http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Hope headset setup problem - help needed please en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:45:47 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27186 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:36:07 +0000 Smudge 27186@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5540684317_108c345fd8_m.jpg">Sorted!! :-D<br /> Still don't know what wasn't quite seating, but I took it apart again, restored the bearing to its original orientation, re-checked everything then reassembled everything loosely before holding the front brake on and wiggling* the forks vigorously whilst tightening the top bolt... hey presto, it popped into place and now turns freely with no play just as it should :-)<br /> My Surly is now built B-) hurrah!</p> <p>* 's a technical term dontcha know ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27180 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:48:34 +0000 Smudge 27180@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah it's a strange one! I'll have another look (now the decorating is finished lol)and if I get no joy I'll maybe drop by after work on Monday, unless you fancy a PY first thing ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27163 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:34:13 +0000 thebikechain 27163@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hey Gordon</p> <p>Sorry to hear this aint working right.</p> <p>That seal should be flush and there should be NO bedding required.</p> <p>Can you swing it in?</p> <p>Odd - they normally fit bang on!</p> <p>MD </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27156 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:23:06 +0000 Smudge 27156@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Play is on the top bearing, tried inverting the bearing as the (not that clear) line drawing appears to show it that way, no difference. Having slept/thought about it the only reason I can think of is that the bearing is not seating fully home. Will investigate later (compulsory decorating going on this morning!!).<br /> Temped to build and run to see if it beds in itself (play is minimal, but on a headset of that quality I expect nil lol) then adjust as it settles.<br /> Really though I think back into the workshop tonight/tomorrow and do it properly(!)</p> <p>ps. not at the mallet stage quite yet ;-)) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27155 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:42:07 +0000 chdot 27155@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>DIY</p> <p>Remover</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mababo/2844071891" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mababo/2844071891</a></p> <p>Press</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?q=Headset&amp;w=861846%40N24&amp;m=pool" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?q=Headset&amp;w=861846%40N24&amp;m=pool</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27154 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 09:56:01 +0000 wingpig 27154@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are four different illustrations involving thwacking various bits of headset or fork with a hammer or a mallet to release something...<br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wingpig/5538944861/"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5136/5538944861_4ed9ed0b3f.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27153 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 09:41:21 +0000 kaputnik 27153@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah I think that's the threaded headset, to release the expansion bolt :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27150 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:34:08 +0000 ruggtomcat 27150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I spotted an excellent illustration in that book you gave to winpig (the chick at TBW was reading it) of something being struck with a mallet :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27144 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:45:01 +0000 kaputnik 27144@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>have you hit it with a mallet yet? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27140 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:46:24 +0000 druidh 27140@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's really not that much to them...<br /> <img src="http://www.hopegb.com/photos/hes2G.jpg"></p> <p>Does it all fit together without part #5 in place? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27138 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:54:23 +0000 Smudge 27138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Top bearing and tapered ring <em>appear</em> to be properly seated, no shims in at the moment.</p> <p>Hard to tell where the play is coming from, I'm going to go and have another look/stripdown and see (hopefully). Top bearing appears to be a nice snug fit and the tapered ring is a sliding fit on the steerer tube.</p> <p>Tapered ring is def the right way up :) ("idiot" questions are <em>always</em> worth asking at times like these :-))</p> <p>Will have another look... :-/ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27132 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:47:16 +0000 Arellcat 27132@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mm Raven may not be taking calls at the moment, but I wonder if the top bearing and/or the tapered ring aren't seated properly in the cup. How many shims do you have in place at the moment?</p> <p>Also, at what point does the play appear? For example, does the top bearing sit snug in the cup? Is the tapered ring a sliding fit on the steerer tube as you install it?</p> <p>Idiot question: is the tapered ring installed the right way up? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27130 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:13:06 +0000 kaputnik 27130@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.citycycling.co.uk/Issue2/Raven1.html">other corvids may be available</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27129 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:54:01 +0000 Smudge 27129@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>? Does she use this type? Or just an expert in all things mechanical....?<br /> Actually not sure I can wait for the next CCE ;-) I am hoping to use it on Monday! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27125 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:05:09 +0000 ruggtomcat 27125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>*keeps an eye out for Madam Raven* </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2550#post-27122 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:57:51 +0000 Smudge 27122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well the good news is my Surly LHT is together, looks good and works... except for the headset which is giving me a problem :-(<br /> The bottom looks ok, but the seal on the top looks too high,</p> <p><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5537775812_bc4d4153b1_m.jpg"></p> <p>Now the instructions talk about adding shims under the seal if it is too low and dragging, but I have the opposite problem, and in addition there is a little play in the headset, if I tighten the cap to reduce this the steering becomes draggy and it feels like I'm overtightening (so I didn't!)<br /> Anyone got advice? (Bikechain?) </p>