http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Guardian reader offers - Dutch bikes en Sun, 19 Apr 2026 16:59:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28596 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:46:16 +0000 DaveC 28596@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Anth at Work,<br /> How refreshing, if it were the UK though you'd be arrested for taking pictures of children! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28594 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:32:19 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 28594@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.citycycling.co.uk/Issue2/Anthsterdam1.html">My recent views of cycling in Amsterdam</a>.</p> <p>I will stop just posting links to stuff I've written. Honest... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28593 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:26:35 +0000 DaveC 28593@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes I seam to recall 'Give Ways' operating opposite to ours, where cycles joining the road from the right have right of way.</p> <p>Please don't try this here folks!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28590 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:54:22 +0000 Min 28590@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"There were a few flinching times when I first arrived and saw cyclist exiting T junctions without a glance. The traffic accepted this and slowed down where roads joined from the right, half expecting a suicidle cyclist to cut out in front of them."</p> <p>Is that not the rule though? That you give way to traffic exiting from junctions? Seems a bit odd but I guess it is what you are used to.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28579 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:10:07 +0000 DaveC 28579@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hey Guys &amp; Gals!</p> <p>I've lived in The Nederlands, and it isn't quite how you've all painted it to be.<br /> In the summer its vastly hotter than here but I didn't see any people cycling 'zonder' clothing, and their fashion was decidedly dodgy. In the winter its bally baltic and no one would want to have their skin exposed! They all wore normal (non cycling spec) clothing and no one seamed in a hurry. I can see the appeal of riding 'zonder' clothing as one would be more acutly aware of any excess body tissues and would naturally want to look 'sporty and honed'.</p> <p>There were a few flinching times when I first arrived and saw cyclist exiting T junctions without a glance. The traffic accepted this and slowed down where roads joined from the right, half expecting a suicidle cyclist to cut out in front of them.</p> <p>I was impressed at public buildings (train station and the like) where vast space was taken up by Sheffield type stands, as opposed to Scotland where bike parking is an add on which is not very convenient. Their dutch bikes have locks built into them (where the rear wheels brakes are attached, but there was no way of locking them to something immovable, so it doesn't negate the necessity to carry a sturdy D-Lock or chain. This means that bike theft is somewhat high.</p> <p>Other than that you can buy real dutch bikes, I found some for sale when I originally looked into the Cycle to Work Scheme when I lived in Cambridge.</p> <p>Vriendelijke groeten,</p> <p>Dave C </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28532 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:25:35 +0000 strangemeetings 28532@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not convinced by the bikes :/.</p> <p>However, the vision of Holland as some sort of paradise where inoffensively pretty blonde women cycle in awkward nakedness into Ikea bookshelves is a rather attractive one. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28521 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 20:31:11 +0000 LaidBack 28521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The blurb is a comedy act... except of course if you're on a low wage making the stuff.... </p> <p>Do they check environmental standard at factory. Guardian wouldn't want to support anything polluting?</p> <p>This is the result of hyper-consumerism where everyone has to own everything but nothing must cost more than £150. </p> <p><ul><blockquote><strong>Who are we?</strong></p> <p>We are idealists. Children of the revolution. <em>(Come on guys... in your dreams!)<br /> </em><br /> A small team committed to fighting the big guys with the made.com vision. Obsessive about design and passionate about customers, we want to offer handpicked pieces with strict quality control guidelines. We search all four corners of the earth to source the best, specialist furniture makes - often those who make furniture for designer brands.<br /> <em>Sadly we always end up in the same corner of the world as the 'evil' businesses we're fighting against.</em><br /> </blockquote></ul></p> <p>All retailers are part of the problem... I'd like more of my manufacturing to come from Europe at least. Even better if it was local.</p> <p>In the end this low price offer just means that companies like Pashley lose more sales and slants the bike market towards Primark-land. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28505 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:26:49 +0000 Kim 28505@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Uugg, cheap nasty Chinese copy of a bicycle, the nearest it has ever been to the Netherlands was on a container ship in the channel...</p> <p>The Guardian should know better that to try and rip people off! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28492 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:30:20 +0000 kaputnik 28492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>and she ain't going far with the kickstand still down... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28490 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:22:43 +0000 steveo 28490@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Besides that her foot position on the pedal is terrible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28485 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:57:42 +0000 amir 28485@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You can use a tastefully positioned carrier bag. Or buy the cross bar version.</p> <p>Is this what Holland is like? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28484 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:52:34 +0000 Arellcat 28484@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Min's right. That's a bit peculiar! Maybe you can only ride them on the WNBR. One for Photoshop Disasters perhaps? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28482 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:45:05 +0000 Min 28482@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But why do you need to ride them naked? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28478 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:12:04 +0000 kaputnik 28478@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The gents model is 17kg, has no gears and is described as "sporty".</p> <p>I mean they are elegant bikes, practical even (weight and gearing aside), but not sporty! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28477 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:08:38 +0000 SRD 28477@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>thanks for fixing my link! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28476 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:59:23 +0000 Dave 28476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://guardian.made.com/collection/hollander-collection" rel="nofollow">http://guardian.made.com/collection/hollander-collection</a></p> <p>I wonder whether they'd be any good... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2678#post-28475 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:33:47 +0000 SRD 28475@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://guardian.made.com/collection/hollander-collection">Details here</a> </p>