http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Are environmentalists bad for the planet?" en Tue, 23 Jun 2026 08:09:31 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1888 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:14:58 +0000 Kim 1888@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>For anyone who missed the programme there is a <a href="http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/analysis/analysis_20100125-2102a.mp3">podcast here</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1887 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:16:26 +0000 SRD 1887@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>PS actually Naidoo probably a good example of what Kim describes above. maybe better if we don't go down this line of conversation :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1886 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:13:37 +0000 SRD 1886@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don't get me started on Greenpeace. Interestingly, their new director (Kumi Naidoo) was also a student with my phd supervisor and our paths crossed occasionally; have contemplated emailing him. I think there is some hope that under his direction they may take more sensible lines - i.e. thinking of the human cost of their campaigns. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1885 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:12:49 +0000 Kim 1885@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a problem with so called "environmentalists". When the cold war ended there were many people on the Left who lost the main stay of their political ideology so they look around for away of carrying on the fight against the running dog Capitalism on the Right. </p> <p>Many of these people turned to the "environmental movement" as the new battle field, hijacking organised campaign groups such Greenpeace. Inconvenient things like collecting scientific evidence were then dumped or twisted to suit the message the campaign, irrespective of where it was good for the "environment". </p> <p>In recent years, having undermined the term "environmental" they have started using the term "ecological". This is very annoying to those to those who have spent years of hard thinking and study to understand the <em>science</em> of ecology.</p> <p>End of rant. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1882 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:14:31 +0000 cb 1882@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Re: Inventor in cleaner engine claim</p> <p>I read that story this morning and was suitably impressed. I read how the technology used is called homogenous charge compression injection, so I looked that up on Wikipedia and now I'm not very impressed anymore.<br /> I.e. doesn't sound like this guy has done anything new. Perhaps he has overcome some of the disadvantages of this type of engine, hard to tell from the beeb story. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1881 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:13:07 +0000 chdot 1881@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Unfortunately is doesn't solve the problem of congestion in our towns and cities."</p> <p>Quite</p> <p>That's one of the problems with believing 'there's a technical solution for that'. </p> <p>- what question is it the answer to...? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1880 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:08:22 +0000 Kim 1880@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Unfortunately is doesn't solve the problem of congestion in our towns and cities. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1878 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:09:32 +0000 chdot 1878@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Inventor in cleaner engine claim</p> <p>The engine could be fitted in cars as early as 2013, the inventor says<br /> A Dundee inventor has designed an engine which he says would make cars cleaner, more efficient - and possibly cheaper to make."</p> <p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8475356.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8475356.stm</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1871 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:16:51 +0000 Kim 1871@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=248#post-1870 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:03:05 +0000 chdot 1870@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Radio 4 8.30</p> <p>"'Ethical man' Justin Rowlatt asks if it is time the green movement ditched some of its ideological excess baggage. Although apparently united in their goal to tackle climate change, some environmentalists attach other dogmas to the cause - from a preference for the natural over the hi-tech to a hatred of consumption, capitalism and urbanisation. Could these extraneous aspects of green politics be undermining the environmental cause?"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00q3cnl" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00q3cnl</a> </p>