http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Cwoffe Morning? en Thu, 21 May 2026 09:08:19 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29389 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:21:57 +0000 ruggtomcat 29389@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A brooks is cheaper tho :P </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29388 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:20:11 +0000 ruggtomcat 29388@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>:D </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29387 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:10:48 +0000 Dave 29387@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What's saddle pain?</p> <p>Next you'll be telling me you get sore wrists or stiff arms / shoulders...</p> <p>;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29386 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:13:17 +0000 steveo 29386@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>some sort of octopus!</em><br /> Probably some sort of economist. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29382 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:45:58 +0000 kaputnik 29382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>On the other hand they are a bit crazy and pain intolerant. </em></p> <p>heh. yes. and on the other hand (some sort of octopus!) a lot of them seem to have rather "unique" statures. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29375 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:29:17 +0000 amir 29375@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>By the way, you shouldn't necessarily listen to hardened audaxers about saddles. On the one hand they get to try out saddles to the extreme. On the other hand they are a bit crazy and pain intolerant. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29374 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:26:22 +0000 amir 29374@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The ideal saddle is one that fits your backside. Brooks provide one way forward on this - presumably as long as your dimensions are not too far out from its. I did have a B17 in my teens when it was used extensively for touring. Although it was fine, it wasn't entirely painless on long rides even when broken in. At times I was sure that it was changing my shape rather than vice versa.</p> <p>The other way forward is to find a saddle that fits you. This is described in Cycling Plus this month (no commission, honest). A good lbs will let you try a saddle, either by you buying it then using it with tape to protect the rails (so that it comes back in a saleable condition), or by having some available for trial (much better).</p> <p>For what its worth I have a Spesh Toupe. This can be bought in 2 or 3 widths. It works very well for me but does hurt a bit more on long rides early in the season (like all saddles). It's much more comfortable than the Van Nicholas saddle that I got with the new bike that doesn't have a cutaway. I have a Charge Spoon on the flat bar commuter that is pretty comfortable but also quite cheap. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29370 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:04:58 +0000 Smudge 29370@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you're a similar size to any of the Brooks users try blagging a ride round the block on a suitably equipped steed? Wont be as good as one worn in to suit you but should give a much better idea than any amount of chat?<br /> (If you're short enough you can have a go on mine!)</p> <p>@ Dave, I can prove I'm not bluffing ;-) I bought a second one! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29360 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:17:12 +0000 DaveC 29360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh My god, I saw these in The Bike Chain last week. I knocked on one as one does on a door, as they were hanging in the shop. They do feel rather hard and I wonder about them. That said everyone I know says they are great (but seeing the cost of them, if I forked out that much for one I'd be swearing they were great too, for fear of being seen as a burk for paying that much for something which I didn't like) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740&page=2#post-29359 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:10:29 +0000 kaputnik 29359@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've got the B17 for the tourer and it was great from the off.</p> <p>It's not the slimmest, so I got a B17 Narrow for the audax bike. As it's narrower it's a bit stiffer and took a bit more breaking in, but it's also exceptionally comfortable. </p> <p>The B17s are not "padded" by any stretch of the imagination, they do still give you a stiff platform from which to pedal, but as they mould to the shape of your derriere, the padding in your shorts can provide a bit of softness where you need it most and the saddle does the rest. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29356 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:36:27 +0000 Smudge 29356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tricky... I know at least one person who didn't get on with them. Many long haul people advocate the "Flyer" but it must be said it's very heavy, the B-17 has the same shape of leather (I believe the original shape) but no springs and it's only a bit heavy(!)<br /> I imagine many (most?) people would say even it is a bit bulky for a road bike so at least aesthetically one of their slimmer models might be better for that application.<br /> I feel they have a bit more flex than the modern saddles I've tried and this takes the edge of many thumps and bumps, and they are not as sweaty as plastic/vinyl when(if) it's warm, they also deform a bit to suit the individuals sit bones etc, my flyer is now (after a thousand and a bit miles) comfier than when new, I found it a bit hard for the first week or so then it seemed to soften up. Only notice it now when I hit a big hole and the springs save my back/bum! I sometimes don't bother with padded shorts/longs on it and it's fine :-)</p> <p>I certainly haven't got the budget/nerve to pay the price for their titanium railed models though! :-o</p> <p>The other types I haven't tried, but I'm sure some others may be able to make constructive comment, so I'll stop rambling now... