the replies will be from a flunkey - but contacting them by letter means your reply will probably also be a letter which in my experience means it will have worked its way far higher up the food chain than a simple email and (who knows) may even cross someone important's desk for a signature. Difficult to see the benefits for a politician of introducing this (Daily Hell "Cycling asylum seeker crashes into BMW then wins £1m in compensation"), but if it meant more profit for insurers then it might just be a goer. SRD on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26208 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:23:52 +0000 SRD 26208@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ that's actually a pretty thoughtful and positive reply from your MP. not what you wanted, but as such things go, quite considered and sensible. Kim on "Fairness and liability on the roads" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2470#post-26206 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:10:22 +0000 Kim 26206@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Do you think we will ever get fairness in liability on the roads? I am in favour of the UK having a law of strict liability on the roads, so thought I should try and do something about it (<a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1638">here</a> and <a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1639">here</a>). Do you think there is any hope of success?