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29353 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:13:18 +0000 wingpig 29353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My 'modern' saddle, though extremely comfortable, has recently developed (or has developed, which I've only recently noticed) an uncorrectable lean to one side. I'm intrigued by the number of people advocating Brookses but they're not cheap so not likely to be bought lightly so how can you tell which (from the wide range) is likely to suit (apart from obvious things like riding position/leg angle or preference for springs)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29352 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:01:52 +0000 Smudge 29352@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Dave - "Brooks Flyer", ;-)</p> <p>I had a "modern" saddle during the tour of East Lothian and regretted it, my roadbike now has a B17 (saddle not aircraft!) bolted to it and I hardly ever notice it while riding :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29349 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:35:38 +0000 steveo 29349@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Smudge nah i'm only a couple of hundred metres from the top of Lothian road where i realised my pressure had gone. Biggest problem is going to be repairing the tube in the dark garage. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29348 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:16:11 +0000 Min 29348@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"the saddle is obvioulsy not meant to be sat on"</p> <p>A fundamental flaw if ever there was one.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29347 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:12:17 +0000 DaveC 29347@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@MIN, both, the saddle is obvioulsy not meant to be sat on, and its a hard slog on a longer ride out. But then on my Tourers softer gell seat on the Tour of east Lothian got very uncomfortable on the latter stages of the ride. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29346 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:04:11 +0000 Min 29346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Metaphorically or literally? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29343 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:00:26 +0000 DaveC 29343@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nice to see you all again. Perhaps I'll see a few folk tomorrow at the cycle show. Not sure how long we'll be there for. We're taking our two buys who will get bored after an hour I expect.</p> <p>I only eveer commute on my Tourer, the MTB is a PITA over 8 miles. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29339 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:25:06 +0000 amir 29339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes - good to see you all. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29338 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:19:31 +0000 Smudge 29338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good crowd, although we were a little subdued this morning, thanks, Kaputnik for the shims B-) and why is it that the one time I don't bring a tourer everyone else seems to ?!? :-))<br /> @Steveo, bad luck, hope the p****** didn't delay you too much :-/ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29335 Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:55:09 +0000 steveo 29335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bah got a puncutre on the path that runs round the out side of the Meadows. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29325 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:38:41 +0000 kaputnik 29325@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's OK. We promise not to talk about you both. Too much... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29324 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:30:54 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 29324@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm unlikely to be there now I'm afraid. Continuing pass problems at work mean I have to get a temp pass every morning, which involves them phoning one of my colleagues to confirm I work there, which basically means taking the bike is a MASSIVE hassle, and would have me at my desk at 9.30 at the earliest - not the best impression for a first week. So I'm bussing still. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29321 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:53:54 +0000 Arellcat 29321@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Make sure your note-to-self also includes <em>which</em> bike, since you have so many to choose from now. :-)</p> <p>PS Sorry but a PY no-show from me. I'm too busy coughing up my lungs two or three times every minute, and'll need all my energy to cycle from GLQ to the SECC on Saturday. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29318 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:34:13 +0000 kaputnik 29318@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>shims located. shims on bike seat so as not to forget. will leave a note to myself to remember bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29241 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:25:02 +0000 kaputnik 29241@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>if you could bring the shim things</em></p> <p>I'll email myself so as not to forget.</p> <p>Black americano! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29229 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:46:55 +0000 Smudge 29229@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Rats, I'll miss the bacon rolls :-(<br /> Will try to be there around 0730ish ish, Kaputnik, if you could bring the shim things I'll get the brews in ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29198 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:53:02 +0000 DaveC 29198@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Carrages and Bacon rolls at 08.05.</p> <p>Is that formal enough? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29192 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:09:33 +0000 kaputnik 29192@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It means people will be arriving from any point after 730 I think! I'll be towards the 730 timing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2740#post-29191 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:02:10 +0000 amir 29191@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I may make this - what does "7.30 for 8.00" mean? Sounds a bit formal. </p>